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Post by Dewie890 on Apr 19, 2015 20:53:41 GMT -5
You have won...
The Diamond Power of Veto!
Description: It grants the bearer the power to remove a player off of Nomination Block and then select the nomination themselves, rather than deferring to the HOH for the replacement nominee. The holder of this Veto may not select either the HOH or the regular Veto holder as a replacement.
You can use this power once in the next 3 evictions.
Choose wisely.
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Post by Phil on Apr 19, 2015 20:54:48 GMT -5
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGG
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Post by Phil on Apr 19, 2015 21:01:11 GMT -5
oh, yeah, also dont say anything.
i'll take the brunt of keeping it from people when they asked me what i got and get mad that i didnt share. at least i didnt lie when i said i didnt get anything smilesmile
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Post by Dewie890 on Apr 19, 2015 21:04:23 GMT -5
oh, yeah, also dont say anything. i'll take the brunt of keeping it from people when they asked me what i got and get mad that i didnt share. at least i didnt lie when i said i didnt get anything smilesmile
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Post by Phil on Apr 19, 2015 21:17:08 GMT -5
ALSO THE PLOT THICKENS AND PHIL MAY HAVE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE LOL.
I'm also VERY confused.
OK so i have been talking to Cole a lot. i thought he was like, on my side..and i thought we were starting to get close n sh*t, preparing to make a move agianst some of the power players.
Then James sends me message:
"OK ugh I guess I have no choice but to spill everything. Day 1. There was a 7 man alliance created. I was in it of course, what was I supposed to say...no? YM was in it. Magnum. Alad. Jhon. And your favorite duo Vova and Briq. I kinda went along with everything they said because we had the majority every week. That first week I was totally down to vote out YM. I knew how much of a threat he was. I went with the vote, but Briq and Vova didn't. They said "it's because we're homies". Did you not think to expect anything? Also, Vova and Briq are most likely in it till the end. They're playing the best games right now and they'll definitely take each other to the F2 over us. And if they do take us, there's not chance in hell we're winning. So I just wanted to let you know that if me or you don't win, it could possibly be you going home this week. There would be nothing I could do.
Now that being said, I have potentially set up a deal for us and we could very well flip this game. Are you interested?
Cole just sent me this."
-- END MESSAGE --
THEN I f*ckING MESSAGE COLE ALL LIKE "oh so james was saying that he has a plan to switch the game up etc etc etc"
THEN I SEE "cole just sent me this"
and i'm like...
FUUUUCK. why did i just message cole? was james sending me this PM in confidence? I THOUGHT the message was about how JAMES was in the 7 man alliance and that how *I* was the next target if we don't win. but in reality the message came from COLE and was sent to JAMES meaning that JAMES was the next target, but that COLE WANTS TO SAVE JAMES AND WORK WITH JAMES.
AND then stupid me messags cole all like "OMG JAMES HAS BEEN TALKING TO ME AND MENTIONED YOU AND OMG LETS ALL WORK TOGETHER LIKE OMG TOTALLY"
then James messages me telling me how Cole wants to set up a four way allaince beteen Cole/Magnum/Jhon/James to allegedly take out Briq/Vova?
OH sh*t. i'm totally not even included in this. and neither is alad. LOL. okkkk soo maybe i wont give up on alad yet. so here i am still just trucking along doing nothing in la la land actin like i know what i'm doing, trusting no one but talking to everyone. no wait i really dont know what the f*ck i'm doing.
Also James is REALLY confusing. he says that briq says that cole is targetting me/james, but also says that cole is trying to make an alliance with james. BUT THEN HERE I AM THINKING I'M MAKING AN ALLIANCE WITH COLE AND THEN WITH COLE/JAMES
I'm so f*cking dumb, you know?
so, honestly..i think i will f*cking do nothing and see what happens with this HOH and POV and even if i have to use my DPOV this round its ok.
this round a lot of sh*t is coming out..and lines will be drawn. i have the DPOV as my hail mary so that gives me a chance to choose a side maybe last minute
i thought i could trust cole. i thought i could trust james. but james is confusing and cole now sounds shady.
i can trust no one. tbh i wouldnt mind if they all betrayed briq/vova and then i could reveal everything to briq. i cant go with briq because i know he's tight with vova. but i have to just stay cool with them. stay cool..
also... i dunno why james is telling me all this. he has to trust me somehow, so at least i still have james.
this is a damn mess.
