Survivor Malaysia: Final Tribal Council

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Final Tribal Council
Aladmaho Vs Lan

The final two walk into the tribal council area on the thirty-ninth day and set their torches at the back before sitting down by the fire.

We'll now bring in the members of the jury...

Max, Jonas, Daquan, Javi, Anthony, Mel, Setsu, and Don.... voted out at the last tribal council.

Congratulations final two. You have made it as far as you can in this game. But now the power shifts to the eight people that each of you probably had a hand in taking out of this game. Tonight, the jurors will vote for who they think deserves the title of Sole Survivor of Survivor: Malaysia. They will each get a moment to ask whatever they need to in order to make their decision on who they want to win, but before this happens, the two of you may each make an opening statement.

Jurors, do not ask your questions until either A) both finalists have made an opening statement, or B) they do not all make statements before 3 PM site time tomorrow. If it gets past 3 PM and they haven't all made statements, you may go ahead and ask.

Also, since I know all of you like to talk and make sure everyone knows you're still relevant, I'm going to make it a rule that you can't post more than two follow up responses after your questions, and you also may not comment on opening statements (unless it is part of your question) or questions/responses that you are not involved in. If you do, I will delete your post. Also all pre-jury boots will not speak in this thread or I will delete your posts.

mace20 Helen of Troy daquanwizard iraheto bones0227 M Setsu-Maria Ghomes Donald @aladmaho Lan

[Lan]

Hey guys! It's been a long, awesome journey and at the start I didn't imagine myself getting all the way to the F2. Some of you have been watching from the sidelines for quite a while, so I guess you'll have a lot to say. I have to thank everyone who put their time and effort into this game, particularly the jury and of course, Nate and Stan. I've really enjoyed this game, no matter how this final tribal council turns out. 

Coming into this game, I was planning on playing a much different game than I ended up playing. I'm actually kind of a control freak generally, and my strategy tends to be playing from the top, trying to control a solid alliance and get to the end. This game didn't allow for that for me, so I ended up having to shift gears and play the game in a different way. At the start of this game, I thought I would be an easy target. The majority of the tribe was American and I'm Dutch, I live in a different time zone, and I was on a holiday near the start of the game, missing some time to get to know my tribemates. So when Jackson came up with a majority alliance that included me, I just went with it. Either it would work out and I'm safe for a few votes, or Jackson's the first to fall if the alliance backfires. However, it ended up backfiring on me as well, since Jackson was going around saying I'm in his pocket or whatever. It was at this point that I decided that I was going to have to lay low for a while. I kept in touch with Jonas, since it was clear that he was part of the people in power on Miri, and made sure to show him that I was loyal to him, or at the very least, not a threat to his game. I didn't talk much with other people on the tribe, since I was scared my association with Jackson would haunt me and people would see me as an overplayer as well. When I started to get the idea that Jonas wasn't that interested in working with me, I started talking with Javi and to a larger extent Max. Max and I quickly established a bond, and he filled me in on everything going down on Miri, and he had my back. Max felt like him, Jonas and Javi were the people most in control of Miri, but he was scared of Javi and particularly Jonas going into the merge. I found myself an idol, and when we merged, I felt like I had a pretty good prospect of going far. However, I was scared that if I would have stayed loyal to Miri, I would either get voted out when I was no longer needed, or dragged to the end as a goat. So Max and I wanted to get rid off Jonas, since it was pretty clear at that point that he was in charge of Miri. We didn't think the final 11 was the right moment yet, but Max went and try to lay the groundwork for a Jonas blindside by contacting some of Kalang.


