vergi1
Fresh Meat
Yea, idk what to do here anymore.
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Post by vergi1 on Jun 4, 2017 16:52:49 GMT -5
Whoa whoa there's an ER app and I've been trynna use browser this whole time? As Jonas said, ruthless Also thank you Kristina and Sammy for the answers, I think I worded it wrong since I don't believe anyone else should be there instead of you since you made it there on your own accounts. I meant like who in the jury played a winning game as Sammy covered nicely. Good luck to you both
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Post by Brooke on Jun 4, 2017 17:09:05 GMT -5
If you've already asked a question feel free to vote.
Anyone know Mitch? Can get him on?
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Post by SammySosaTV on Jun 4, 2017 17:18:57 GMT -5
Sammy, do you think Kristina is a goat? Give me 3 reasons and explain why her game is better than yours. Both, please compare each juror, including yourselves and your final opponent to a big brother contestant and briefly explain why. If you are unfamiliar, compare with animals (tho bb contestants is preferred) I think that if I were to call anyone a goat, that'd be a supreme lack of perspective on my part. In my opinion, I really have no authority on stating whether a player is easily beatable in the end because I don't know the whole story. I don't know every move that Kristina made, and I don't know exactly what the jury thinks about her. I can guess, sure, I kind of have to. But I think there are two types of people who have the authority to declare whether someone is a goat or not: the jury and the viewers. But, if you do have to have my opinion, no, I don't think Kristina's a goat at all. She's made her fair share of really smart plays that brought her to this point. I think she had a lot of really good breaks, to be sure, but I have too. tl;dr: nah, I don't think Kristina's a goat. The 3 regards where I think Kristina played better than me: 1. I think her endgame was pretty top notch. While Kristina started off incredibly poorly and nearly went home (particularly around Ashley's eviction), she found a way to recover under Jonas's wing and she coasted to final 5 with ease. 2. Whenever Kristina was up against anyone as a final nominee, Kristina always found a way to stay. I think this is a credit to her social game and her ability to seem as a non-threat, when compared to people like Ashley and Gucci especially. 3. I also feel like Kristina has a great ability to adapt. She was absolutely thrown into a lot of hurdles from the beginning of this game, and she found a way to jump over those hurdles, make solid alliances, and she found her way to the end, for good reason. JURY/BB PLAYER COMPARISONS! -Mitch, you remind me of a BB3 Jason Guy-type player. I think your social game was great and your strategic game wasn't too bad either. I think the sole reason you did go out during the early phases of jury was because we all recognized that you were such a great player and such a likable guy. -Nate is kind of like a Hayden Moss to me. I think he is very well skilled physically, and while less-nuanced people will think that's all he's got, Nate will show you that he's tremendous strategically as well as socially. There's a reason this fool won twice. -When I think of Jacob, I think of great social and strategic play. I think he represents an old-school player extremely well, so I'm kind of feeling a sort of less maniacal Danielle Reyes. He's smart, savvy, and quick on his feet when it comes to adapting to the flow of the game, and I think he had a great chance of getting much further in the game. -Honestly, Gucci reminds me of a Johnny Mac kinda guy. Deadass, Johnny Mac is my favorite player for so many reasons personality-wise. But talking strictly gameplay, Johnny Mac was able to be UTR despite there being no reason for him to actually be able to survive. He SHOULD'VE had a huge target on his back, but he was able to make great relationships and alliances with his phenomenal social game. He was winning competitions, making relationships, and thriving under the radar. As I said before, he was my pick to win at final 8. -Vergi's ability to seemingly transform his gameplay near the endgame reminds me a lot of Ian Terry. Vergi found himself nominated on day 1 (thanks to me whoops) because he was such a wildcard for me. Once he was able to survive that first vote, he was off and running and he literally only got better the more he went to the end. He won competitions, got around socially, and found himself in a power position before his eviction at final 5. -When I think of Jamie I think of strong social and under the radar play, so I gotta say Jordan Lloyd from BB11. I think there's a lot of reasons that Jordan Lloyd beat Natalie, and Jamie really exemplified all of those reasons for me. Under the radar to the point where you wouldn't have even known what hit you. Jamie didn't wrong a damn person in the jury, and that's why I had to take her out. Thanks for the questions C:
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Post by Brooke on Jun 4, 2017 17:36:29 GMT -5
Oh I just have missed Mitch's post on mobile.