QUESTION ABOUT DPOV? at what point can i use my DPOV? lets say i'm on the block and the pov ceremoney is complete and i havent been taken off the block. can i use my DPOV at any point between POV ceremony and votes, or must i do it at the POV ceremony?
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Post by Phil on Apr 19, 2015 21:36:59 GMT -5
From James:
Cole is trying to set up an alliance between Cole/John/Magnum/James
From James:
Cole is trying to target Phil/James
WTF
WTF
WTF
These people are weird. I feel so much better about being stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 21:46:37 GMT -5
You have to make a decision right after the POV Ceremony.
Here is an example that I found:
Lets say Matt was awarded the DPOV. Brendon is the winner of Head of Household, His nominations are Matt and Ragan. The regular POV contest is played and Ragan wins the Power of Veto. During the POV Ceremony Ragan uses the Power of Veto and removes himself from being a nominee. Brendon being the Head of Household has to nominate another player for eviction. He nominates Lane, Now Lane and Matt are up for Eviction (Remember that Matt still has the DPOV) During the Live Eviction show right before the house guests vote for who is sent home Matt uses the Diamond Power of Veto. He is then removed as a nominee and he now has the ability to nominate another houseguest instead of Brendon. Matt makes a power move and nominates Kathy.
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Post by Phil on Apr 20, 2015 18:44:51 GMT -5
Basically, Cole told me James was gonna put me up as a pawn if he won. I was surprised but just took that info and sat on it. I kinda believed it at first, was mad, and shrugged it off. But now I realize it was just a lie.
Then James tells me Cole is trying to make an alliance with him, but has told Briq that he [Cole] is trying to target me/James.
Cole then tells me that me, him, and James should target Briq/Vova.
So basically Cole is trying to turn me, Briq, James, and Vova against eachother, but all he really did was just solidify my choice to side with Briq and James. I *have* been in an alliance with them, but I was also looking for other options.
Now remember, early on, I was kinda mad because it seemed like everyone was trying to do sh*t behind my back and I sorta found out stuff after everyone, even though I try to keep in the loop. I really thought Cole was kinda on the outside as well, but clearly he's not and now he's trying to make a move. Now Cole thinks I'm cool with targetting Briq/Vova. James knows I talked to Cole, James spilled everything that Cole told him to Briq. Briq knows I talked to James and Cole. So hopefully me, Briq, and James (and Vova) will all still be on the same page. If Cole is making sh*t up and trying to split us apart, then he can go.
I actually *do* agree that Briq/Vova together are a threat, but I think I'll have to deal with that later. I'm still close with Briq and James, and if Briq is close to Vova, then I can make it work. I'm not cool with people stirring sh*t, and if Cole is trying to make an alliance with him/Magnum/Jhonmarco, then I'm gonna have to target them.
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Post by Phil on Apr 22, 2015 1:42:01 GMT -5
Okay so we're at the Final 8, right?
Right now, the house seems to be split 4-4.
Side A: Phil, James, Briq, Vova Side B: Cole, Jhonmarco, Magnum, Alad (probably)
Honestly I have no idea where the f*ck Alad stands, but let's put him on Side B for now.
The mystery box prizes have thus far been revealed as such:
Cole: Vodka (unconfirmed) Jhonmarco: Cole's underwear (unconfirmed but likely, imo) Vova: extra vote Phil: DPOV (only James knows)
I'm only currently worried that a coup d'etat exists, but I am also slightly hopeful that it simply doesn't. Four boxes were given away. Two are good and two are bad. The list above shows two good prizes and two bad prizes. Sounds legit. But, let's worry about the coup just for game's sake, shall we? I'm not thinking that the Lava Veto is a thing. It's...too powerful. I don't want to think about it right now because even if it was a thing, there would be absolutely nothing I could do to prevent it.
