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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:18:18 GMT -5
Brad's Battle of the Sexes 2 performance was very good but he never performed that well again on any of the other challenges in his career. Brad has very poor leadership abilities as shown on Cutthroat when most of his team hated him and on the Ruins when he didn't get rid of Casey when he had the chance. Brad is not as strong as Darrell and can't jump as high or run as fast. I've shown how Abram and Darrell are similar competitors so if Brad can't beat Abe he probably can't beat Darrell. Brad has never displayed that great skill, he's a top 10-15 competitor and that's about itAs for Jamie i never saw the extreme challenge so i can't comment on that but of The Gauntlet 2 he was good but nothing special and on Battle of the Sexes he performed well but only came in third because of the point system with partners(I think I'll have to look that up) Brad has better individual mission stats than Darrell from Battle of the Sexes 2, the Inferno 2 (which he outperformed Darrell), the Duel and the Duel 2. Not to mention Brad defeated Landon fair and square in an elimination round. You have no strong reason to rank Darrell over Brad other than the fact that Darrell is physically stronger. Brad was more rounded and generally more competitive than Darrell (who tend to slack a lot in missions). As for Jamie, won the Stairway to Heaven mission and outperformed Mark overall and performed on par with Colin and Antoine in the individual missions on Battle of the Sexes. So you yet again show your poor analysis of challenges. Also, the Gauntlet 2 featured missions that were too team oriented, that's why Jamie didn't stand out, not to mention Alton and Landon were running the show together as far as leadership in missions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:22:57 GMT -5
He was definitely at his best for Rivals and Exes, the point is he didn't cramp up or gas out and that's what makes final eliminations so hard. He didn't get lucky that CT gassed out and Wes cramped up he was physically better suited and more prepared for the finalThat's baloney. CT was easily more physically fit than Johnny but got too carried away in the final and didn't pace himself and gassed out. As for Wes, he can't help it if his leg cramped up, it can happen to anyone! Like Kina's leg cramping up in her elimination round against Svetlana on the Duel.
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Post by KOB on Jun 2, 2013 21:39:34 GMT -5
way to go superboy!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 2:46:18 GMT -5
Top 20 13. Antoine 14. Christian15. Eric N 16. Adam L 17. Darrell 18. Timmy 19. Johnny 20. WesChristian was definitely better than Antoine. And COME ON Expert! Johnny is NOT better than Wes! You're right in that Christian was better than Antoine, but I'll stick to my opinion in Johnny being better than Wes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2013 3:01:07 GMT -5
You're right in that Christian was better than Antoine, but I'll stick to my opinion in Johnny being better than Wes. I just don't get it........Wes is flat out the better competitor it's not even really a close comparison. Hopefully this will be exposed fully on Rivals 2.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 3, 2013 22:08:14 GMT -5
You're right in that Christian was better than Antoine, but I'll stick to my opinion in Johnny being better than Wes. I just don't get it........Wes is flat out the better competitor it's not even really a close comparison. Hopefully this will be exposed fully on Rivals 2.You don't give johnny credit for partner competitions, so you cant give wes credit for partner competitions. Especially when CT is his partner.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 4:23:50 GMT -5
You don't give johnny credit for partner competitions, so you cant give wes credit for partner competitions. Especially when CT is his partner. I do give Johnny credit, but not as much because its PAIR work (obviously). Wes can still perform better than Johnny even if its a pair challenge. Heck, he looked better than Johnny on Rivals, and if it wasn't for his leg cramping up, him and Kenny would of won.
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Post by jsmith33317 on Jun 4, 2013 9:38:43 GMT -5
In the beginning of episode 11 of the gauntlet Adam clearly says "Theo and I and Dave have naturally risen to the top" the three of them decide on that walk to vote off the girls. Dave was not vocal but still a leader nonetheless I knew you would site that! And that's a weak defense! Dave was not a leader! A leader is a competitor who gives orders and strategies in missions and is established as the leader, which Adam was on the Gauntlet for Road Rules. He wasn't as much of a leader as Adam or Theo but he was still a leader, Adam even said so
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 9:48:26 GMT -5
He wasn't as much of a leader as Adam or Theo but he was still a leader, Adam even said so Dude, Dave was not a leader of the team. When did Adam call Dave a "leader"?
