Big Brother Season 2: Finale

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Nov 16, 2016 19:06:00 GMT -5 Joey said:

For Stan:
In the beginning it seemed as though you were riding Kenny's coattails and floating through the game with no real allies and after Kenny was evicted, I presume you began riding David's coattails because I didn't see any real gameplay from you. Please tell me, in detail, what moves YOU made (not the moves your allies made) to get yourself to this point.

Before kennys eviction I was almost aligned with everyone. You not realizing that atleast proves how well I was able to hide my alliances with people. I also did NOT ride David's coattails considering I evicted his number 1 ally in josh.

I'll explain that vote. I saw the opportunity to vote out Josh so what I did was tell people to tie the vote. I made SURE I was one of the people to evict Josh. Not only did it re attach myself with Jon since I voted to evict him over Kenny, but I knew that David would forgive me and Don wouldn't mind, ON TOP of voting alongside Mel and going with the HOH(you Joe) wishes on getting who you wanted out. It did not make me look bad in anyone's eyes and everyone started hating Don.

With Ty winning HOH I atleast scraped by initial nominations despite him being extremely hesitant in not putting me up. Due to Don winning I was on the block but my social with Don Jon and David was enough to save me from eviction.

Danny won the HOH next HOH and I knew I was going on the block with Don. When Jon won even he was wavering on using the pov on me. I was able to convince him to use it on me to guarantee my safety 100%.

I won HOH after and despite what I said in my speech about wanting Danny out, I knew fully well my alliance of ty Jon and David wanted Mel out instead. So I would talk to them with the intent of wanting Danny out until they would give reasons to why Mel should go instead, so I "agreed" to it knowing she was going to be gone the moment final nominations were made. The reason for Danny to be publicly hated was so everyone would feel comfortable thinking I would only be going after him when I actually wanted him to stay until final 5.

David won next and I knew I wouldn't hit the block at all, even if ty or Danny won pov he would put Jon on the block over me. There was no point in Danny staying any longer and I built a relationship with ty so Danny was next to go.

At final 4 I TOLD Jon to nominate me instead of nominating David since he 100% would have kept me off the block. I needed this to happen for a couple of reasons.

1) I needed to be on the block with ty just in case he won pov. I would have tag teamed with him saying "how dare those two try to pull a fast one on me" and ty would have evicted David.

2) i needed David to feel as comfortable as possible with Jon so as to not possibly evict me. Had he been nominated then won who knows, I didn't have a deal with him right then and there so he could've evicted me.

Final 3 I knew I was making the end so I did not care enough to win. David would keep me from our final 2 promise made and Jon would keep me in fear of losing to David in the final 2.

In my opinion I think a made a lot of moves to get myself here.

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Nov 17, 2016 12:18:57 GMT -5 Ty said:

Stanislaus: AZ REPRESENT!! You were always upfront and honest with me, so let me be with you. You were absolutely pathetic during the final HOH. Like, why should I vote for you to win with that performance? Also, why do you deserve it over David and what are big moves you made? Because the gameplay this season was relatively boring and safe. There were moves you could've made that would've been bold and respectable, but you didn't go through with them. I told you straight up David was gonna plow you so hard in that final HOH. You had a much better chance against me but you blew it and it might have blown your chance of winning. It was a move this game needed. So why do you deserve it?

I really don't know who to give my vote to so I look forward to your responses. Good luck and congrats! 

if there would be anyone that someone would perceive me as "a** kissing" it would be you. Now let me clarify that I'm not here to do that, but you are someone I consider a friend and want to get to know more after the game ends, you do live in Arizona after all.

Anyway, as I've said earlier, I may have looked pathetic, but it was extremely apparent I threw the final 2 hoh comps because I did not feel like creating another potential person to hate me in the jury, as well as knowing I was going to make final 2 anyway I didn't want the blood on my hands.

I think I deserve to win over David because I actually played the game in all 3 aspects (comp wins, social, and strategy).

Comp wins- both wins I had were critical to MY OWN game. Not anybody else's. Winning HOH and getting Mel evicted solidified a better percentage of myself David and Jon winning future comps.

