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Post by Dewie890 on Nov 16, 2016 13:58:33 GMT -5
The Finale: David vs. Stan
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Hello everyone! And welcome, to Big Brother!
In this thread, we will get to hear from our final 2 and their responses to the questions or statements made by each juror.
Before we get started I would like to thank Phil for all of his hardwork during this season, if a season 3 is in the plans, I would love to have you back on board.
Here are the rules.
-You may not make your post until after both opening statements are posted.
-The jurors can ONLY MAKE ONE POST
-Each juror is to address each of the final 2. If you have nothing to say or ask to a member of the final 2, say that.
-Please do not make your post too long or I will cut it down, this is not the time for you to get on a soapbox and talk about your own game, keep it directed at the final two houseguests.
-You may not respond to what the final 2 say to your post.
-Please wait until after the closing statements to cast your votes.
Final 2 Rules: DScott , @desertfox
-You will each start with an opening statement. Do not make it too long cuz I ain't got time to read that.
-You may ONLY respond to what the juror asked/said TO YOU. This is not going to breakdown into an argument between you two over who did what.
-After you have both responded to all the juror questions/statements, you each will make a closing statement.
With that being said, David and Stan, feel free to make your opening statements in this thread now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 16:46:21 GMT -5
HI JURY!!! First off I'd like to thank Phil and Dewie for creating this wonderful season of really creative comps. But enough about them, let me tell you why I think I should win.
In prior seasons I focused a lot on comp wins and social to get to the end, this time around I mainly wanted my strategy and social to carry me in fear of being a comp threat target so I threw many of the comps. Let me say that some I actually did try but the powerhouse duo of Josh and David took a lot of my spotlight which is why I needed to do something about that.
As far as my strategy/social game goes, I knew from the beginning that I would be a potential target, so what I did was align with a majority of the cast and have ONE person I would purposely not talk to and keep them for as long as I could. In this case it was Danny. I made it apparent I wanted him out publicly (but in reality I'd keep him) so my alliances wouldn't waver knowing that I would have someone to target rather them thinking I would go after them instead. I went as far as being "convinced" to change my thoughts on when people were to be evicted so it didn't seem as if I wanted them out myself.
I have plenty of things I want to say so I will end it here and wait for your questions that are directed towards me.
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Post by DScott on Nov 16, 2016 16:56:57 GMT -5
Thank you Dewie and Phil for this opportunity. I really had a great time getting a chance to play this game. There were ups and downs, but the experience wouldn't be what it was if it wasn't for every one of you.
I'll keep this short. I'm really proud of the game I played and the moves I made throughout the course of this season. I was often in power and even when I wasn't, I received zero votes against me. A testament to my social game, as well as my ability to perform in comps. I feel I was able to use my competition wins to continually improve my relationships and standing in the game.
Moreover, I can't wait to address all of your questions, elaborate on any game decisions and finish off a great season of Big Brother.