This ended up biting him in the a**, and part of Miri and Kalang got together to vote him out. After this vote, Javi and I felt more on the outside and we established a bond. We tried getting Kalang against Jonas again, but when it became clear that it wasn't going to work, and with Javi winning immunity, the target landed squarely on myself. Javi and I both played our idols to make sure I was safe, and if the vote wasn't split our votes and Anthony's would be enough to get Jonas out. Then Greg got out and when Javi won immunity again, I felt like my number could be up, because we were still up against a majority. Daquan started working with people like me outside his alliance, and despite me liking him, I felt like us going along with voting him out would pretty much be my only option of staying. I certainly wasn't going to draw rocks for anyone but Javi at that point. When Javi's challenge run ended at F7, I knew that there was very little I could do. There was a half-hearted plan to try to split the votes, but that would require the other side trusting Anthony, and I couldn't see that happening. At F6 I thought it might actually be good for me if Anthony gets out, since that leaves me in the F5 with two pairs that are loyal to one another. However, Don approached me about a plan to get rid off Mel, who I saw at the biggest threat in the game. With her having idols and targetting Anthony, that vote was going in my favor no matter the outcome. When Mel did end up playing the idol, both pairs tried to pull me in. I won my first immunity, which made sure I could target whoever I wanted, and I ended up siding with Alad and Don, who I saw at the lesser threats compared to Mana and Mel, who had both won challenges and came from an underdog position. I made sure to talk with Mana beforehand, so that I could work with him if needed at the F4. If it was a F3, I would like Mana having my back so that if he wins immunity he might be swayed to vote with me and make a tiebreaker, or if it was a F2 like it ended up being, to try and split up the final pair in the game. I won my second immunity, so I didn't have to fear a tiebreaker. Mana ended up losing the tiebreaker, so my plan of making the F3 with the two people I considered the weaker parts of the pairs was foiled. I won the F3 challenge and I had to decide who to bring to the end. Despite Don's insistence that Alad played a better social game than him and that he would have brought me over Alad, I felt like Don played the stronger, more dominant game compared to Alad, and I made my decision based on comments during the game about Don and Alad. 

I feel like I played a flexible, strong game. With the players this season, it was clear that if you stood out as a threat, the tables would turn on you in a second, so I tried to always make sure there was someone in front of me to take the bullet, until the very end of the game. I was pretty strong in challenges and won three at the end, but I didn't rely on challenges to get me there. I did have to use an idol, but that was the only time the entire game that my name has come up, and I don't think I would have played that risky at the start of the merge if I didn't have the idol granting me safety. I feel like I've played the game in the best way I could have with the players this season, and I think I'm a deserving player. 

So now it's up to you guys. I hope I've given you enough insight into my game for some probing questions, or to drag me, or to do whatever you want. I'll do my best to respond to any and all comments. I've enjoyed playing with every single one of you, and I've got no hard feelings towards any of you. Thanks for making this a great journey, and good luck to Alad as well. 





 

[Nate]

Inb4 this FTC lasts 7 days.

[Nate]

If it reaches 24 hours after Stan's post and Alad hasn't done his intro, jurors can ask questions.

[Deleted]

Well hello ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to thank my homies Stanley and Nathaniel for giving me the opportunity to play this game. I had no idea what I was getting myself into to. I came into this game only knowing one person, as opposed to coming into any other FG with multiple friends. I'd like to thank my homies Vova, E, Jonas, and Kenny for helping me through this process and giving me advice on playing a game I knew nothing about.

My game started off simple, I was relying on the strength of our tribe to win all the challenges so I wouldn't have to worry about going home which worked out extremely well. I was flying solo for the most part until I was approached by Jonas asking me if I wanted to work with him, Don, and Daquan. Me and Daquan had history before this game, he was the only person that I knew coming into this game. So after I accepted his offer and started working with him, I didn't feel that much safety from this alliance because I felt I was the last to find out I about it. But after me and Jonas grew closer everyday, I started to feel more safe. So we continued to win comps and I had nothing to worry about... until the merge. I then found myself talking to people like Jackson, Javi, Lan, and Max because we wanted to stay Miri strong. For the most part we still had our core alliance of (Jonas, Me, and Don) so the new kalang tribe we worked together to protect the original Miri tribe members.