Me winning pov got me into the final 3 for sure knowing id make final 2. I did not want to evict you ty but I had to because you did not piss ANYONE off in the jury. Hell I probably would've voted for you if you made it depending on your answers.

Social- I don't really need to explain that. Me making final 2 and surviving 3 evictions proves that.

Strategy- I've explained this as well regarding how I got rid of Josh, made sure my allies weren't skeptical of me at all times, and getting rid of people who I knew would most likely beat me in the final.

Thank you for the question ty.

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Nov 17, 2016 13:58:10 GMT -5 Milk said:

Stan, you're stupid asf, just imagine thinking the way you do, so sad...yikes ! So my question to you is, how do you manage your life while being as stupid as you're ?

The other one, you are the fakest person I've encountered in a forum, you talk about playing an honest game yet your a** loves to kiss everyone's a** then talk the most sh*t about them behind their back. You talk about having a good social game (b*tch where) but yet you've had it easy as hell, you've known most of the people in the game and had somewhat of a relationship with most of them and you still had a hard time, so in my eyes your social game is worst than Jon's jury management, speaking about that, you suck at managing the jury as well. You made – ∞ smart and strategic moves, and the moves you do claim were smart are dumb asf. What else ? oh yeah the only thing you have for you is the "competition", but I wouldn't be too proud about that because who wants to be known for being a beast in "how fast can I type this" or "how long can I do this" on a forum...smfh. Also, Imma really enjoy you kissing pretty much the entire jury's a** for the next whatever duration until the results are posted.

My vote is still in the air, I have no idea which turd am I supposed to vote for. You both suck, and don't deserve this. Next.

if Jamie rides the salt truck then this man owns the salt company God DAMN.

Read my other stuff I've already stated I do not care if you vote for me to win or not. Next.

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Nov 17, 2016 16:36:21 GMT -5 Josh said:

I honestly have no questions for the final two. You guys were two of my best judys in this game. So we'll see the outcome after the votes are cast. Good luck to you both. And may the best man win.

thank you Josh.

[M]

Congratulations Stan and David on making it to the end of a game that was full of hypocrites. You all attack each other and me for lying and making alliances with each other, when you yourself are as guilty as any other player in this game. It was a messy game, and tbh I have a greater respect for Joey after playing this game, at least he is honest and tells it like it is. He doesn’t blame other people and owns his game. Something I haven’t seen either of you do yet.

Stan on many occasions you talked to me, you pretended to care what I was doing and how I was feeling, you were like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. When comps came around you tried to pump me for information and constantly told me how much you
trusted me and that I could rely on you to stay safe.

Let’s look at this little beauty shall we: “I wouldn't nominate you if I happen to win HOH whether you believe that or not. I've already stated my target in being Danny since he's already after me so you would be safe with me in a position of power”. You kept on at me for not trusting you, but hello…. let’s take a look at this one: “You have been nominated but you are not my target. Letting you know in advance”. Oh and the reason: “I was nominated by you before as well as getting your vote to be evicted so hopefully you understand why I am returning the favor here”. And tbh this was the clincher “so I "agreed" to it knowing she was going to be gone the moment final nominations were made”.


My questions for you are, did you ever tell the truth? Or was it all just one big act?


I value honesty and loyalty, as you know as you have seen me play before, was there ever one person whom you were actually loyal to for the whole game? If so, who was it? and I want to know if you would pick a friendship over a game? or would you toss away a friend to make the finals of a game?

David, you also talked to me on many occasions, you got mad at me for voting out your girlfriend, when all I did was nominate her, the whole game evicted her, but yet it was my fault, I really don’t get it. I was told that you would “come after me with everything you had” just because “I” evicted her, yet to my face you “acted” like you were a friend. You told me this: “Next time if you have power, please nominate me. I’d always rather lose than Alaina or Josh”. BUT when you had the chance to pull Josh off the block and save him, you chose to save yourself. I don’t get how your attitude changed?


I recently found out that your so called “always solid relationship with Mel” really was just “you pretending to be my friend to my face and talking sh*t behind my back”. This game is about lies and allies and trying to get to the end without f*cking up relationships with potential Jurors, something I think you forgot about.