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Post by Dewie890 on Nov 16, 2016 17:05:31 GMT -5
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Post by Donald on Nov 16, 2016 17:26:45 GMT -5
I'll also like to thank Dewie and Phil for begging me to play lolll. Hmm I guess ill kick start this.. My personal opinion is this season wasn't that great. I think it started out strong but then got boring af right before merge.. It was definitely alot of power shifts tho. This is like the first bb season where there wasnt one cut clear comp beast and everyone was pretty much in the running to win.. usually we saw someone who soley dominates in the physical aspect all season...(Alice/Brooke/Nate) but this season didnt have that & that's interesting to me tbh lol. on to the finalist .. congrats yahh, . i'll take into account everything that happens this final and if I see some bullsh*t then I will remember that when deciding to vote. Do not take recognition for sh*t you didnt do, im not f*ckin around. I will deadass kill ur vote if I see u do that sh*t. Just had to get that out the way. Now considering that you two made it to the end I guess its safe to sat that we should have all played the way you two did.. Stan ....  Looking back on your game Im trying to think of moments where you shined or stepped out the box and I dont remember any. Infact the only things I remember you doing was voting me out and being a horrible ally/friend. Deadass we didnt start talking game seriously till after the Josh vote. Im not here to ask you to explain your moves or gameplay though, im sure alot of other people will already ask you that.. All I want you to do is tell me how each juror member can improve for future fgs.. im not asking for you to acknowledge anything I said in the paragraph lmao. Dont kiss a** in your answer either, I need you to personally tell each juror member what they need to do in order to get to finals like you.. thanks &goodluck. Dscott I like you but ur too nice. tell me 3 negative things about each juror. also rank each juror based on how much u like them. thanks fellas!!! |
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Post by Dewie890 on Nov 16, 2016 17:31:16 GMT -5
I'll also like to thank Dewie and Phil for begging me to play lolll. |
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Post by Jgrubl on Nov 16, 2016 17:46:44 GMT -5
First off, like to say all around great hosting from Dewie and Phil. Finally a game that didn't seem to drag on!
Onto the questions i have...
Stan: In games it's always good to have a special move that changes the game or that the rest of the house can respect, but you blew your only chance at having one. I continuously told you that David would win if he made final 2 against anyone, yet you took the easy way out and didn't have the balls to make a move that I would have. So, please explain to me why you made a dumbass move? And if you mention anything about needing to make the final 2 for sure then you'll def lose my vote when we both would've beaten ty in the final HoH.
David: I got nothing bad to say. For the most part you played a stand up game and werent skirmish like stan was. You gave me straight answers whether they were hard to hear or not. I respect that! I'd just like to know what you believe was the one move that got you to the final 2?
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Post by Joey on Nov 16, 2016 19:06:00 GMT -5
First of all, I would like to thank Dewie and Phil for rigging this game for David  Anyway, on to the questions. For Stan:In the beginning it seemed as though you were riding Kenny's coattails and floating through the game with no real allies and after Kenny was evicted, I presume you began riding David's coattails because I didn't see any real gameplay from you. Please tell me, in detail, what moves YOU made (not the moves your allies made) to get yourself to this point. For David:I've disliked you since almost day 1 of this game because of how condescending you are but now is not the time to talk about that. I want you to describe to me, in extreme detail, the moves you made and the path you took to get here. I don't just want a "My social game was good" answer, I want details. Thank you both and good luck. |
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Post by Ty on Nov 17, 2016 12:18:57 GMT -5
Princess is back and after finding my suitor, Dewie, we decided it's time to extend the royal family. So I look forward to knighting one of you tonight.. So let's get started (◕‿◕✿) David: We came into this game together and unfortunately we are leaving without each other. I was just a useless pawn and number to you and I feel like you played the f*ck outta me. I said my weaknesses were that I'm too loyal and too trusting, and you proved that right. You are no different than the guys of our tribe on Inferno Island. Matter of fact, you're worse than them. I know I'm suppose to ask a question, but you answered everything I need to know about you and where you stood during our discord conversation that night of you nominating me. So just like the answer you gave me, I'll answer the same about you asking for my vote... I don't know, we'll see. Stanislaus: AZ REPRESENT!! You were always upfront and honest with me, so let me be with you. You were absolutely pathetic during the final HOH. Like, why should I vote for you to win with that performance? Also, why do you deserve it over David and what are big moves you made? Because the gameplay this season was relatively boring and safe. There were moves you could've made that would've been bold and respectable, but you didn't go through with them. I told you straight up David was gonna plow you so hard in that final HOH. You had a much better chance against me but you blew it and it might have blown your chance of winning. It was a move this game needed. So why do you deserve it? I really don't know who to give my vote to so I look forward to your responses. Good luck and congrats!  |
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Post by Milk on Nov 17, 2016 13:58:10 GMT -5
Stan, you're stupid asf, just imagine thinking the way you do, so sad...yikes ! So my question to you is, how do you manage your life while being as stupid as you're ?