The current state of the game is such that Cole is targetting basically anyone from Side A. However, it seems his main target is Briq. Or, at the very least to split up Briq/Vova. Cole already asked me if I wanted to be a pawn, to which I flatly replied "Nope. I absolutely do not want to be a pawn. I'm kinda serious. :\" I want, at the very least, to guilt trip him if I need to. I cannot be a pawn. Here's why.
I need Vova to be on the block this week. If he has that extra vote, I need him to be on the block so I can use my veto on him. That way, by using my DPOV, I would ensure that I can't be put up on the block in any scenario (including a surprise coup attack). I can also assure that Vova would be safe, thus having the ability to use his extra vote for our side if he needs to. If I use my DPOV, I can put up whoever I want. Basically, I can put up someone from Side B. Anyone we want out, really. That person would go.
We actually probably wouldn't even need Vova's extra vote. Which is scary cuz I'd want him to use it sooner rather than later, but it could come in handy in a future round. We'd have the numbers, but numbers are always dependent on HOH. If our side loses, we'd need that extra vote, AND we'd need the regular veto to work out perfectly.
Using my DPOV is not ideal, but I think its the only way to get an upper hand in terms of numbers going into the next round.
Also, Vova, Briq, and James NEED to be with me on this four way alliance. If there are still random ties to other people in this house, they need to be cut immediately. IMO the lines have been drawn, and it was spelled out so perfectly for James, and came straight from Cole. Cole is working with Jhon and Magnum, and is trying to string James and Me along, separately. They're against Briq/Vova and Alad seems to not be included in anything. So f*ck if I know, Alad could still be on my side in this. I just can't trust him right now, unfortunately. If I need to, I can spell it out for him to get him to vote my way if necessary. We'll see.
I'm nervous about this round, but I am hopeful. Even if the cout d'etat exists, it shouldn't be that scary. I mean think about it.
Let's run through some scenarios. Players and Sides:
SCENARIO #1 (No coup d'etat)
Side A: A1, A2, A3, A4 Side B: B1, B2, B3, before
HOH: B1 Pre Veto noms: A1, A2 Veto: Side B Post Veto noms: A1, A2 DPOV: Side A Post DPOV noms: A1, B2
Voters: B3, before, A2, A3, A4 Side A wins
Scenario #2 (With coup) HOH: B1 Noms: A1, A2 Veto: Side A Noms: A1, A3 DPOV: Side A Noms: B2, A3 Coup d'etat: Side B Noms: A4, B3
Voters: B2, before, A1, A2, A3 Side A wins
Scenario #3 (with coup) HOH: B1 Noms: A1, A2 Veto: Side B Noms: A1, A2 DPOV: Side A Noms: A1, B2 Coupe d'etat: Side B Noms: A3, A4
Voters: A1, A2, B2, B3, before Side B wins (MAYBE) (!!!!!!! ooops) This scenario would be bad if Vova was either A3 or A4. Vova needs to be a voter no matter what. Then it would tie, and Side B would still have the advantage with HOH tie. I guess it all depended on if the veto was used.
Dammit why did I have to run these scenarios in my head? Now I'm bummed out that there is a way to fail this round. BOO.
The coup d'etat simply cant exist. That's all there is to it. Otherwise, my plan will work perfectly. The only thing that will ruin my plan is the coup d'etat, because then there are so many other factors that play into it like who wins veto, do they use it, etc.
I'm thinking too hard. I thought this week was foolproof, tbh. But I guess not.
And plus, this could all be wrong anyway.
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Post by Phil on Apr 22, 2015 1:44:16 GMT -5
"Side A: A1, A2, A3, A4 Side B: B1, B2, B3, before"
I can't believe I wrote "before". I'm a f*cking loser.
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Post by Phil on Apr 22, 2015 2:14:00 GMT -5
This is a PM I am thinking of sending to James. I wanna wait a little bit for the fallout of Cole's win to sink in before I send it. I am paranoid I will say something stupid and f*ck up.