At the end of the day my questions for you are the same as Stan: did you ever tell the truth? Or was it all just one big act?


I value honesty and loyalty, as I told you at the start of this game, was there ever one person whom you were actually loyal to for the whole game? If so, who was it?


From the way I saw you treat people you have been friends with for a long time I understand why you would lie to me, but tbh I lost a lot of respect for you watching your disdain and lack of loyalty for your real friends. I want to know if you would pick a friendship over a game? or would you toss away a friend to make the finals of a game?

I came into this finale thinking I was going to vote for one of you to win, but after finding out some rather interesting facts I actually had changed my mind and was going to vote for the other one. After reading your answers to the other Jurors questions, I found myself second guessing that decision as well. I am not bitter at anyone in this game, contrary to popular belief, I enjoyed playing, and came in with a “this is just a game, I am going to play it my way and just see what happens” attitude. I never ever thought I had a chance of winning, which is why I had nothing to lose and could play as recklessly as I wanted. I made some real and genuine friends whom I trusted 100% and they made this whole thing worth playing. But this is not about me....

this is your chance to own your game and prove to me that you deserve my vote.

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Nov 18, 2016 3:04:29 GMT -5 M said:

Stan on many occasions you talked to me, you pretended to care what I was doing and how I was feeling, you were like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. When comps came around you tried to pump me for information and constantly told me how much you
trusted me and that I could rely on you to stay safe.

Let’s look at this little beauty shall we: “I wouldn't nominate you if I happen to win HOH whether you believe that or not. I've already stated my target in being Danny since he's already after me so you would be safe with me in a position of power”. You kept on at me for not trusting you, but hello…. let’s take a look at this one: “You have been nominated but you are not my target. Letting you know in advance”. Oh and the reason: “I was nominated by you before as well as getting your vote to be evicted so hopefully you understand why I am returning the favor here”. And tbh this was the clincher “so I "agreed" to it knowing she was going to be gone the moment final nominations were made”.


My questions for you are, did you ever tell the truth? Or was it all just one big act?


I value honesty and loyalty, as you know as you have seen me play before, was there ever one person whom you were actually loyal to for the whole game? If so, who was it? and I want to know if you would pick a friendship over a game? or would you toss away a friend to make the finals of a game?

You want honesty? Sure.

You pissed me OFF nominating myself and Kenny as well as making Alaina the renom. Now I will admit I said some mean stuff in my confessional, but that's only because I didn't get my way. As the game progressed we did build our friendship back somewhat, but you need to realize Mel that you do things that annoyed the hell out of me. You tend to ignore what people send to you until it is beneficial for YOU to respond.

As for me nominating you it is completely justified with the fact that you nominated me first. That's how the game works. I had an excuse to put you up without fault.

Now me telling you that you were safe and that Danny was my target, that was just in case you won pov. Had you won I know for a fact you would not have nominated me so I needed to cover myself In every scenario possible I could think of.

People need to understand that in order to win this game you need to lie to anyone and do whatever it takes. I own that I lied to everyone. The only person I would never lie to was Kenny but people got rid of him so after his eviction I vowed to make the end by any means necessary.

If you end a friendship over a game then were you really friends to begin with?? Nate, my closest friend during big brother all stars, evicted me at final 3 so he could have the guaranteed win and won. He is still my friend after that so that should go to show that people need to set aside gameplay and friendships.

I will gladly continue talking to you as a friend, but if you refuse then I do not know what else to say. Good luck in voting.

[DScott]

Nov 18, 2016 3:04:29 GMT -5 M said:

Congratulations Stan and David on making it to the end of a game that was full of hypocrites. You all attack each other and me for lying and making alliances with each other, when you yourself are as guilty as any other player in this game. It was a messy game, and tbh I have a greater respect for Joey after playing this game, at least he is honest and tells it like it is. He doesn’t blame other people and owns his game. Something I haven’t seen either of you do yet.

Stan on many occasions you talked to me, you pretended to care what I was doing and how I was feeling, you were like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. When comps came around you tried to pump me for information and constantly told me how much you
trusted me and that I could rely on you to stay safe.