After we merged all together I made connections with other people like Mel and Setsu. At this point me and Jonas was pretty close in the game and he was the only one I trusted fully. Then we get hit with a double idol and I lose two of my key alliance members. Me and Don put two and two t I had th act fast so I talked it over with Don and we aligned ourself with Mel and Setsu and told them everything that we knew. I knew I could trust Mel because Jonas had told me she was a very loyal ally and a very strong player so it was a win/win for both me and Don. After realizing that Mel was an extremely huge threat and would beat be 10/10 in f2, I targeted her. I went to Anthony and Ian so that we'd have the numbers to get rid of her. After a failed attempt of getting her out because of her idol play. The second time, we succeeded and Me and Don stuck with Lan throughout the rest of the game. I knew I wouldn't win the last comp, cause comps weren't really my thing. So I told Lan that I'd throw the last comp to him if he'd take me to f2 with him, and he agreed to those terms. So after getting rid of Setsu, I knew I had a free walk to the finals because both Don and Lan would take me.

This game was a huge learning experience for me and I never in a million years thought that I'd make it to f2 in a game that I knew nothing about with people I did not know. I was a weak comp player I'll admit that, but I more than made up for it for with my social game. I talked to every single juror in this game to assure my safety and I have no recieved one vote in this game. I love Don like a brother but he'll be the first to admit that I dictated 80% of the decisions we made as a duo. Thanks to all the people who've been apart of this game to make it LITTT. I've learned something from every single one of you and have taken something from every single person's game. Thanks again to the homies Don, Jonas, Kenny West, Nate, Vova, E, and Stan. Sorry for the delay, YEEZY SEASON IN FULL EFFECT.

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You may all start asking questions now. Remember what I said up there

[Donald]

Okay congrats to the both of you obviously. I am astonished because both of you were perceived as"sheep" or "goat" who were basically just assests to another big player but that is clearly not the case. You both were essential to this seasonand painted big pictures.. I have a few questions for the both of you (sorry Stan/Nate yall didnt specify how many questions per post).

Lan I'll start off with you.

In your opening statement you claim that playing a physical game wasnt your strategy well...,

Had you not won so many comps near the end do you honestly see yourself sitting at final 2? If not you then who do you see replacing you?
I also have another question, was Daquan working with Javi?
And my final question (for now) What key moves did I make that would of made your final 2 harder against me than Alad..

Alad on to you..
You say that you learned alot from alot of different people, whats the biggest lesson you learned this game and from whom?

Why do you believe you should win over Lan?

And my last question (for now) You were definitely more under the radar was that your initial strategy or do you feel like bigger personalities shadowed you?

[Setsu-Maria Ghomes]

Okay so I have no issues here with either of you. For me I want to make this very clear, my vote is pretty much deicided but I am going to give you both one last chance to send my vote your way?

Lan: Thanks buddy for all you did. We kinda had this, alliance of convinance, even if it started awhile back so I have two questions for you, one when did our alliance become 'real' to you, and if you won the final 3 immunity who would you take and why, me or alad?

Alad: I think your a loyaly guy bro and a good kid. My question for you is tell me what your argument would be to defeat Don at a final tribal had you been in that siutstion.

Good luck both of you@

[Helen of Troy]

Alright guys I don't really have a question its just more or less a statement and its more directed at the jury than it is at the two of you. Alad I think you played an amazing game, I don't care what some of these people think their opinions are clouded by bitterness and friendships .  If Lan wins tonight you will be robbed, you played by far the greatest game of anyone out here and you deserve to win. You came into this game having never seen an episode of survivor in your life and you managed to find yourself in the f2 having to this point played a literally perfect game. You have never been anyone target, you have never gotten a vote, you have never been in any danger that's something that is very impressive. What you lack in physical game you more than make up for in social and strategic game, you noticed the big threats were getting taken out very fast (Jackson, Max, Myself) so you laid low. I worked with you my entire time in this game and you were not just a puppet you contributed key parts to conversations. Your social game was by far better than Lan's, where he had to rely on challenge ability and idols to stay in this game you had neither and made it just as far a feat far more impressive in my opinion. Lan would not be sitting here right now if he did not have the idol, Lan would not be sitting here right now if he did not win immunity you did neither and you are still here that's more of a testament to your game than any words I can say.