The other one, you are the fakest person I've encountered in a forum, you talk about playing an honest game yet your a** loves to kiss everyone's a** then talk the most sh*t about them behind their back. You talk about having a good social game (b*tch where) but yet you've had it easy as hell, you've known most of the people in the game and had somewhat of a relationship with most of them and you still had a hard time, so in my eyes your social game is worst than Jon's jury management, speaking about that, you suck at managing the jury as well. You made – ∞ smart and strategic moves, and the moves you do claim were smart are dumb asf. What else ? oh yeah the only thing you have for you is the "competition", but I wouldn't be too proud about that because who wants to be known for being a beast in "how fast can I type this" or "how long can I do this" on a forum...smfh. Also, Imma really enjoy you kissing pretty much the entire jury's a** for the next whatever duration until the results are posted.
My vote is still in the air, I have no idea which turd am I supposed to vote for. You both suck, and don't deserve this. Next.
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Post by Dewie890 on Nov 17, 2016 14:35:10 GMT -5
Final 2, please keep your response to each juror in one post (one post for Donald's, one post for Jon's etc.)
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Post by DScott on Nov 17, 2016 16:09:48 GMT -5
Stan, you're stupid asf, just imagine thinking the way you do, so sad...yikes ! So my question to you is, how do you manage your life while being as stupid as you're ? The other one, you are the fakest person I've encountered in a forum, you talk about playing an honest game yet your a** loves to kiss everyone's a** then talk the most sh*t about them behind their back. You talk about having a good social game (b*tch where) but yet you've had it easy as hell, you've known most of the people in the game and had somewhat of a relationship with most of them and you still had a hard time, so in my eyes your social game is worst than Jon's jury management, speaking about that, you suck at managing the jury as well. You made – ∞ smart and strategic moves, and the moves you do claim were smart are dumb asf. What else ? oh yeah the only thing you have for you is the "competition", but I wouldn't be too proud about that because who wants to be known for being a beast in "how fast can I type this" or "how long can I do this" on a forum...smfh. Also, Imma really enjoy you kissing pretty much the entire jury's a** for the next whatever duration until the results are posted. My vote is still in the air, I have no idea which turd am I supposed to vote for. You both suck, and don't deserve this. Next. Gonna post this again lol. Danny you claim to never care about games but throw a b*tch fit in every game you play. Go f*ck yourself! Felt even better the second time  |
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Post by Josh on Nov 17, 2016 16:36:21 GMT -5
I honestly have no questions for the final two. You guys were two of my best judys in this game. So we'll see the outcome after the votes are cast. Good luck to you both. And may the best man win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 17:56:20 GMT -5
All I want you to do is tell me how each juror member can improve for future fgs.. im not asking for you to acknowledge anything I said in the paragraph lmao. Dont kiss a** in your answer either, I need you to personally tell each juror member what they need to do in order to get to finals like you.. thanks &goodluck. Dscott I like you but ur too nice. tell me 3 negative things about each juror. also rank each juror based on how much u like them. thanks fellas!!! Fair enough Don. Josh- you lack social game. I'm not saying it's bad, but had you not told me during the Alaina/Stan eviction that you considered me a threat and were hesitant to NOT evict me, then I wouldn't of had the plan to tie the vote for you to go. Joe- you especially lack social game. I enjoyed the character you put on but the amount social compared to mine wasn't enough due to Ty voting to keep me over you in the 3-2 vote. Don- there was not much wrong with the way you were playing. You lost by 1 second but if I were to say anything it's you getting caught up in your lies. If anything just lie better or don't create unnecessary lies. Mel- you were way too dependent on comp wins. The clock was ticking on you and what you would need is a solid social game with other people that could win comps instead of burdening yourself with all the wins. Danny- I don't ever see you winning here, especially if I play. I wouldn't allow it. Ty- almost flawless I'll admit since you didn't hit the block until final 5. But the only thing you need to work on is competition wins. If you were clutch from final 4 on you probably would've won. Jon- basically the same as ty, except you need to make moves of your own to show the jury what you did in the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 18:01:11 GMT -5