Let’s look at this little beauty shall we: “I wouldn't nominate you if I happen to win HOH whether you believe that or not. I've already stated my target in being Danny since he's already after me so you would be safe with me in a position of power”. You kept on at me for not trusting you, but hello…. let’s take a look at this one: “You have been nominated but you are not my target. Letting you know in advance”. Oh and the reason: “I was nominated by you before as well as getting your vote to be evicted so hopefully you understand why I am returning the favor here”. And tbh this was the clincher “so I "agreed" to it knowing she was going to be gone the moment final nominations were made”.


My questions for you are, did you ever tell the truth? Or was it all just one big act?


I value honesty and loyalty, as you know as you have seen me play before, was there ever one person whom you were actually loyal to for the whole game? If so, who was it? and I want to know if you would pick a friendship over a game? or would you toss away a friend to make the finals of a game?

David, you also talked to me on many occasions, you got mad at me for voting out your girlfriend, when all I did was nominate her, the whole game evicted her, but yet it was my fault, I really don’t get it. I was told that you would “come after me with everything you had” just because “I” evicted her, yet to my face you “acted” like you were a friend. You told me this: “Next time if you have power, please nominate me. I’d always rather lose than Alaina or Josh”. BUT when you had the chance to pull Josh off the block and save him, you chose to save yourself. I don’t get how your attitude changed?


I recently found out that your so called “always solid relationship with Mel” really was just “you pretending to be my friend to my face and talking sh*t behind my back”. This game is about lies and allies and trying to get to the end without f*cking up relationships with potential Jurors, something I think you forgot about.

At the end of the day my questions for you are the same as Stan: did you ever tell the truth? Or was it all just one big act?


I value honesty and loyalty, as I told you at the start of this game, was there ever one person whom you were actually loyal to for the whole game? If so, who was it?


From the way I saw you treat people you have been friends with for a long time I understand why you would lie to me, but tbh I lost a lot of respect for you watching your disdain and lack of loyalty for your real friends. I want to know if you would pick a friendship over a game? or would you toss away a friend to make the finals of a game?

I came into this FTC thinking I was going to vote for one of you to win, but after finding out some rather interesting facts I actually had changed my mind and was going to vote for the other one. After reading your answers to the other Jurors questions, I found myself second guessing that decision as well. I am not bitter at anyone in this game, contrary to popular belief, I enjoyed playing, and came in with a “this is just a game, I am going to play it my way and just see what happens” attitude. I never ever thought I had a chance of winning, which is why I had nothing to lose and could play as recklessly as I wanted. I made some real and genuine friends whom I trusted 100% and they made this whole thing worth playing. But this is not about me....

this is your chance to own your game and prove to me that you deserve my vote.

They only reason they could vote for her was because you put her on the block. When all you had to do was honestly tell Josh I'm gonna nominate Alaina but you didn't. I was also upset that week you were constantly throwing Josh under the bus. Besides I was more upset about the pm that you sent her after, that you shouldn't of. I was your friend outside the game. I still am your friend. Inside it, of course I was coming after you. Didn't you notice I tried to barely talk game with you, I almost never brought it up.

The reason I didn't save Josh was because he had checked out of the game and didn't want to play anymore. I never forgot about that. Most of the things you were told I said I didn't say. Especially because every time I was upset with you, I let you know.

I never once lied to Jon in this game, or Stan or Ty I agreed to a final 4 and than barely talked to him. Josh did all the talking. I never lied to you, because you know I was pissed. I don't get this shock now that I was upset. I never made any game deals with you.
I was loyal to Josh from the start, Stan and Jon after Josh lost. I gave them my word and was honest with them. Josh was supposed to go all the way with me. However, once he was gone I never wavered from Stan and Jon.

I'm sorry but if you barely talk game with someone in a game, you can't be expected to randomly bend over backwards when they come to you at final 5. I assume you are talking about Milk. Danny lied to me all game. Everything he told me wasn't true, maybe he believed what he said, doesn't make it true though. I honestly told him what I was gonna do, and got blackmailed and threatened. A friend doesn't act like that over getting nominated. I tried talking to him, but I also knew he would drop me in a second for you and Ty and others. Who are my real friends? Because I've known stan and don basically as long.

