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Post by briqsquad on Nov 15, 2018 22:47:00 GMT -5
Criteria: Strength, athleticism, Skill, Mental, Endurance, Stamina, and Finals ( which is basically endurance, stamina and mental combined). Top 10 1. CT 2. Landon 3. Theo V. 4. Dan S. 5. Mark Long 6. Evan 7. Derrick K 8. The Miz 9. Abram 10. Brad Dewie890 sticky this on front page. Brad is out of the top 10. He came back for two seasons and did a very good job nothing spectacular, but “very good nothing spectacular” has always been Brad’s M.O. And very good doesn’t get a top 10 spot from me. To be a top 10 challenge competitor all time, you have to be great. I would argue that Jordan has the right to that 10th spot, for taking over the modern era to some extent in his competitive performances. Not a single competitor has taken the reigns this last full era the way he has in terms of mission, elimination, and final performances. nah all jordan do was do well in a final. I dont think he was even top 3 in missions on XXX
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Post by pepper on Nov 16, 2018 17:47:54 GMT -5
Brad is out of the top 10. He came back for two seasons and did a very good job nothing spectacular, but “very good nothing spectacular” has always been Brad’s M.O. And very good doesn’t get a top 10 spot from me. To be a top 10 challenge competitor all time, you have to be great. I would argue that Jordan has the right to that 10th spot, for taking over the modern era to some extent in his competitive performances. Not a single competitor has taken the reigns this last full era the way he has in terms of mission, elimination, and final performances. nah all jordan do was do well in a final. I dont think he was even top 3 in missions on XXX These are generalities and there is no specifics to this argument you’re making, because you can’t make a specific argument pointing out that Jordan is indeed not a high caliber mission competitor and elimination competitor. Jordan has done extremely well in missions throughout his career, he only had that one slump on Free Agents where he was underperforming. On Exes 2, he was arguably the best mission performer alongside Wes. He even matched Wes in swimming in the two missions revolving around swimming that same. On XXX, he was definitely a top 3 performer in missions alongside CT and Hunter (it was between him and Derrick for that third best mission performer spot). All the missions where he had to showcase individual abilities, such as The Purge, Saved By Bell, and X Marks The Spot, he was either the best performer or top performer. So this whole argument that Jordan isn’t a high caliber mission performer is quite outrageous. He suffers from the fact that new school missions rarely ever showcase individual abilities, as opposed to old school missions. He’s also 6-1 in eliminations, in which he’s showcased a variety of skills, such as his quickness in Last Chance, elim against Swift, ability to swing a hammer more efficiently than Zach and being able to wrestle blindfolded and collect patches off his opponent despite being handicapped with one less hand.
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Post by briqsquad on Nov 16, 2018 19:01:25 GMT -5
nah all jordan do was do well in a final. I dont think he was even top 3 in missions on XXX These are generalities and there is no specifics to this argument you’re making, because you can’t make a specific argument pointing out that Jordan is indeed not a high caliber mission competitor and elimination competitor. Jordan has done extremely well in missions throughout his career, he only had that one slump on Free Agents where he was underperforming. On Exes 2, he was arguably the best mission performer alongside Wes. He even matched Wes in swimming in the two missions revolving around swimming that same. On XXX, he was definitely a top 3 performer in missions alongside CT and Hunter (it was between him and Derrick for that third best mission performer spot). All the missions where he had to showcase individual abilities, such as The Purge, Saved By Bell, and X Marks The Spot, he was either the best performer or top performer. So this whole argument that Jordan isn’t a high caliber mission performer is quite outrageous. He suffers from the fact that new school missions rarely ever showcase individual abilities, as opposed to old school missions. He’s also 6-1 in eliminations, in which he’s showcased a variety of skills, such as his quickness in Last Chance, elim against Swift, ability to swing a hammer more efficiently than Zach and being able to wrestle blindfolded and collect patches off his opponent despite being handicapped with one less hand. jordan was not performing better than wes even though he had the best female partner on exes 2, also he was not top 3. It was CT hunter Derrick/Nelson as far as I remember and jordan hasn't beaten anyone notable on the challenge. Brad is better because his sexes 2 performance is better than any of Jordan's plus hes taken out the best top 2 competitors of all time and is the only person to do so
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Post by pepper on Nov 16, 2018 20:01:50 GMT -5
These are generalities and there is no specifics to this argument you’re making, because you can’t make a specific argument pointing out that Jordan is indeed not a high caliber mission competitor and elimination competitor. Jordan has done extremely well in missions throughout his career, he only had that one slump on Free Agents where he was underperforming. On Exes 2, he was arguably the best mission performer alongside Wes. He even matched Wes in swimming in the two missions revolving around swimming that same. On XXX, he was definitely a top 3 performer in missions alongside CT and Hunter (it was between him and Derrick for that third best mission performer spot). All the missions where he had to showcase individual abilities, such as The Purge, Saved By Bell, and X Marks The Spot, he was either the best performer or top performer. So this whole argument that Jordan isn’t a high caliber mission performer is quite outrageous. He suffers from the fact that new school missions rarely ever showcase individual abilities, as opposed to old school missions. He’s also 6-1 in eliminations, in which he’s showcased a variety of skills, such as his quickness in Last Chance, elim against Swift, ability to swing a hammer more efficiently than Zach and being able to wrestle blindfolded and collect patches off his opponent despite being handicapped with one less hand. jordan was not performing better than wes even though he had the best female partner on exes 2, also he was not top 3. It was CT hunter Derrick/Nelson as far as I remember and jordan hasn't beaten anyone notable on the challenge. Brad is better because his sexes 2 performance is better than any of Jordan's plus hes taken out the best top 2 competitors of all time and is the only person to do so Lmao, again you come with a lack of specifics. Jordan was clearly the best mission performer on Exes 2, only Wes was on par with him. Pull up the mission stats and tell me otherwise.”He wasn’t top 3” is blasphemous. Brad’s Sexes II performance isn’t all that impressive, the missions weren’t even all that strictly individual based. And yes, he beat the top 2 competitors of all time in what people consider the 2 most flukiest wins of all time lol. That CT win, especially, should be noted with two asterisks.
