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Post by kennyfan on Jun 22, 2013 4:57:38 GMT -5
My top 10
1.Darrell 2.CT 3.Kenny 4.Mark 5.Abram 6.Theo V. 7.Johnny 8.The Miz 9.Derrick 10.Wes
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2013 5:21:20 GMT -5
My top 10 1.Darrell 2.CT 3.Kenny 4.Mark 5.Abram 6.Theo V. 7.Johnny 8.The Miz 9.Derrick 10.WesWhat is your criteria? Do you include social game? Because this ranking is HIGHLY inaccurate according to statistics and overall ability.
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Post by kennyfan on Jun 22, 2013 9:22:05 GMT -5
I know some people are ranked too high based on their abilities but they're political masterminds and people are scared to send them into elimination rounds and they win the biggest amount of money at the end and I think that matters but I also think that guys like Landon,Alton,Abram are strong competitors.
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Post by jsmith33317 on Jun 24, 2013 17:26:42 GMT -5
lol finally someone has Darrell ranked higher than i do
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 4:50:14 GMT -5
Darrell outperformed Mike on the Inferno when you don't count the two missions that Darrell threw (to help the team get rid of Katie) which were Balcony Swing and Saturn Valet Ballet.
Darrell outperformed Mike in:
Grope the Rope Bungee Bound Twist And Shoot Fallen Angels Window Washing
Mike outperformed Darrell in:
Climbing Wall Don't Yank My Chain Bird Feeder
Darrell outperformed Mike five to three in missions overall. CT and Darrell were the two best performers on the Inferno, I always knew Darrell was capable of more than what he put out most of the time, particularly on challenges like the Gauntlet and especially the Inferno 2. This also clearly means that Darrell is a better competitor than Johnny, who has been credited recently as being the "better" of the two with the most challenge wins.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 17:28:59 GMT -5
Darrell outperformed Mike on the Inferno when you don't count the two missions that Darrell threw (to help the team get rid of Katie) which were Balcony Swing and Saturn Valet Ballet. Darrell outperformed Mike in: Grope the Rope Bird Feeder Bungee Bound Twist And Shoot Fallen Angels Window Washing Mike outperformed Darrell in: Climbing Wall Don't Yank My Chain Darrell outperformed Mike six to two in missions overall, and if someone wants to say "oh but you still have to include the two missions that Darrell threw because it isn't fair".... that would still make it six to four overall. CT and Darrell were the two best performers on the Inferno, I always knew Darrell was capable of more than what he put out most of the time, particularly on challenges like the Gauntlet and especially the Inferno 2. This also clearly means that Darrell is a better competitor than Johnny, who has been credited recently as being the "better" of the two with the most challenge wins. False. Mike outperformed Darrell in Bird Feeder. But nonetheless, Darrell outperformed Mike in the Inferno overall. And Derrick is better than the Miz I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 18:21:43 GMT -5
False. Mike outperformed Darrell in Bird Feeder. But nonetheless, Darrell outperformed Mike in the Inferno overall. And Derrick is better than the Miz I think.Disagree. You need to make quite a strong case for that.
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Post by jsmith33317 on Jun 27, 2013 20:27:48 GMT -5
I've always thought Darrell was on par or slightly better than Abram. They've both had some weak performances but also shown to be dominant at times too. The only thing that I really see Abram having the upper hand in is leadership
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 21:58:24 GMT -5
False. Mike outperformed Darrell in Bird Feeder. But nonetheless, Darrell outperformed Mike in the Inferno overall. And Derrick is better than the Miz I think.Disagree. You need to make quite a strong case for that. You're overlooking the non-recurring old school competitor in Mike. On The Gauntlet, he was the second best competitor after Theo, but after that the competitors he outperformed were Abram, Adam L, and Alton. But then like you mentioned he was outperformed by Darrell in the Inferno. Mike showed to be very horrible in climbing competitions, in which he performed pretty bad (Vertical Limit, Fallen Angels, All or Nothing, etc).
Not to mention Derrick outperformed Mike in pretty much almost every mission they competed in along with one another on Battle of the Sexes 2 and Inferno 2.
Derrick outperformed Mike in: Dangle Drop, Surf Torture, Dodge Yer Balls, Zip It Up, Time to Ride, Heart Rate Bungee (though this mission was completely worthless).
Mike outperformed Derrick in: Juice It Up, What A Drag.
Dangle Drop was pure endurance in which Derrick outperformed Miz.
So was Surf Torture, which was pure body endurance.