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Post by jsmith33317 on Jun 4, 2013 9:56:00 GMT -5
Brad's Battle of the Sexes 2 performance was very good but he never performed that well again on any of the other challenges in his career. Brad has very poor leadership abilities as shown on Cutthroat when most of his team hated him and on the Ruins when he didn't get rid of Casey when he had the chance. Brad is not as strong as Darrell and can't jump as high or run as fast. I've shown how Abram and Darrell are similar competitors so if Brad can't beat Abe he probably can't beat Darrell. Brad has never displayed that great skill, he's a top 10-15 competitor and that's about itAs for Jamie i never saw the extreme challenge so i can't comment on that but of The Gauntlet 2 he was good but nothing special and on Battle of the Sexes he performed well but only came in third because of the point system with partners(I think I'll have to look that up) Brad has better individual mission stats than Darrell from Battle of the Sexes 2, the Inferno 2 (which he outperformed Darrell), the Duel and the Duel 2. Not to mention Brad defeated Landon fair and square in an elimination round. You have no strong reason to rank Darrell over Brad other than the fact that Darrell is physically stronger. Brad was more rounded and generally more competitive than Darrell (who tend to slack a lot in missions). As for Jamie, won the Stairway to Heaven mission and outperformed Mark overall and performed on par with Colin and Antoine in the individual missions on Battle of the Sexes. So you yet again show your poor analysis of challenges. Also, the Gauntlet 2 featured missions that were too team oriented, that's why Jamie didn't stand out, not to mention Alton and Landon were running the show together as far as leadership in missions. Brad wasn't that great on the Duel he won 1 mission and defeated big easy in an elimination and on the Duel 2 he didn't win a single challenge and his only highlight was beating Landon in an elimination. The Duel format plays to politics alot which is why Brad had so much success in the Duels. His Battle of the Sexes 2 performance was really good but he was never able to repeat that kind of performance and it was a bit of a fluke. Even though he outperformed Darrell, Brad was still unimpressive on the Inferno 2 Jamie has outperformed Mark several times but Darrell has outperformed CT several times. Jamie really benefited from the partner half of the point system on Battle of the Sexes 1 which didn't have that great a cast.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 10:16:40 GMT -5
Brad wasn't that great on the Duel he won 1 mission and defeated big easy in an elimination and on the Duel 2 he didn't win a single challenge and his only highlight was beating Landon in an elimination. The Duel format plays to politics alot which is why Brad had so much success in the Duels. His Battle of the Sexes 2 performance was really good but he was never able to repeat that kind of performance and it was a bit of a fluke. Even though he outperformed Darrell, Brad was still unimpressive on the Inferno 2 Jamie has outperformed Mark several times but Darrell has outperformed CT several times. Jamie really benefited from the partner half of the point system on Battle of the Sexes 1 which didn't have that great a cast. Brad also finished second to Derrick in the Push Over mission and performed good overall on the challenge. Darrell doesn't have a great challenge performance either so you have no point. And Brad wasn't into the politics of the Duel challenges, that's a false accusation! And to say Brad didn't repeat his Battle of the Sexes 2 performance and saying it was a fluke is baloney! Brad's the Duel and the Duel 2 performance are just as solid. The thing is, Battle of the Sexes 2 had a vote off system so your performance meant that much more. Lastly, Brad wasn't impressive on the Inferno 2, but he STILL outperformed Darrell who slacked in the missions. That was the problem with Darrell, he had a tendency to disappoint in missions during his earlier challenges. Brad was the more consistent competitor and has stronger mission stats. You are just stating things that just isn't true and no logic behind it. Jamie just didn't benefit from the pair missions, and he solid in the individual missions as well. And Battle of the Sexes had Mark, Colin, Antoine, James, Eric Nies and Shane, all of whom, are top 20 material all time. So you can't say it lacked competition. Lastly, Darrell outperformed CT in some missions on the Inferno, but CT still outperformed Darrell overall (while Jamie outperformed Mark overall on Battle of the Sexes in the individual missions). Also, Brad outperformed CT in the Zip Up mission on the Inferno 2, so outperforming CT in a mission is not an impossible thing.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 4, 2013 20:02:36 GMT -5
You don't give johnny credit for partner competitions, so you cant give wes credit for partner competitions. Especially when CT is his partner. I do give Johnny credit, but not as much because its PAIR work (obviously). Wes can still perform better than Johnny even if its a pair challenge. Heck, he looked better than Johnny on Rivals, and if it wasn't for his leg cramping up, him and Kenny would of won.You mean if production didn't screw them over! But we'll see. I guess we really haven't seen wes perform because of his reputation. He doesn't have the luxury that Johnny has on the challenges which is not getting thrown in. Ct/wes and johnny/frank are probably teaming up so ideally wes should stay until the finals because he doesn't work out for the Challenges.