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My wheels are spinning this round. I'm thinking of a way to make sure we are safe no matter what, and the DPOV might be our ticket. Cole has asked me if I wanted to be a pawn. I flat out said no. If he wants to target Briq/Vova, he should just do it and put them both up. I'd rather have them both up rather than one of us. Plus, I'm sick of being a pawn. If you talk to him, and you get the sense that Briq/Vova are the targets, that he needs to just put em both up. I've asked him to tell me his plan if he wants to put me up as a pawn, so hopefully he's truthful about what he says. Briq is sure he's going up.
I want to make sure that You, Me, Briq, and Vova are tight this round so we can vote as a unit, whichever of us are voting. If one of us wins veto, we can definitely ensure we have the votes this round. I can use my DPOV to take off someone from our side and put up anyone we want gone (idc who, we'd just need to decide). Then if the four of us stick together, whoever is up against that other person will survive, and we'd have a majority going into the next round. Potentially with Vova's extra vote which I'd like to put to good use sooner rather than later (how do you feel about this?).
I am thinking that the house is split right now.
You, Me, Briq, Vova Cole, Magnum, Jhon, Alad (?)
Am I way off on this? I don't know where Alad stands, and based on what Cole has said to you, he wasn't included in Cole's proposed alliance of you/Cole/Magnum/Jhon. This could work to our benefit if Alad is not included in that alliance, which means we could potentially try to pick him up for ourselves in the event Briq/Vova run away with the game? Just a side thought, but not necessarily important right now.
I have not told either Briq or Vova about my DPOV, but I may do so after the veto, depending on how the results go.
Thoughts? Does this make sense? Am I mad? Dumb?
Cole's trying to make a big move this week, and I want it to blow up in his face.
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The reason I don't want to send it right away, is because I wrote my last confessional and this message in kind of a heated moment, and I need to step back and find out more about where Magnum and Jhon sit in this?
Briq..said that they were both straight up with him and said Cole is targetting him. So..they're not hiding anything.
I *did* send Vova a message saying that he, briq, me, and james need to stick together and get cole's plan to backfire somehow. iiiiiiiiif briq/vova are trying to make a bunch of deals, and iiiiif they see potential in any one of magnum/jhon/alad, i need to make sure that this round doesn't backfire on ME. so i want vova/briq to want to stick with me no matter what, even if they see other potential players that could help them. they *were* in an alliance with magnum/jhon (i think?) before, so you never know what sort of loyalty they have there, ya know? i just need to make sure they dont wanna dump me in a desperate attempt to save themselves.
but they can't anyway, since i have my DPOV and i'm pretty set on using it this round tbqh. its another way to solidify briq/vova and save them with my plan rather than letting jhon/magnum save one/both of them with their votes.
i have a brain and i'm trying to use it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 20:48:45 GMT -5
1. Now that you and James have been nominated do you plan on using the DPOV?
2. How do you feel about Cole's nomination speech?
3. If you could have anyone leave this week who would it be and why?
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Post by Phil on Apr 22, 2015 20:49:19 GMT -5
Omg this is probably all my fault!!! Lol lol lol
El oh el
Elllll oooooohhhhhh elllllll
LOLOLOLOL
Idefgaf
Idgaf
Idc
Lolol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 20:51:21 GMT -5
Omg this is probably all my fault!!! Lol lol lol El oh el Elllll oooooohhhhhh elllllll LOLOLOLOL Idefgaf Idgaf Idc Lolol. What did you do? hahaha
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Post by Phil on Apr 22, 2015 21:10:40 GMT -5
I don't know but I told cole that James messaged me about a plan to flip up the game. But in reality, James copied a pm from cole and sent it to me, and I misinteroreted it and thought I needed to talk to Cole. In reality, James was throwing cole under the bus, but I thought it was a plan for us all to work together against Briq. Thank god I did not explicitly say what the pm said. But I think cole realized james was talking to me, and maybe that started a random spiral of paranoia? In any case, I think I made it seem like I was down for targeting Briq/vova. So I'm not sure if any of my info leaked cuz after that I only talked to Briq vova and James.
And if this "so and so is a liar" mess is not my fault, then I am a f*cking genius who made a good recovery from my pm slip up. If it is my fault, then I am a clown.
But somehow I am still a target. Lolz whoops.