Dodge Yer Balls, mission about skill. Derrick owned the Blue Team along with CT. Every other competitor got knocked off at one point (Abram, Rachel, Landon, Darrell, Mike, Brad). Abram actually got knocked off twice.
Zip It Up, mission about strength. Upper body strength. Derrick outperformed The Miz.
Time To Ride, purely skill. Again Derrick beats the Miz.
The Miz beat Derrick in a mission where you had to pedal the breaks on your car before clashing with a pyramid of wine glasses. Not too much there.
Take into account, that two of Derrick's losses were strictly because of weight factor (against Timmy on G2 and Tyler on Cutthroat). Another loss of his was because he and his partner had about fifty more pounds of weight to carry than Wes and Casey did.
When it comes down to it all, Miz doesn't really have good stamina and is horrible at climbing competitions. Derrick in just two seasons has outperformed Mike in a perfect example of different mission qualities: Endurance (x2), Strength (x1), and Skill (x2).
Not to mention Derrick in I2, was the second best performer after CT, who he was almost in par with. In G2, he was the best competitor that season according to his elimination round victories, and in FM, he was the second best competitor along with Evan after Theo (who he was nearly in par with) in missions.
Derrick takes the sixth spot in my list.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 27, 2013 22:12:22 GMT -5
Disagree. You need to make quite a strong case for that. You're overlooking the non-recurring old school competitor in Mike. On The Gauntlet, he was the second best competitor after Theo, but after that the competitors he outperformed were Abram, Adam L, and Alton. But then like you mentioned he was outperformed by Darrell in the Inferno. Mike showed to be very horrible in climbing competitions, in which he performed pretty bad (Vertical Limit, Fallen Angels, All or Nothing, etc).
Not to mention Derrick outperformed Mike in pretty much almost every mission they competed in along with one another on Battle of the Sexes 2 and Inferno 2.
Derrick outperformed Mike in: Dangle Drop, Surf Torture, Dodge Yer Balls, Zip It Up, Time to Ride, Heart Rate Bungee (though this mission was completely worthless).
Mike outperformed Derrick in: Juice It Up, What A Drag.
Dangle Drop was pure endurance in which Derrick outperformed Miz.
So was Surf Torture, which was pure body endurance.
Dodge Yer Balls, mission about skill. Derrick owned the Blue Team along with CT. Every other competitor got knocked off at one point (Abram, Rachel, Landon, Darrell, Mike, Brad). Abram actually got knocked off twice.
Zip It Up, mission about strength. Upper body strength. Derrick outperformed The Miz.
Time To Ride, purely skill. Again Derrick beats the Miz.
The Miz beat Derrick in a mission where you had to pedal the breaks on your car before clashing with a pyramid of wine glasses. Not too much there.
Take into account, that two of Derrick's losses were strictly because of weight factor (against Timmy on G2 and Tyler on Cutthroat). Another loss of his was because he and his partner had about fifty more pounds of weight to carry than Wes and Casey did.
When it comes down to it all, Miz doesn't really have good stamina and is horrible at climbing competitions. Derrick in just two seasons has outperformed Mike in a perfect example of different mission qualities: Endurance (x2), Strength (x1), and Skill (x2).
Not to mention Derrick in I2, was the second best performer after CT, who he was almost in par with. In G2, he was the best competitor that season according to his elimination round victories, and in FM, he was the second best competitor along with Evan after Theo (who he was nearly in par with) in missions.
Derrick takes the sixth spot in my list.
He faced Darrell and aviv, they won fair and square. Great points there though, I would agree with moving derrick over the miz.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 22:25:09 GMT -5
You're overlooking the non-recurring old school competitor in Mike. On The Gauntlet, he was the second best competitor after Theo, but after that the competitors he outperformed were Abram, Adam L, and Alton. But then like you mentioned he was outperformed by Darrell in the Inferno. Mike showed to be very horrible in climbing competitions, in which he performed pretty bad (Vertical Limit, Fallen Angels, All or Nothing, etc).
Not to mention Derrick outperformed Mike in pretty much almost every mission they competed in along with one another on Battle of the Sexes 2 and Inferno 2.
Derrick outperformed Mike in: Dangle Drop, Surf Torture, Dodge Yer Balls, Zip It Up, Time to Ride, Heart Rate Bungee (though this mission was completely worthless).
Mike outperformed Derrick in: Juice It Up, What A Drag.
Dangle Drop was pure endurance in which Derrick outperformed Miz.
So was Surf Torture, which was pure body endurance.