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Post by briqsquad on Nov 16, 2018 23:06:50 GMT -5
jordan was not performing better than wes even though he had the best female partner on exes 2, also he was not top 3. It was CT hunter Derrick/Nelson as far as I remember and jordan hasn't beaten anyone notable on the challenge. Brad is better because his sexes 2 performance is better than any of Jordan's plus hes taken out the best top 2 competitors of all time and is the only person to do so Lmao, again you come with a lack of specifics. Jordan was clearly the best mission performer on Exes 2, only Wes was on par with him. Pull up the mission stats and tell me otherwise.”He wasn’t top 3” is blasphemous. Brad’s Sexes II performance isn’t all that impressive, the missions weren’t even all that strictly individual based. And yes, he beat the top 2 competitors of all time in what people consider the 2 most flukiest wins of all time lol. That CT win, especially, should be noted with two asterisks. Hunter outperformed Jordan 3-2 in XXX while Nelson also outperformed Jordan 2-1 while taking out the 2nd best competitor in hunter this season as well. Jordan was 4th best competitor this season Wasnt strictly individual based lol and jordan has perfromed in sh*t that's strictly individual based? Exes 2 is probably his best season but what do you know, the best female competitor sarah is his partner.
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Post by Donald on Nov 17, 2018 8:18:27 GMT -5
Jordan is not top 10 and even as a two time champ I dont feel like he has done anything notable lmao. Like tell me a season where Jordan DOMINATED comptetively.. It hasnt happened yet. I think hes solid af and someone you’d want on ur team but calling him top 10 overall is a STRETCH
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Post by Donald on Nov 17, 2018 8:23:52 GMT -5
Lmao, again you come with a lack of specifics. Jordan was clearly the best mission performer on Exes 2, only Wes was on par with him. Pull up the mission stats and tell me otherwise.”He wasn’t top 3” is blasphemous. Brad’s Sexes II performance isn’t all that impressive, the missions weren’t even all that strictly individual based. And yes, he beat the top 2 competitors of all time in what people consider the 2 most flukiest wins of all time lol. That CT win, especially, should be noted with two asterisks. Hunter outperformed Jordan 3-2 in XXX while Nelson also outperformed Jordan 2-1 while taking out the 2nd best competitor in hunter this season as well. Jordan was 4th best competitor this season Wasnt strictly individual based lol and jordan has perfromed in sh*t that's strictly individual based? Exes 2 is probably his best season but what do you know, the best female competitor sarah is his partner. he really tryna say that Jordan was on par with Wes lmao the eye test says otherwise. Jordan was QUIVERING to have Wes/Theresa in the final even when he had the “best” girl that season. Exes 2 also showed how dumb Jordan was politically lmfao,
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Post by pepper on Nov 17, 2018 19:23:29 GMT -5
Hunter outperformed Jordan 3-2 in XXX while Nelson also outperformed Jordan 2-1 while taking out the 2nd best competitor in hunter this season as well. Jordan was 4th best competitor this season Wasnt strictly individual based lol and jordan has perfromed in sh*t that's strictly individual based? Exes 2 is probably his best season but what do you know, the best female competitor sarah is his partner. he really tryna say that Jordan was on par with Wes lmao the eye test says otherwise. Jordan was QUIVERING to have Wes/Theresa in the final even when he had the “best” girl that season. Exes 2 also showed how dumb Jordan was politically lmfao, Lmao. “Quivering”. I don’t remember that, but if that was the case, that was because he had Sarah as his partner. Jordan would oliberate Wes in a final, who you kidding. Jordan has ATG stamina and a top tier finalist all time (along w/ Landon, Kenny, and Darrell).