Waiting on Jamie then.
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Post by Brooke on Jun 4, 2017 19:24:54 GMT -5
So if Jamie doesn't ask anything in the next 24 hours, then I'm calling it.
Kolle and Sammy, if you don't have any other questions to answer (other than if Jamie asks a question), feel free to say whatever else there is you need to tell the jury.
Then jurors if you know who you wish to vote for, send me your votes.
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Post by K on Jun 4, 2017 20:48:07 GMT -5
Kristina, list me all the moves you did that lead you to be here in the final 2. Give me three reasons why Sammys game is better than yours. Both, please compare each juror, including yourselves and your final opponent to a big brother contestant and briefly explain why. If you are unfamiliar, compare with animals (tho bb contestants is preferred) Thank you and good luck finalists!!! Thank you Mitch. All the moves I did to make it to finale 2? Starting with making good alliance with you and other vevmo people in week 1 Then obviously lot of times mentioned move that I decided to give my HOH win to Jonas in week 2 Then getting Jonas to join into our alliance in week 4 Then doing some damage control after Jacob and Jamie both tried to vote me out in week 5 against Ashley because both of them won HOH in jury phase and neither of them nominated me. Then won HOH and kept Jonas as my shield for next round, last HOH before finale HOH and getting rid of Vergi who was trying to get me out. And obivously whole game I had some type of relationship with everyone in the house. I said it before, I think my social game was one thing what kept me safe for so long Sammy game is better than mine? 1. I think he is an amazing competitor, he have won most comps and is definitely top player as competitor wise 2. He was able to get himself into right alliances in day one without any trouble and had nobody really gunning for him 3. He is just really sweet person if he wants to, so even if he was evicting some of the people he managed not to piss anyone off I am sorry Mitch, I have literally not watched single episode of Big Brother so I have no idea. I am going to do animals.... god its going to be awful Starting with out Mitch - BadgerBadgers are cute, loveable but dont let that fool you because they actually have really dominating personalities with lot of ambitions. Sammy - WeaselWeasel are smart, intelligent, conceited animals with charming manipulative personalities Jacob - Otter
Otters are small, witty, loving animals with positive energy but also little bit of self-doubt. Nate - Rooster
Roosters are taleneted, creative, attention-craving birds, who may be sometimes blunt but also honest and frank Vergi - Seal Lion
Sea lions are energetic, fun, sincere animals who can often be too overly confident Jamie - Bat
Bats are unpredictable, careful, creative, intelligent animals who like to fly under radar at night Gucci - Bear
Bears are out-going, likeable, confident animals who you dont want to face in argument because they are often blunt and never backs down. Kolli - Fox
Foxes are creative, sharp-minded, active, loyal animals who dent to have bad reputation and are often misunderstood
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Post by SammySosaTV on Jun 4, 2017 21:04:58 GMT -5
Sammy - WeaselWeasel are smart, intelligent, conceited animals with charming manipulative personalities this girl just called me a weasel
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Post by K on Jun 4, 2017 21:09:44 GMT -5
I mean... am I wrong
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Post by K on Jun 4, 2017 21:14:58 GMT -5
Going to post my finale statement tomorrow Hopefully then Jamie have asked something
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Post by ESchro09 on Jun 5, 2017 9:37:43 GMT -5
Just read through this. Any questions that I would have asked have already been asked. As for who I'm voting for. I think my mind is made up on who played the better game. Congrats to both of you in the final 2. Sammy you made a smart decision by not taking me to the final 2. Real life got in the way of the final HoH for me.
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Post by SammySosaTV on Jun 5, 2017 10:31:43 GMT -5
Thanks, Jamie.
To everyone else, I hope your questions and my responses cleared up or helped you with your decision.