Some of you may look at Lan's idol play and look at his challenge wins and think "This guy is a good survivor player" but I don't think that is entirely accurate. Lan is a good survivor competitor, he isn't a good player. Every member from Miri can testify to these claims. Lan in the premerge was never in the loop, he was the last one to know about everything. Moving into the merge Lan did something he had already done in the premerge, he clung onto Max like he did to Jackson. Lan was in the dark on the max vote off, the following tribal when I was eliminated he had 6 votes cast against him. He should have gone home had he not played an idol. Some of you may look at his idol play as a good move or one that takes talent, but I'm sorry this isn't real survivor there was no talent in finding that idol it was luck and there was no talent in playing it when he already had it confirmed that he was getting votes from setsu. Following that tribal I was no longer in the game but yet the story line of "Lan the follower " continues. Javi said something to the extent of "Lan did whatever I told him to do, that was my move not his." That to me is very telling and extremely believable I mean why would Lan have changed all of a sudden? He let someone else call the shots over and over again.

The conclusion to all if this is I ask you jurors to make this jury vote the way this entire season has been for Lan. Jackson, Max, Javi they were all ahead of him. Lan wanted to play the number two game and hide, so jurors lets give him the number two spot and vote for Alad to win Survivor: Malaysia.

If I have to ask a question it is for Lan, is anything I said inaccurate? Do you wanna despite any of my claims?

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Feb 12, 2016 19:00:27 GMT -5 Donald said:

Okay congrats to the both of you obviously. I am astonished because both of you were perceived as"sheep" or "goat" who were basically just assests to another big player but that is clearly not the case. You both were essential to this seasonand painted big pictures.. I have a few questions for the both of you (sorry Stan/Nate yall didnt specify how many questions per post).

Lan I'll start off with you.

In your opening statement you claim that playing a physical game wasnt your strategy well...,

Had you not won so many comps near the end do you honestly see yourself sitting at final 2? If not you then who do you see replacing you?
I also have another question, was Daquan working with Javi?
And my final question (for now) What key moves did I make that would of made your final 2 harder against me than Alad..

Alad on to you..
You say that you learned alot from alot of different people, whats the biggest lesson you learned this game and from whom?

Why do you believe you should win over Lan?

And my last question (for now) You were definitely more under the radar was that your initial strategy or do you feel like bigger personalities shadowed you?

I think the biggest lesson I learned was from you, Mel, and Jonas. Loyalty is everything and you need those people in the game that you can always trust no matter what. You can't win every single comp so you need those people you can trust won't say your name and will have you back. You need those people you can talk game with. I believe I should win over Lan because I feel I had to work harder in this game to get where I am than he did. I had to talk my way through this game with people I didn't know and gain the trust from complete strangers so that I wouldn't be vulnerable. I was vulnerable to be voted out every single week since the merge because I've never won a comp. But at the same time, ive never been a target or never had a vote casted against me, because my social game was flawless. Yes my initial strategy was to fly under the radar, I felt I was looked at as a target because I'm a "vet" compared to most of the people who played this game, and I didn't know what I was doing lol. so yes I wanted to stay as lowkey as possible until I could figure out where I was in this game and wtf was going on.

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Feb 12, 2016 19:57:56 GMT -5 Helen of Troy said:

Alright guys I don't really have a question its just more or less a statement and its more directed at the jury than it is at the two of you. Alad I think you played an amazing game, I don't care what some of these people think their opinions are clouded by bitterness and friendships .  If Lan wins tonight you will be robbed, you played by far the greatest game of anyone out here and you deserve to win. You came into this game having never seen an episode of survivor in your life and you managed to find yourself in the f2 having to this point played a literally perfect game. You have never been anyone target, you have never gotten a vote, you have never been in any danger that's something that is very impressive. What you lack in physical game you more than make up for in social and strategic game, you noticed the big threats were getting taken out very fast (Jackson, Max, Myself) so you laid low. I worked with you my entire time in this game and you were not just a puppet you contributed key parts to conversations. Your social game was by far better than Lan's, where he had to rely on challenge ability and idols to stay in this game you had neither and made it just as far a feat far more impressive in my opinion. Lan would not be sitting here right now if he did not have the idol, Lan would not be sitting here right now if he did not win immunity you did neither and you are still here that's more of a testament to your game than any words I can say.