Stan: In games it's always good to have a special move that changes the game or that the rest of the house can respect, but you blew your only chance at having one. I continuously told you that David would win if he made final 2 against anyone, yet you took the easy way out and didn't have the balls to make a move that I would have. So, please explain to me why you made a dumbass move? And if you mention anything about needing to make the final 2 for sure then you'll def lose my vote when we both would've beaten ty in the final HoH. I did not make a dumbass move in my opinion. If anything these jury questions prove I made the RIGHT choice. Evicting Ty was beneficial due to his lock in 3 votes he would've had from Danny Mel and Joe possibly. I did not want to risk that even it wasn't true. After Ty's eviction I knew I was going to be in the final 2 regardless of winning the competitions not because I am a layup, but because my social game was so strong and the fact you didn't want David in the final 2 with you. |
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Post by DScott on Nov 17, 2016 18:19:11 GMT -5
I'll also like to thank Dewie and Phil for begging me to play lolll. Hmm I guess ill kick start this.. My personal opinion is this season wasn't that great. I think it started out strong but then got boring af right before merge.. It was definitely alot of power shifts tho. This is like the first bb season where there wasnt one cut clear comp beast and everyone was pretty much in the running to win.. usually we saw someone who soley dominates in the physical aspect all season...(Alice/Brooke/Nate) but this season didnt have that & that's interesting to me tbh lol. on to the finalist .. congrats yahh, . i'll take into account everything that happens this final and if I see some bullsh*t then I will remember that when deciding to vote. Do not take recognition for sh*t you didnt do, im not f*ckin around. I will deadass kill ur vote if I see u do that sh*t. Just had to get that out the way. Now considering that you two made it to the end I guess its safe to sat that we should have all played the way you two did.. Stan .... Looking back on your game Im trying to think of moments where you shined or stepped out the box and I dont remember any. Infact the only things I remember you doing was voting me out and being a horrible ally/friend. Deadass we didnt start talking game seriously till after the Josh vote. Im not here to ask you to explain your moves or gameplay though, im sure alot of other people will already ask you that.. All I want you to do is tell me how each juror member can improve for future fgs.. im not asking for you to acknowledge anything I said in the paragraph lmao. Dont kiss a** in your answer either, I need you to personally tell each juror member what they need to do in order to get to finals like you.. thanks &goodluck. Dscott I like you but ur too nice. tell me 3 negative things about each juror. also rank each juror based on how much u like them. thanks fellas!!! Ok Don, I’m gonna go in order of how much I like them with three negative things., this is impossibly tough lol. 1. Josh, he checks out of games too easily, has tunnel vision, relies on comps instead of actually messaging people and having a social game. 2. Don, asks me jury questions meant to ruin me lol, gets bored and ruin his game, too loyal which causes you to have this complex where you don’t wanna betray any of your friends and thus you don’t want to play 3. Ty, emotional, barely talks to me, ummm never married lurker 4. Jon got no filter, wanted me out in the beginning of the game 5. Mel, you play so hard too quickly, take things people say and tell other people (didn’t do this to me though), paranoid in the game 6. Danny, you’re a d*ck, you know you’re a d*ck, you think you’re above God. Or some sort of God of Dicks that you are trying to compete with for being the biggest d*ck 7. Joe, I feel you gave up too easily in this game; you ruined a perfectly good alliance and made enemies out of people you didn’t have to. We never worked out our differences |
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Post by DScott on Nov 17, 2016 18:20:17 GMT -5