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Post by townie on Jun 4, 2013 21:48:06 GMT -5
3 or 4 times over the course of two challenges constitutes "several" times? CT was the top male performer in 75% of the challenges on Inferno 1 & 2 accumulatively.
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Post by townie on Jun 4, 2013 21:57:31 GMT -5
Johnny doesn't have a "peak", he was quite good on the Inferno 3. Johnny has just been very lucky with his final mission wins on Rivals and Exes. He was definitely at his best for Rivals and Exes, the point is he didn't cramp up or gas out and that's what makes final eliminations so hard. He didn't get lucky that CT gassed out and Wes cramped up he was physically better suited and more prepared for the final Johnny's victories over Wes on Rivals 1 and CT on Battle of the Exes were complete flukes. Put the three of them against each other in an all out 15 mile race where people aren't given the chance to catch up and where huge leads aren't negated and he would finish in a distant third to both.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 21:57:39 GMT -5
3 or 4 times over the course of two challenges constitutes "several" times? CT was the top male performer in 75% of the challenges on Inferno 1 & 2 accumulatively. Yeah, you're right. That is the sole reason he's #1 in my opinion. Aren't you from Vevmo?
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Post by townie on Jun 4, 2013 22:00:41 GMT -5
3 or 4 times over the course of two challenges constitutes "several" times? CT was the top male performer in 75% of the challenges on Inferno 1 & 2 accumulatively. Yeah, you're right. That is the sole reason he's #1 in my opinion. Aren't you from Vevmo? Yes. Had a bit of a falling out over there because I was the first to break the news in their spoiler thread as to the top three placings for the men on Rivals 2. I had my post deleted & then their mods posted the same results a couple days later and took 100% of the credit for it, as if they were the ones to break the story.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 4, 2013 22:26:04 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right. That is the sole reason he's #1 in my opinion. Aren't you from Vevmo? Yes. Had a bit of a falling out over there because I was the first to break the news in their spoiler thread as to the top three placings for the men on Rivals 2. I had my post deleted & then their mods posted the same results a couple days later and took 100% of the credit for it, as if they were the ones to break the story. I agree man CT is number one on my list even though I never thoroughly made a list. Vevmo would be alright if the mods weren't pretentious a********. That includes V1man.
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Post by townie on Jun 4, 2013 22:32:24 GMT -5
I personally wish Chris didn't get kicked off Duel 2 because that entire season would've played out much, much differently than it did. I can almost guarantee that Mark and Evan would not have seen the final challenge. I personally think he & Landon are the two best athletes that have ever been on the shows & it would've been cool to see them compete against each other throughout the season & then in the final.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 4, 2013 22:37:43 GMT -5
If I were CT, I would try and take Evan and Mark in the final because that's easy money. Landon? I wouldn't take my chances in a final. I would even go as far as sacrificing myself to go and take out Landon in an elimination round.
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Post by Darebear55 on Jun 4, 2013 22:38:46 GMT -5
I personally wish Chris didn't get kicked off Duel 2 because that entire season would've played out much, much differently than it did. I can almost guarantee that Mark and Evan would not have seen the final challenge. I personally think he & Landon are the two best athletes that have ever been on the shows & it would've been cool to see them compete against each other throughout the season & then in the final. I agree that I don't think Evan would have made it to the finals... It would have been like the Duel where he made it far but not far enough. But I think Mark would have made it regardless. People respected him too much to call him out
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