Some of you may look at Lan's idol play and look at his challenge wins and think "This guy is a good survivor player" but I don't think that is entirely accurate. Lan is a good survivor competitor, he isn't a good player. Every member from Miri can testify to these claims. Lan in the premerge was never in the loop, he was the last one to know about everything. Moving into the merge Lan did something he had already done in the premerge, he clung onto Max like he did to Jackson. Lan was in the dark on the max vote off, the following tribal when I was eliminated he had 6 votes cast against him. He should have gone home had he not played an idol. Some of you may look at his idol play as a good move or one that takes talent, but I'm sorry this isn't real survivor there was no talent in finding that idol it was luck and there was no talent in playing it when he already had it confirmed that he was getting votes from setsu. Following that tribal I was no longer in the game but yet the story line of "Lan the follower " continues. Javi said something to the extent of "Lan did whatever I told him to do, that was my move not his." That to me is very telling and extremely believable I mean why would Lan have changed all of a sudden? He let someone else call the shots over and over again.

The conclusion to all if this is I ask you jurors to make this jury vote the way this entire season has been for Lan. Jackson, Max, Javi they were all ahead of him. Lan wanted to play the number two game and hide, so jurors lets give him the number two spot and vote for Alad to win Survivor: Malaysia.

If I have to ask a question it is for Lan, is anything I said inaccurate? Do you wanna despite any of my claims?

thank you kind sir. thanks for trusting me and helping me get to where I am. you da GOATEST

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Feb 12, 2016 19:46:35 GMT -5 Setsu-Maria Ghomes said:

Okay so I have no issues here with either of you. For me I want to make this very clear, my vote is pretty much deicided but I am going to give you both one last chance to send my vote your way?

Lan: Thanks buddy for all you did. We kinda had this, alliance of convinance, even if it started awhile back so I have two questions for you, one when did our alliance become 'real' to you, and if you won the final 3 immunity who would you take and why, me or alad?

Alad: I think your a loyaly guy bro and a good kid. My question for you is tell me what your argument would be to defeat Don at a final tribal had you been in that siutstion.

Good luck both of you@

my argument would've been that I was one making the decisions out of the two of us. and you can vouch on that one too. if you go back and read our group PMs with me, you, Mel, and Don. I was the most vocal out of me and Don. I'm not taking anything away from him because he played a great game and won that clutch challenge. but his social game was not up to par with mine and I was a better decision maker out of the two of us.

[mace20]

Guys, I just want to say that I believe that both of you should be congratulated for making it this far. Survivor is a hard game and it is hard to get to the end without some excellent gameplay. Now that I've said all that, let me be a complete a**.

Alad, while I was both in the game and in the jury, you seemed like a total joker. It looked like you were not trying to make your own moves, instead just idling along. Even your tribal council statements, were all complete jokes. You were someone, who even though I didn't talk to you much, I wanted to take you to the end. This is because I didn't think you were playing the game and you were an easy person to go up against in FTC. Honestly, my opinion hasn't changed, I think you played a game very similarly to Mathew from Survivor: The Amazon. You got to the end by not being a threat or big player, but you don't have a chance of winning against anyone. So man, prove me wrong! I want to know why you played this game harder than Lan, Don, Mel, Jonas and Me. Also, tell me why you aren't a goat!

Now Lan, honestly, along with Alad, I planned to take you to the FTC. It's funny that the 2 people I wanted to come to the end with got there but I didn't. Now man, I thought your game was good, especially how you moved from a position in a minority alliance to a position in the end game. My question for you is, what was the move you made in the game which cemented your spot in the FTC?

Good luck guys!

[M]

Congrats Lan and Alad.

TBH there is only one person who would have gotten my vote 100% - and he isn't sitting there. And it wasn't because we had a Pre-made alliance cause I didn't even know I was playing this game until an hour before it started, and it wasn't because apparently we had a f2 from day one - it was because I knew he was the only one who would have my back 100%. He was honest with me, we discussed sh*t, we made decisions together, we argued, we wanted to go in two different directions at certain points in the game - hell he was even inact for a great part of the pre-merge game - but at the end of the day - I knew that he was with me no matter what. We played as allies, but we also played our own games.