Dodge Yer Balls, mission about skill. Derrick owned the Blue Team along with CT. Every other competitor got knocked off at one point (Abram, Rachel, Landon, Darrell, Mike, Brad). Abram actually got knocked off twice.
Zip It Up, mission about strength. Upper body strength. Derrick outperformed The Miz.
Time To Ride, purely skill. Again Derrick beats the Miz.
The Miz beat Derrick in a mission where you had to pedal the breaks on your car before clashing with a pyramid of wine glasses. Not too much there.
Take into account, that two of Derrick's losses were strictly because of weight factor (against Timmy on G2 and Tyler on Cutthroat). Another loss of his was because he and his partner had about fifty more pounds of weight to carry than Wes and Casey did.
When it comes down to it all, Miz doesn't really have good stamina and is horrible at climbing competitions. Derrick in just two seasons has outperformed Mike in a perfect example of different mission qualities: Endurance (x2), Strength (x1), and Skill (x2).
Not to mention Derrick in I2, was the second best performer after CT, who he was almost in par with. In G2, he was the best competitor that season according to his elimination round victories, and in FM, he was the second best competitor along with Evan after Theo (who he was nearly in par with) in missions.
Derrick takes the sixth spot in my list.
He faced Darrell and aviv, they won fair and square. Great points there though, I would agree with moving derrick over the miz. Yeah and they still had to carry about 40 more pounds of weight.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 22:25:27 GMT -5
Nothing fair about that.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 27, 2013 22:30:03 GMT -5
Diem and derrick could not solve the puzzles and Darrell and aviv did. Theoretically, if they had the same weight the same result would have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 22:43:04 GMT -5
Wait. It was 75 pounds, not 40. Seems like a fair elimination.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 22:48:40 GMT -5
Diem and derrick could not solve the puzzles and Darrell and aviv did. Theoretically, if they had the same weight the same result would have happened. You're definitely wrong. Both Derrick and Diem correctly solved one puzzle, just like Darrell and Aviv who only answered one as well.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 27, 2013 23:02:59 GMT -5
I just watched it and you are correct. But Darrell smoked derrick on the way to the flag and back when derrick had a head start. You can see diem pass Darrell on the way back when she went to go look for derrick. So the weight argument is irrelevant because Darrell has better endurance than derrick and that would have been the main factor. There is no evidence with how well aviv's endurance is. For all we know Aviv could keep up with darrell.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 27, 2013 23:04:17 GMT -5
I'm not saying it was fair, but I am saying that darrell and aviv are the better team and without weights, would have still won.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 23:05:34 GMT -5
I just watched it and you are correct. But Darrell smoked derrick on the way to the flag and back when derrick had a head start. You can see diem pass Darrell on the way back when she went to go look for derrick. So the weight argument is irrelevant because Darrell has better endurance than derrick and that would have been the main factor. There is no evidence with how well aviv's endurance is. For all we know Aviv could keep up with darrell. What are you talking about? In the video, the reason Diem passes by Darrell and Derrick is near him is because Derrick had to go back to call his teammate to retrieve the flag. I will admit Darrell has better running endurance than Derrick, as he probably has the best along with others like Kenny and Landon, but that doesn't play a factor when it comes to a difference of 70 pounds. There's no way that plays a factor. Common sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 23:08:17 GMT -5
I'm not saying it was fair, but I am saying that darrell and aviv are the better team and without weights, would have still won. Not really. Derrick and Diem won three missions, more than Darrell and Aviv who only won 2. They were about equal. Not to mention they won the missions when they mattered most. Aviv is the only reason they probably would've won, because she was better at puzzles than Diem and Derrick were. Hence, the finale.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 27, 2013 23:16:01 GMT -5
I just watched it and you are correct. But Darrell smoked derrick on the way to the flag and back when derrick had a head start. You can see diem pass Darrell on the way back when she went to go look for derrick. So the weight argument is irrelevant because Darrell has better endurance than derrick and that would have been the main factor. There is no evidence with how well aviv's endurance is. For all we know Aviv could keep up with darrell. What are you talking about? In the video, the reason Diem passes by Darrell and Derrick is near him is because Derrick had to go back to call his teammate to retrieve the flag. I will admit Darrell has better running endurance than Derrick, as he probably has the best along with others like Kenny and Landon, but that doesn't play a factor when it comes to a difference of 70 pounds. There's no way that plays a factor. Common sense. Diem's interview says otherwise. Unless if it's editing but Diem is still in full sprint, seems like she has not seen derrick yet.
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