First off, like to say all around great hosting from Dewie and Phil. Finally a game that didn't seem to drag on! Onto the questions i have... Stan: In games it's always good to have a special move that changes the game or that the rest of the house can respect, but you blew your only chance at having one. I continuously told you that David would win if he made final 2 against anyone, yet you took the easy way out and didn't have the balls to make a move that I would have. So, please explain to me why you made a dumbass move? And if you mention anything about needing to make the final 2 for sure then you'll def lose my vote when we both would've beaten ty in the final HoH. David: I got nothing bad to say. For the most part you played a stand up game and werent skirmish like stan was. You gave me straight answers whether they were hard to hear or not. I respect that! I'd just like to know what you believe was the one move that got you to the final 2? I feel there are so many moves and relationships that got me and well all of us to final 3, probably biggest being my closeness with Stan. However, to get to final two it was all on me. I felt Stan would throw the HOH, I don’t know if you felt that as well; because it would be hard for him to choose between us. Also, if you won HOH you were taking Stan. So the only way I was making the final 2 is if I won that HOH. I was ready to go forever on the endurance lol. |
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Post by DScott on Nov 17, 2016 18:21:06 GMT -5
First of all, I would like to thank Dewie and Phil for rigging this game for David Anyway, on to the questions. For Stan:In the beginning it seemed as though you were riding Kenny's coattails and floating through the game with no real allies and after Kenny was evicted, I presume you began riding David's coattails because I didn't see any real gameplay from you. Please tell me, in detail, what moves YOU made (not the moves your allies made) to get yourself to this point. For David:I've disliked you since almost day 1 of this game because of how condescending you are but now is not the time to talk about that. I want you to describe to me, in extreme detail, the moves you made and the path you took to get here. I don't just want a "My social game was good" answer, I want details. Thank you both and good luck. This is gonna be long. Day 1 I formed a 4 person alliance with Josh, Ty and Linus. All 4 of us knew we’d work together, so technically anyone could have made the pm though. I wanted that first HOH especially because while I already had allies, it would force the people I didn’t know to interact with me. It would also allow me to attempt to take out someone I couldn’t trust in Joey. Of course Joey won veto, so then my target was the only person left; Duncan. He talked to me the least and was part of none of my plans. This HOH win led to Jon speaking to me the first time which was obviously important later. I also spoke to Mel a bit which also mattered because of how much power she had in the future. There was some discussion in my group about voting Joe out, which I shut down because I promised you that you were safe. The second week was not great Kenny won HOH and with Linus being pretty inactive, there wasn’t much to do to save him. Plus, he was on the block against you and we had that final 3 you made with me and Alaina. It was not a great spot to be forced into and sadly Linus was voted out. Week 3 was the most important week of the game, with Mel nominating Kenny and Stan and Joe mentioning the imaginary 5 person alliance. Those fake alliances are always great for my game. They force you to work with people completely since people already think you are in an alliance. Yes I had convos with Kenny and Stan prior, however this was the moment we really all started working together. Plus even with this fake alliance formed on me, I could still work with my original allies. I wanted Alaina to stay though. Not only that Danny reached out to me, to tell me that everyone was against me, who was working together, who created the rumor etc. He ended up wrong about every part; however I was able to use that info to cement who I was working with even more. I knew I had to win the next HOH, because with the fake alliance being screamed about I’d be on the block next for sure. Plus, it would allow me to take out someone definitely against me. Since I still considered Joey my biggest comp threat, He was nominated and finally voted out. Plus, me and Jon talked and he promised he wouldn’t nominate me or Josh if he won. These next two weeks were tough with Mel and Joe winning HOH back to back. However, my always solid relationship with Mel and me winning veto when Joe nominated me kept me safe. Plus, these weeks were good because I spoke to Jon a little more and while I was voting him out both times we were able to build up trust amongst each other. My former alliance with Josh and Ty was strained, with Josh serving as an in between and me basically having no idea what was happening with Ty. Thus, with Josh gone; Stan became my closest ally and Jon brought up a final 3 between three of us. Of course I jumped on it, I knew how close Jon was to Stan and he would never betray him and I had complete and utter trust