Now my vote is up in the air - at this point in time I have no idea who will get it.

I do have some statements and some questions.....



Alad - You said:

I think the biggest lesson I learned was from Don, Mel, and Jonas. Loyalty is everything and you need those people in the game that you can always trust no matter what. You can't win every single comp so you need those people you can trust won't say your name and will have you back.

Yet you were not loyal. So you obviously didn't learn anything from me - in fact both you and Don both claim to have been the mastermind behind trying to vote me out. Who was it? And tbh - if you both knew I was playing an idol - why flip at that point when you could have "pretended" to still be loyal and vote with me to ensure Anthony went - then take me out at the next tribal council. That would have been a bigger blindside than simply turning on me when I was not going anywhere. That - in my eyes - would have been a game winning move.

For Both Alad and Lan:

Who told you I had an idol? or two? 

Only two people knew I had the merge idols - and tbh I only found the second one right before I needed it.
NO one else knew I had them and tbh if I knew someone was guaranteed to play an idol to save himself I wouldn't be voting for them.

Lan:

Honestly - you didn't promise me anything - we talked - but I talked to everyone in this game. Still you didn't really do much to earn my vote.

Why should I vote for you to win?

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Feb 12, 2016 21:31:05 GMT -5 mace20 said:

Guys, I just want to say that I believe that both of you should be congratulated for making it this far. Survivor is a hard game and it is hard to get to the end without some excellent gameplay. Now that I've said all that, let me be a complete a**.

Alad, while I was both in the game and in the jury, you seemed like a total joker. It looked like you were not trying to make your own moves, instead just idling along. Even your tribal council statements, were all complete jokes. You were someone, who even though I didn't talk to you much, I wanted to take you to the end. This is because I didn't think you were playing the game and you were an easy person to go up against in FTC. Honestly, my opinion hasn't changed, I think you played a game very similarly to Mathew from Survivor: The Amazon. You got to the end by not being a threat or big player, but you don't have a chance of winning against anyone. So man, prove me wrong! I want to know why you played this game harder than Lan, Don, Mel, Jonas and Me. Also, tell me why you aren't a goat!

Now Lan, honestly, along with Alad, I planned to take you to the FTC. It's funny that the 2 people I wanted to come to the end with got there but I didn't. Now man, I thought your game was good, especially how you moved from a position in a minority alliance to a position in the end game. My question for you is, what was the move you made in the game which cemented your spot in the FTC?

Good luck guys!

i understand where you are coming from 100% bro, and i agree with you, those people did work harder than i did. but look where they are now, you know there is a such thing as overplaying the game, and i didnt want to do that. there were multiple times in the game where i couldve pulled a huge "game changing move" but it might not have been best for my game. i mean yeah they look good on paper, but i only make the moves necessary for my game. why ruffle feathers i dont need to? i certainly was no follower,  i think a lot of people feel you need to win comps to be able to dictate and not look like a follower. this isnt the case though. i've had a hand in every single one of these elimination and knew the reasoning behind every single elimination. i prefer to work smarter instead of harder. i know it may not look like i deserve to be here, but i played a safe and smart a** game. i was always aware of my position in the game and never in this game have i felt threatened. some people need to make HUGE moves just to get by, but my moves were lowkey and perfect.

[mace20]

Feb 12, 2016 23:55:50 GMT -5 @aladmaho said:

Feb 12, 2016 21:31:05 GMT -5 mace20 said:

i understand where you are coming from 100% bro, and i agree with you, those people did work harder than i did. but look where they are now, you know there is a such thing as overplaying the game, and i didnt want to do that. there were multiple times in the game where i couldve pulled a huge "game changing move" but it might not have been best for my game. i mean yeah they look good on paper, but i only make the moves necessary for my game. why ruffle feathers i dont need to? i certainly was no follower,  i think a lot of people feel you need to win comps to be able to dictate and not look like a follower. this isnt the case though. i've had a hand in every single one of these elimination and knew the reasoning behind every single elimination. i prefer to work smarter instead of harder. i know it may not look like i deserve to be here, but i played a safe and smart a** game. i was always aware of my position in the game and never in this game have i felt threatened. some people need to make HUGE moves just to get by, but my moves were lowkey and perfect.