I still have so much that I never mentioned. From my first HOH week, to the significance of Ashley’s eviction, my double eviction HOH, and me going for the safety at final 9, there was so much that I never had a chance to bring up because I felt it didn’t pertain to your questions enough.
If you’re still teetering on the edge of who you wanna vote for, if you’re confused about my motives for a specific vote, and if you wanna still ask me to talk about any of those things mentioned above, please do. I absolutely love talking about this season, it’s been such a wild ride for me, and I can truly say that I’ve never been more proud of a game I’ve played.
To me, there’s no doubt in my mind: this is THE most complete game I’ve ever played, on any website. I think I’ve conquered in all three aspects of the game: physically, I now have the record for HOH wins and I’ve won the most competitions this season. Socially, I made strong relationships on which I relied to go deep into the endgame. Strategically, I maneuvered and manipulated my way to the end, thinking about the benefits and consequences for each and every eviction. I went unnominated up until final 5, and I’ve never had a single vote cast against me.
Not only am I proud of myself strategically, but on an emotional level, I’m gonna have so many fond memories in my heart for these past few months. You will never find someone who was more passionate in a single game than I was for this game. I have combined over two hours of video diary rooms that I hope you all eventually check out, regardless of if I win this season or not.
I would stay up until 3am on school nights, talking strategy with people, doing competitions, making diary rooms, because I felt so passionate and I wanted to win this game so bad. Like I said, regardless of the outcome of this vote, I am still extremely proud of how I played this game, and if Kristina wins on a unanimous vote, then I still won’t feel like a loser.
When you cast your vote, though, I hope you cast your vote for who you feel played the better game. I know this is an obvious request, but in an era of external friendships, premades, cliques, vevmo vs. ER, some people do forget that this is indeed just a game.
And I could not have had any more fun in this game.
Thank you so much to Brooke, Mel, and all the rest who made this game so special. Whether I’m 2nd or 1st, I’m coming out of this a winner.
(SO SAPPY EUUUUGH don’t look at me..)
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Post by K on Jun 5, 2017 10:40:16 GMT -5
Oh well Sammy, secret is out. I guess its not quite what you were hoping for...Would have been great if it was bot right? And you could have used it? I mean after all, you dont think its cheating I guess it was "cheating" when it was good for trashing me, but glad it was cleared up. Every post you have made in this thread has been disrespectful towards me or any of the other people who have played the game. I thought I was going to be bigger person and focus on myself because I dont think its good look when finalist trashers their oppinent but I guess you did not think that. Or maybe its because its you dont have anything else to make your point? I mean how many times you can mention your ONLY game move you made this game and even that failed, right? I guess it makes sense to trash me then But let me clear up few things.. Lets have a look at your game move here, week when you decided to backdoor Jonas. I have to give it to you, you changing that game sheet was brilliant, I give credit where credit is due but everything else? Boy So why you failed? Lets look at it. Firstly, you did not nominate him but then you made sure he can not win POV. It all sounds great what happened after you found out he fell for your plan? You told him your answers, your time and rubbed into his face he is going to get backdoored. BEFORE you knew you won... why? Because if Jonas failed, there is noone else who can beat your right? Because whole game you have discredited every other houseguest, every time someone beat you, you thought they cheated. But Vergi here ruined your little plan and you rubbing backdooring into Jonas face gave him time to talk him out of it to use it. Like you said, Jonas is good with words but you still gave him time to save himself and he did. So no, not your miscommunication with Vergi is one to blame, its your cockiness. You thought nobody else could beat you, then you thought Vergi gonna do everything you want and then you gave Jonas enough time to save himself So that was an epic fail. What else you did? Ohh „helped“ to get Gucci out. But was it true tho? Lets have a look at this tea I