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Post by Phil on Apr 23, 2015 13:48:54 GMT -5
1. Now that you and James have been nominated do you plan on using the DPOV? 2. How do you feel about Cole's nomination speech? 3. If you could have anyone leave this week who would it be and why? I kinda planned on using it if I felt we needed to break a 4-4 house split. I'm not sure the house is split like I thought before. I haven't rakjed to Jhon or mag but others say they think cole went crazy and might want him out., Coles nom speech was dumb tbh. He's just butt hurt james threw him under the bus. It's true. I asked cole what james lies about and he couldn't specify. So dumpid. It would be Jhon or mag tbh. They'll try to rebound easily from this exposure eith cole, but I believe they were with him before. Plus I think mag voted for me. But yeah h kinda stopped talking to them both so bye. I wanna say im cool with alad again but tbh I really don't know. We tried to get caught up. If someone uses the veto and coke wants to backtrack in targetting Briq, he may pussy out and put up Alad. In that case I might let it go to vote, or I might use Pov. Mag, Jhon, alad are ppl I wouldn't be that upset about leaving.
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Post by Phil on Apr 24, 2015 20:27:32 GMT -5
SO ANNOYING. I REALLY WANTED TO WIN THIS.
My backup plan is to now try to guilt Cole into using it on me and putting up a different pawn. LOL its a long shot but i want to just ask him to take me off. I WANTED HIM TO f*ckIN MAKE A REPLACEMENT NOM AND RUIN WHATEVER RELATIONSHIPS HE HAD LEFT. cuz..i thought....if i won, i wonder if he would really put up briq or if he'd pussy out and put up Alad as a different pawn, LOL. cuz then we'd just vote out alad (:sadtorch) and i'd get to keep my veto.
SORRY BOUT IT BUT I AM GONNA USE MY DPOV IF I AM STILL ON THE BLOCK AFTER THIS CEREMONY.
i am not gonna be a pawn against James, i dont even give a f*ck if i have a 100% chance staying. SORRY BOUT IT BUT I ASKED NICELY TO COLE..LIKE MAYBE THREE TIMES. I WILL GET TO VOTE, DAMMIT. James has too much dirt on me and would be desperate enough if i f*cking didnt use my DPOV. cuz he knows i have it (dammit, why did i say?).
anyway...NOOO COOLLEEE YOUUUUUUU SUUUUCKKKK. no really you suck and this is stupid.
final 7 here i come.
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Post by Dewie890 on Apr 24, 2015 21:48:39 GMT -5
Who is your replacement nom if you are still on the block after the ceremony?
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Post by Phil on Apr 24, 2015 21:58:48 GMT -5
i am in consultation with briq/vova and i will have my answer before the veto deadline.
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Post by Phil on Apr 24, 2015 22:31:35 GMT -5
heh heh heh.
the plot thickens, yet again.
i really wish i never told james about my DPOV. it was a moment of weakness where i needed to tell him something that would ensure that he knew i was with him, and i needed to bring it up to get some info out of him...whatever he knew..or thinks he knows. i spent too much time messing up and not really reciprocating our allegiance, so i had to tell him.
this becomes a problem because briq/vova want me to save my DPOV. but that means they are willing to get rid of james...even if it means there is a chance to get rid of magnum? or are they just really desperate to get me to save my DPOV? this is kind of ridiculous. i can waste it at the F8 if i want. its not like its their veto. it would only save *me* in future rounds, and potentially put them at risk. whatever. they want some ownership over my DPOV? lol nope. if i waste it this week i dont really care. i am using this as leverage to get information smilesmile
currently, i am trying to see if they will try to get cole to take me off and put someone else up in my place. LOL. i am serious, i do want to guilt trip cole into doing it, HAHA. if he can put up a rando, then i can keep my veto.
the problem is that if he doesnt use it, i WILL use my veto. there is no way i am gonna sit on the block with it. ESPECIALLY against james who games hard. i dont want to live another 24 hours of agony wondering if i will be voted out. plus i'm toooooo daaaaaaamnnnn lazyyyyyyy tooo campaiiiiignnnnn ugh f*ck. campaigning. f*ck that sh*t. i am honestly using my DPOV mostly out of pure laziness that i don't want to campaign. james is less lazy than me.
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