Man, without sounding like a a**hole, I disagree. Now don't get me wrong, I think you played a great game, you have to play a great game to be sitting here before us. The problem is, your small moves aren't apparent to the early jurors or the people who weren't in alliances with you. I completely understand that you may have made some lowkey moves but I want you to explain to the jury why your lowkey moves are better than Lan's big moves. Some people in the jury compared your game to Natalie White and I think that is a pretty apt comparison. The only problem is that Lan's last name isn't Hantz, therefore he doesn't have a ton of enemies. So, I have 1 questions for you, why are your lowkey moves better than Lan's big moves?

Also man, I hope i don't seem like I'm attacking you. I just want to make the most informed vote and TBH I don't know much about your game. Maybe we can share a beer and talk about the new Yeezy album when this is all over.

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Feb 12, 2016 22:12:48 GMT -5 M said:

Congrats Lan and Alad.

TBH there is only one person who would have gotten my vote 100% - and he isn't sitting there. And it wasn't because we had a Pre-made alliance cause I didn't even know I was playing this game until an hour before it started, and it wasn't because apparently we had a f2 from day one - it was because I knew he was the only one who would have my back 100%. He was honest with me, we discussed sh*t, we made decisions together, we argued, we wanted to go in two different directions at certain points in the game - hell he was even inact for a great part of the pre-merge game - but at the end of the day - I knew that he was with me no matter what. We played as allies, but we also played our own games.

Now my vote is up in the air - at this point in time I have no idea who will get it.

I do have some statements and some questions.....



Alad - You said:

I think the biggest lesson I learned was from Don, Mel, and Jonas. Loyalty is everything and you need those people in the game that you can always trust no matter what. You can't win every single comp so you need those people you can trust won't say your name and will have you back.

Yet you were not loyal. So you obviously didn't learn anything from me - in fact both you and Don both claim to have been the mastermind behind trying to vote me out. Who was it? And tbh - if you both knew I was playing an idol - why flip at that point when you could have "pretended" to still be loyal and vote with me to ensure Anthony went - then take me out at the next tribal council. That would have been a bigger blindside than simply turning on me when I was not going anywhere. That - in my eyes - would have been a game winning move.

For Both Alad and Lan:

Who told you I had an idol? or two? 

Only two people knew I had the merge idols - and tbh I only found the second one right before I needed it.
NO one else knew I had them and tbh if I knew someone was guaranteed to play an idol to save himself I wouldn't be voting for them.

Lan:

Honestly - you didn't promise me anything - we talked - but I talked to everyone in this game. Still you didn't really do much to earn my vote.

Why should I vote for you to win?

i was loyal, ask don, jonas, and daquan until he turned on us. there was a point where i was loyal to you and setsu until don opened my eyes to how big of a threat you actually were. you cant say i wasnt loyal to you, i was throwing comps just so that you or someone else in our alliance would win. ill admit, don brought the idea of eliminating you to my head but i was the one who went out and recruited lan and anthony to jump on board with the plan. i decided to flip at that point because i knew that it win over lan's trust and show them that we'd vote with him and we'd have the numbers if you got rid of one of them. getting rid of you at that point was smarter for me then because i didnt want to risk you winning immunity and being safe for another week then eliminate lan and me and don lose out flip vote. no one told me you had an idol. i asked you multiple times if you had one, my dumbass even asked stan if there was one still in play thinking that he'd answer me. i was never 100% sure if you had an idol i thought you or setsu had it but was never positive.

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Feb 13, 2016 0:13:20 GMT -5 mace20 said:

Feb 12, 2016 23:55:50 GMT -5 @aladmaho said:

i understand where you are coming from 100% bro, and i agree with you, those people did work harder than i did. but look where they are now, you know there is a such thing as overplaying the game, and i didnt want to do that. there were multiple times in the game where i couldve pulled a huge "game changing move" but it might not have been best for my game. i mean yeah they look good on paper, but i only make the moves necessary for my game. why ruffle feathers i dont need to? i certainly was no follower,  i think a lot of people feel you need to win comps to be able to dictate and not look like a follower. this isnt the case though. i've had a hand in every single one of these elimination and knew the reasoning behind every single elimination. i prefer to work smarter instead of harder. i know it may not look like i deserve to be here, but i played a safe and smart a** game. i was always aware of my position in the game and never in this game have i felt threatened. some people need to make HUGE moves just to get by, but my moves were lowkey and perfect.