got. So according to Jonas, you wanted me out that week because he had to told you to vote out Gucci. Dont believe me? I mean In case yall forgot, Gucci went after Jacob What else big moves you had? Nothing.... See I never understood why Jonas did not want to get rid off Sammy. Believe me, I tried to say to him multiable times Sammy needs to go but he was never on board. Now I totally can see it. Jonas was not scared to face Sammy in finale. Why? Because dude did not do absolutely anything in whole game! Only thing what is working for him is he won lot of comps, but so did Jonas. Every big move Sammy would have claimed was his, Jonas would have brought up receipts. Sammy was just Jonas sheep in this game and no big bad wolf was shown. Ohhhh I almost forgot your another trick, I dont deserve to be here because Dakota quit? Let me clear up things with Dakota situation. Fact is, yes Dakota quit that week but other things around this situation are just guesses. My opponent here is placing I would have gone home if Dakota would have not quit like these are facts... I did not ask Dakota to quit, I actually told him not to. After he quit, Brooke told us vote off still going to happen and I worked my butt off to assure I get Jonas and Jamie votes. So saying I dont deserve to be here because Dakota quit seems out of place. After Vergi did not use his POV and me and Dakota had to face each other, Vergi did told me I was going home because Jonas and him are going to vote me out. But that is not what Jonas told me. Jonas told me he is going to vote out Dakota and helped me to get Jamie to do same thing and she told me in the end she gonna keep me. So two people told me they are going to vote out Dakota. Since Dakota quit and voteoff did not happen, we do not know what actually would have happened but I do believe Jonas and Jamie would have kept me. I think Jonas told Vergi whatever he wanted to hear because Vergi did just save him by not using his POV. But me and Jonas had strong partnership half of the game and I did consider him one of my top allies. I really dont think he would have just voted me out like that. But would have he betrayed Vergi like that? Jonas did vote him out next week, after he just saved Jonas. IMO it kinda shows where Jonas head was at and being loyal to Vergi was not it... And another hand, if one of my close allies quits to save me, would not it sign of good social game? One of my allies thinks I deserve to be here more than them, so they quit so I can stay. How many people are able to say this that someone have done something like that to them? I really can not see how this can be holded against me since I did everything right in this situation and as it looks to me, I would have stayed anyways. So Sammy how about that huh? Want to talk about Dakota? Lets all remember how you gave your win to Dakota in chess POV (week when Nate was evicted) bc of... you liked him? Orrrr because Jonas told you? Honestly all members of jury have done more probably in one week that you in whole game. You had most wins and you did absolutely nothing. Because every week you have done something what Jonas asked you do 1. You voted for Mitch to get voted out bc he asked you t. How I know? Bc he asked me too but I decided to vote Mitch to stay 2. You have your POV win to Dakota bc Jonas asked you to in week when Nate was eliminated 3. You put Dakota next to Jacob bc he told you to 4. He told you to vote out Gucci altho you first wanted me out You are really great likeable person who wins lot of comps, but thats it. And honestly, I do like you as a person but if you coming for me, I am coming for you too and things need to be said. Both me and you played different games, lets respect that not drag each to the mud. Anyways enough of him, lets focus on me People may say only thing I did was playing for others, but thats not the case. I kept my allies close because I needed them. Yes, me, mitch, dakota and gucci worked closely almost whole game, every decision was like group one but after all I was the one who stayed over them. Why? I think there are multiable reasons but did have great social game. I loved my allies, but I had to look out for myself and did some things on my own. For example, everyone knows Ashley hates me but I offered her alliance and planned to work with her. After every Vevmo person was going after Tank because he voted off Manny, I was nice to him and he was happy that I was there for him. After people went off Kaitlyn almost every day, I was there for here to make her feel better. After Jacob tried to vote me off and keep Ashley, instead of being mad at him, I told him lets forget whole