I would never toss away a friend to make a final because I don't believe that's a thing. That person is obviously just a game friend if they can't separate the two. Plus this final 2 should prove how much I stuck to my word in this game. Jon was supposedly the jury goat but I took Stan because I told him I would. If you ask Ty I already quit two games for friends, I didn't. However, my friends always come first. I'm famous on vevmo for being part of every "friendship final", that everyone hates.

What am I supposed to own here? I showed zero lack of loyalty to these supposed "real friends", especially because zero loyalty was shown to me in return. Ill own that I showed loyalty to those I gave it to and they know that. Ty is the only person that has a claim I screwed him, maybe I did and again I apologize for that.

[Dewie890]

Nov 18, 2016 3:04:29 GMT -5 M said:

I came into this FTC thinking I was going to vote for one of you to win, 

[Dewie890]

Ok, @desertfox and DScott

Please use this time to make your closing statement.

After the closing statement, jurors start casting your votes. I would like to have the final vote reveal tomorrow night! so the sooner I get the closing statements and votes, the better!

[DScott]

I loved playing this game and again I have to thank Dewie and Phil for casting me. Each of you in this jury was involved in what made this game what it was and I thank you for that. I feel all three aspects of my game were impressive. Competition wise, I won the most comps. Social wise I received zero votes against me when I was on the block. Obviously now some people are upset but that’s because I chose to stick to the word I gave out. Strategy wise, the moves I made constantly kept me safe even while my allies were being picked off. I watched Linus, Alaina, Kenny and Josh lose. However, I was never in jeopardy, I always felt safe. I controlled my fate throughout and I’m here in final 2 against a great guy in Stan. Did I play perfect? No, of course not, but who does (Besides Briq in survivor lol). I worked with the hand I was dealt and I made it here. Thanks again everyone and good luck Stan.

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I've played this game three times. All three times I have made final 3 and two times final 2. I also achieved my goal of making sure I was the most well rounded when it comes to competition wins, social game, and strategy due to the reasons above. I fought hard to get here by making the best social game one could have. Once again, it's a game so even if you do not vote for me I will not take offense to it. Good luck to you as well David and good luck in voting everyone.

[Dewie890]

Jurors: Josh, Joey, M, Donald, Milk, Ty, Jgrubl

It is your time to shine. Please PM me and Phil your final votes! Put a lil something you would say as you put your key in! Do not reveal your vote with this little statement or else I will not use it.

[Dewie890]

Due to some jurors taking their sweet time, I will not be able to post results tonight.

[Dewie890]

Votes will be revealed and a winner will be crowned tomorrow night! Probs like 9PM site time.

[Dewie890]

*With the finalists done speaking, the jurors get up to cast their votes*

Jgrubl : I feel like both of you played similar games. So with that being said my vote goes towards to person who earned it and didn't expect to be chosen.

Ty : Both of you guys deserve to be where you are at. This was a tough decision but I have to go with what and how I feel. Congratulations to you both.

Milk : Congratulations on your very undeserved win, you deserve it !

M : "Lies and deception are all just part of the game, I get that, but what people forget is that there is a fine line between game and personal." In saying that my vote goes to the person who was willing to own their game and admit their mistakes, after all there is no such thing as a perfect game.

Joey : I'd rather not vote for either of you because you're both sh*t, especially David. f*ck you David.

Donald : Voting the person who sucks less

Josh : ....

Alright, I will start to reveal the votes in minutes! Who will win? @desertfox or DScott ? Are the finalists a couple of buttfaces and already know the votes? Who knows?!? Let's see what happens!

[Dewie890]

THE VOTES
David - 1
Stan - 0

[Dewie890]

THE VOTES
David - 1
Stan - 1

[Dewie890]

THE VOTES
David - 1
Stan - 2

[Dewie890]

THE VOTES
David - 2
Stan - 2

[Dewie890]

THE VOTES
David - 3
Stan - 2