Man, without sounding like a a**hole, I disagree. Now don't get me wrong, I think you played a great game, you have to play a great game to be sitting here before us. The problem is, your small moves aren't apparent to the early jurors or the people who weren't in alliances with you. I completely understand that you may have made some lowkey moves but I want you to explain to the jury why your lowkey moves are better than Lan's big moves. Some people in the jury compared your game to Natalie White and I think that is a pretty apt comparison. The only problem is that Lan's last name isn't Hantz, therefore he doesn't have a ton of enemies. So, I have 1 questions for you, why are your lowkey moves better than Lan's big moves?

Also man, I hope i don't seem like I'm attacking you. I just want to make the most informed vote and TBH I don't know much about your game. Maybe we can share a beer and talk about the new Yeezy album when this is all over.

absolutely! and what big moves has lan made? i must be missing them? if it werent for daquan turning on our alliance and telling lan we were voting for him, the infamous idol play would've never happened and that was the only big move that i can think of. if im not mistaken it was daquan's big move, not lan's. my small moves were bigger than lan's because i had to rely on them to get me further in the game. lan was a comp beast, not a real strategic game player not to take anything away from him. i had no comp game at all, but i had my words and i knew exactly what to say at all times. i know you arent trying to attack me man, i expect these questions! this was a learning experience for me and i hadnt realized that i was supposed to be making moves that stood out, i was just making moves that i needed to get me to where i am now. lan could not have did what i did, if it wasnt for daquan and his comp wins, i dont think lan would be where he is right now. 

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i asked you multiple times if you had one

TBH Alad - you didn't ask me once. The only time idols came up was right before the tribal I used them. And that was Don.

[Lan]

Feb 12, 2016 19:00:27 GMT -5 Donald said:

Lan I'll start off with you.

In your opening statement you claim that playing a physical game wasnt your strategy well...,

Had you not won so many comps near the end do you honestly see yourself sitting at final 2? If not you then who do you see replacing you?
I also have another question, was Daquan working with Javi?
And my final question (for now) What key moves did I make that would of made your final 2 harder against me than Alad..

First of all, thanks for the kind words, much appreciated. Onto the questions: 
- I think at F5 the only impact my immunity had was to make sure that Mel could be targetted. Had Mel won immunity there, I could easily see her being the person making the streak to the end instead of me. However, I think that Setsu would probably have gone that tribal had Mel won immunity instead of me. So whoever wins immunity there, I'm in the F4 I think
- I'm not sure about the F4. It seemed like you and Alad were fine with going to the F3 with me, so I think as long as Setsu didn't win immunity I was getting to the F3, and it would probably be a tie if Setsu did win immunity
- At F3 Alad was throwing it, and you said you would have taken me, so if you were being honest there I would have been sitting here anyway. 

So to answer your question, I think there's a pretty good chance I still make it here. My immunities weren't so much to keep myself safe, but to get out the biggest possible threats at that point. However, if I don't make it here, it's either because Mel's taken my spot as the streak player, or you if you won the F3 and decided to bring Alad out of loyalty. 

I think your biggest key move that convinced me was that you were the one to tell me about Mel's idols and your willingness to get her out. At that point Alad thought it was too soon, and it took a lot of convincing to get him on board. Contrary to what Alad thinks, when Alad reacted to Anthony's suggestion for the three of us to band together, you, Anthony and myself were already going to vote Mel. So that was something where you should get credit over Alad. But what I think would have made it harder for me, is that you were the person that was approaching other people about plans and strategy talks, which made it seem like you were the driving force out of you two. The reason you managed to rack up all those votes throughout the season was that people saw you as the threat and the leader, and Alad as your follower, and even if reality is more balanced than that, Survivor is all about perceptions.