thing. After Jamie used her mystery prize on me to get me voted out instead of Ashley or when she voted me out instead of Gucci... I did not tell her to f*ck off, I still was nice to her and tried to work with her and formed friendship. After Nate was telling me yea I vote you out, I did not see it as my next target, I saw he is being honest and had great chats with him and tried to work with him. All of that was not because of me trying to save my allies. All of this was me trying to save myself. Be being selfish and played my own game. My whole game was about survival. Season started with strong message with Vevmo people are not welcomed here. Week after week it was all about survival and how to get myself out of this. Lot of first HOHs were based on luck or friendships and these were definitely not woking for my favor. Me and my allies worked our butts off to make it into next week. Then those mystery prizes came, then Aubree was two top players who did not like me. It was honestly a wild ride and making to jury seemed hard. But week after week it got better. My social game was keeping me safe, I made it to jury and now I am here. But did I do some big moves? That was not the game I was playing. Should have I? Maybe, but I focused more about social game. I was nominated 3 times and my social game saved my a** in these situations, not moves I played. My big moves would have not saved me when mystery prize but me in and another mystery prize cancelled two of my allies votes. It was my alliance with Jonas and Vevmo what saved me. It was my good relationship with tank what saved me because I decided not to be petty and was still nice to him after he voted out my good friend Manny. You can tell me I played safe game, hell my decision to keep Jonas as my shield was good example of that but I am not ashamed of that. I did what I had to do so I could survive and make it to the end. And I did! Because if I would have not kept Jonas that week, I am pretty sure I would have went home. What I did do was played smart, strategic, active social game. Starting with my decision to give my Hoh win to Jonas what formed into saving alliance, ending with me keeping Jonas as my shield. In between are all the great relationships I formed playing this game, all the decisions what I made, all the hard work I put into social game and my reward is placing myself in finale 2. Do I deserve to win? I think I do. I think I worked hard, I played great game and I made really smart strategic decisions. I mean all of these missions happened 5 am in my time My only downfall was that stupid group-changing thing, what should have not happened. But it did and I tried to prove my innocence and I found out that proboards.com provides plugging what shows you what users have viewed what thread but Brooke told me she already deleted that thread so it was useless. It was stupid, yes but I did not cheat and its up to every person theirselves if they believe me or not. There is nothing I can say or do more. People says nobody on Vevmo can win a game here on ER but here I am one of most disliked members sitting here in final 2. That should not only show what a good game I played but be a reason why I deserve to win this game But its all up to you 202mitch Nate Jacob Gucci Mane vergi1 ESchro09 Thank you Brooke for hosting this game. It was a great time. Like I have said many times before, it is and probably will be my best social game. Wheather I will become second or first, I am happy I made this far, I am proud of my game and I am leaving head high.
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Post by Brooke on Jun 5, 2017 10:43:34 GMT -5
Everyone send me your votes please so we can get this over with.
If anyone has anything left to say please do so.
But send me your votes asap!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 10:45:21 GMT -5
Jury: tl;dr
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Post by K on Jun 5, 2017 10:54:26 GMT -5
lol probably put you can only imagine how hard it was for me to write I think I have written more posts in english in this thread than ever in my life. so glad its over
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Post by K on Jun 5, 2017 11:03:58 GMT -5
Oh, it's not over, sweet pea. Good luck I am not gonna respond anymore. I said everything i had to say and I am done. I have exam tomorrow and real life to go to. I almost forget its an online game and got way too deep.
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Post by Nate on Jun 5, 2017 11:11:38 GMT -5
Is this over yet
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Kaitlyn
3-Time Champ
I definitely don't like you.