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Post by briqsquad on Nov 17, 2018 22:46:36 GMT -5
he really tryna say that Jordan was on par with Wes lmao the eye test says otherwise. Jordan was QUIVERING to have Wes/Theresa in the final even when he had the “best” girl that season. Exes 2 also showed how dumb Jordan was politically lmfao, Lmao. “Quivering”. I don’t remember that, but if that was the case, that was because he had Sarah as his partner. Jordan would oliberate Wes in a final, who you kidding. Jordan has ATG stamina and a top tier finalist all time (along w/ Landon, Kenny, and Darrell). respond to me peasant
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Post by Donald on Nov 18, 2018 0:01:45 GMT -5
imagine putting Jordan in the top 10 before Johnny lmao
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Post by pepper on Nov 18, 2018 0:18:10 GMT -5
imagine putting Jordan in the top 10 before Johnny lmao Johnny has 14 elimination losses all time, lmao. He makes the top 15 of off repetition and most expertise. He lacks the skill sets and assets that Jordan brings to the table, therefore no shot in hell he makes top 10 or is above Jordan all time.
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Post by briqsquad on Nov 19, 2018 13:51:15 GMT -5
Criteria: Strength, athleticism, Skill, Mental, Endurance, Stamina, and Finals ( which is basically endurance, stamina and mental combined). Top 10 1. CT 2. Landon 3. Theo V. 4. Dan S. 5. Mark Long 6. Evan 7. Derrick K 8. The Miz 9. Abram 10. Brad Dewie890 sticky this on front page.
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Post by Donald on Nov 19, 2018 18:25:42 GMT -5
imagine putting Jordan in the top 10 before Johnny lmao Johnny has 14 elimination losses all time, lmao. He makes the top 15 of off repetition and most expertise. He lacks the skill sets and assets that Jordan brings to the table, therefore no shot in hell he makes top 10 or is above Jordan all time. Before I make a full rebuttal to this, what skill sets do Johnny lack that Jordan excel in?
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Post by pepper on Nov 20, 2018 5:48:59 GMT -5
Criteria: Strength, athleticism, Skill, Mental, Endurance, Stamina, and Finals ( which is basically endurance, stamina and mental combined). Top 10 1. CT 2. Landon 3. Theo V. 4. Dan S. 5. Mark Long 6. Evan 7. Derrick K 8. The Miz 9. Abram 10. Brad Dewie890 sticky this on front page. Unnecessary. Sticky an official list in an opinion thread? Top 10 challengers is subjective.
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Post by pepper on Nov 22, 2018 7:16:39 GMT -5
Ok, here’s something new.
I was thinking about All Time Great Competitors and the holes they have in their game. These flaws for some competitors have proven to be substantial in their careers, while for others it didn’t really affect them as much, but it was still outright apparent that it was a hindrance.
Here’s the ATG competitor flaws that come to mind:
Theo’s intelligence Dan’s size/strength Mark’s lack of killer instinct Miz’s climbing ability Evan’s mental strength Abram’s disqualifying tendency Derrick’s intelligence Derrick’s size Darrell’s inept activity requiring heights Banana’s clutch gene in eliminations Alton’s skill Jordan’s one hand Wes’s season to season inconsistency
What would you guys say, in order, are the top three biggest hindrances in terms of ATG competitor flaws? Like which flaw held which competitor back the most?
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Post by briqsquad on Nov 23, 2018 21:40:34 GMT -5
Ok, here’s something new. I was thinking about All Time Great Competitors and the holes they have in their game. These flaws for some competitors have proven to be substantial in their careers, while for others it didn’t really affect them as much, but it was still outright apparent that it was a hindrance. Here’s the ATG competitor flaws that come to mind: Theo’s intelligence Dan’s size/strength Mark’s lack of killer instinct Miz’s climbing ability Evan’s mental strength Abram’s disqualifying tendency Derrick’s intelligence Derrick’s size Darrell’s inept activity requiring heights Banana’s clutch gene in eliminations Alton’s skill Jordan’s one hand Wes’s season to season inconsistency What would you guys say, in order, are the top three biggest hindrances in terms of ATG competitor flaws? Like which flaw held which competitor back the most? 3 biggest flaws would be intelligence, skill and mental Strength because those would be the most difficult to improve on. These are kinda like you either got it or you dont. Some of the others you can improve on like endurance or Strength
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Post by pepper on Nov 23, 2018 22:11:44 GMT -5
Ok, here’s something new. I was thinking about All Time Great Competitors and the holes they have in their game. These flaws for some competitors have proven to be substantial in their careers, while for others it didn’t really affect them as much, but it was still outright apparent that it was a hindrance. Here’s the ATG competitor flaws that come to mind: Theo’s intelligence Dan’s size/strength Mark’s lack of killer instinct Miz’s climbing ability Evan’s mental strength Abram’s disqualifying tendency Derrick’s intelligence Derrick’s size Darrell’s inept activity requiring heights Banana’s clutch gene in eliminations Alton’s skill Jordan’s one hand Wes’s season to season inconsistency What would you guys say, in order, are the top three biggest hindrances in terms of ATG competitor flaws? Like which flaw held which competitor back the most? 3 biggest flaws would be intelligence, skill and mental Strength because those would be the most difficult to improve on. These are kinda like you either got it or you dont. Some of the others you can improve on like endurance or Strength Good answer, but I’m asking which three competitors and their flaws do you think has proven to hinder them the most.
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Post by Donald on Nov 24, 2018 7:02:46 GMT -5
False Jordans reals hinder is his ego and mouth.
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