in Stan. The next HOH Ty won and Joe was voted out, yeah I mentioned names to Ty; but he seemed to already have his plan down. I think I told him that unlike others I wanted Don to stay. However, Don was nominated too. Nonetheless, it was another week of me being safe and the only person that really wanted me out was voted out. Danny won HOH and took out Don; I was nominated and while there was a lot of talk this week about people’s intentions. Even while I was on the block all 4 votes didn’t go to me. I knew at this point I could chill competition wise and probably throw most and still go far, however that isn’t my intention and I like to be in control of my destiny in the game. Luckily, my number 1 Stan won HOH and in my opinion the biggest comp threat Mel was voted out. Throughout these votes, I Jon and Stan would always discuss who to vote out. It would usually be a pretty quick, who? This person is the best at comps discussion. The next week was crucial. When I looked at the jury I saw at that point two guaranteed votes for Danny, plus another in the house. I had to win that HOH and take him out. If he won HOH yes I would of stayed, however part of my final 3 would be voted out. Part of the people I could actually beat in the end. He asked me and I told him I would vote him out/nominate him. It was some convo, the one the next day with Ty wasn’t much better. I only nominated Ty, so Danny would have no votes/veto to save him. I had to make this move to guarantee final 3, especially because now I had to depend on my allies at final 4 because I couldn’t play HOH. Luckily my trust in Stan paid off and he kept me, even after Jon wanted me voted out. The final HOH I had to win as it was the only way I would make final 2. One of the things I wanted to do in this game was not only never be in jeopardy but stick to the word I gave out, I wanted to get Ty to final 4, once Jon and Stan became a final 3 that was my goal. When I and Stan had a final 2, I knew I would never drop him. I could have passed on that HOH win at 5 and not upset anyone, but I came to this game to make moves and have a constant say in the path I was on. I was happy I was able to do that. |
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Post by DScott on Nov 17, 2016 18:22:18 GMT -5
Princess is back and after finding my suitor, Dewie, we decided it's time to extend the royal family. So I look forward to knighting one of you tonight.. So let's get started (◕‿◕✿) David: We came into this game together and unfortunately we are leaving without each other. I was just a useless pawn and number to you and I feel like you played the f*ck outta me. I said my weaknesses were that I'm too loyal and too trusting, and you proved that right. You are no different than the guys of our tribe on Inferno Island. Matter of fact, you're worse than them. I know I'm suppose to ask a question, but you answered everything I need to know about you and where you stood during our discord conversation that night of you nominating me. So just like the answer you gave me, I'll answer the same about you asking for my vote... I don't know, we'll see. Stanislaus: AZ REPRESENT!! You were always upfront and honest with me, so let me be with you. You were absolutely pathetic during the final HOH. Like, why should I vote for you to win with that performance? Also, why do you deserve it over David and what are big moves you made? Because the gameplay this season was relatively boring and safe. There were moves you could've made that would've been bold and respectable, but you didn't go through with them. I told you straight up David was gonna plow you so hard in that final HOH. You had a much better chance against me but you blew it and it might have blown your chance of winning. It was a move this game needed. So why do you deserve it? I really don't know who to give my vote to so I look forward to your responses. Good luck and congrats! I’ll be completely honest here. Ty I am sorry you feel like that, I never considered you a number to be honest because I didn’t feel you were working with me. When Linus lost we barely spoke and all interaction was basically Josh talking in between us. Early on I was told by Danny that you would vote me out, that you would go with the numbers. Don’t be upset with Danny, he didn’t want to talk about you and he let that slip. Probably my fault for not reaching out to you to talk about this. Maybe if we talked more, things could have been different. |
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Post by DScott on Nov 17, 2016 18:22:54 GMT -5
I honestly have no questions for the final two. You guys were two of my best judys in this game. So we'll see the outcome after the votes are cast. Good luck to you both. And may the best man win. Love you Josh |
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