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Post by Kaitlyn on Jun 5, 2017 11:15:03 GMT -5
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Post by SammySosaTV on Jun 5, 2017 11:23:53 GMT -5
Oh well Sammy, secret is out. I guess its not quite what you were hoping for...Would have been great if it was bot right? And you could have used it? I mean after all, you dont think its cheating I guess it was "cheating" when it was good for trashing me, but glad it was cleared up. Every post you have made in this thread has been disrespectful towards me or any of the other people who have played the game. I thought I was going to be bigger person and focus on myself because I dont think its good look when finalist trashers their oppinent but I guess you did not think that. Or maybe its because its you dont have anything else to make your point? I mean how many times you can mention your ONLY game move you made this game and even that failed, right? I guess it makes sense to trash me then But let me clear up few things.. Lets have a look at your game move here, week when you decided to backdoor Jonas. I have to give it to you, you changing that game sheet was brilliant, I give credit where credit is due but everything else? Boy So why you failed? Lets look at it. Firstly, you did not nominate him but then you made sure he can not win POV. It all sounds great what happened after you found out he fell for your plan? You told him your answers, your time and rubbed into his face he is going to get backdoored. BEFORE you knew you won... why? Because if Jonas failed, there is noone else who can beat your right? Because whole game you have discredited every other houseguest, every time someone beat you, you thought they cheated. But Vergi here ruined your little plan and you rubbing backdooring into Jonas face gave him time to talk him out of it to use it. Like you said, Jonas is good with words but you still gave him time to save himself and he did. So no, not your miscommunication with Vergi is one to blame, its your cockiness. You thought nobody else could beat you, then you thought Vergi gonna do everything you want and then you gave Jonas enough time to save himself So that was an epic fail. What else you did? Ohh „helped“ to get Gucci out. But was it true tho? Lets have a look at this tea I got. So according to Jonas, you wanted me out that week because he had to told you to vote out Gucci. Dont believe me? I mean In case yall forgot, Gucci went after Jacob What else big moves you had? Nothing.... See I never understood why Jonas did not want to get rid off Sammy. Believe me, I tried to say to him multiable times Sammy needs to go but he was never on board. Now I totally can see it. Jonas was not scared to face Sammy in finale. Why? Because dude did not do absolutely anything in whole game! Only thing what is working for him is he won lot of comps, but so did Jonas. Every big move Sammy would have claimed was his, Jonas would have brought up receipts. Sammy was just Jonas sheep in this game and no big bad wolf was shown. Ohhhh I almost forgot your another trick, I dont deserve to be here because Dakota quit? Let me clear up things with Dakota situation. Fact is, yes Dakota quit that week but other things around this situation are just guesses. My opponent here is placing I would have gone home if Dakota would have not quit like these are facts... I did not ask Dakota to quit, I actually told him not to. After he quit, Brooke told us vote off still going to happen and I worked my butt off to assure I get Jonas and Jamie votes. So saying I dont deserve to be here because Dakota quit seems out of place. After Vergi did not use his POV and me and Dakota had to face each other, Vergi did told me I was going home because Jonas and him are going to vote me out. But that is not what Jonas told me. Jonas told me he is going to vote out Dakota and helped me to get Jamie to do same thing and she told me in the end she gonna keep me. So two people told me they are going to vote out Dakota. Since Dakota quit and voteoff did not happen, we do not know what actually would have happened but I do believe Jonas and Jamie would have kept me. I think Jonas told Vergi whatever he wanted to hear because Vergi did just save him by not using his POV. But me and Jonas had strong partnership half of the game and I did consider him one of my top allies. I really dont think he would have just voted me out like that. But would have he betrayed Vergi like that? Jonas did vote him out next week, after he just saved Jonas. IMO it kinda shows where Jonas head was at and being loyal to Vergi was not it... And another hand, if one of my close allies quits to save me, would not it sign of good social game? One of my allies thinks I deserve to be here more than them, so they quit so I can stay. How many people are able to say this that someone have done something like that to them? I really can not see how this can be holded against me since I did everything right in this situation and as it looks to me, I would have stayed anyways. So Sammy how about that huh? Want to talk about Dakota? Lets all remember how you gave your win to Dakota in chess POV (week when Nate was evicted) bc of... you liked him? Orrrr because Jonas told you? Honestly all members of jury have done more probably in one week that you in whole game. You had most wins and you did absolutely nothing. Because every week you have done something what Jonas asked you do 1. You voted for Mitch to get voted out bc he asked you t. How I know? Bc he asked me too but I decided to vote Mitch to stay 2. You have your POV win to Dakota bc Jonas asked you to in week when Nate was eliminated 3. You put Dakota next to Jacob bc he told you to 4. He told you to vote out Gucci altho you first wanted me out You are really great likeable person who wins lot of comps, but thats it. And honestly, I do like you as a person but if you coming for me, I am coming for you too and things need to be said. Both me and you played different games, lets respect that not drag each to the mud. First and foremost, my PMs with you after that competition were me trying to get incriminating information in case you actually did use a bot. Of course I think a bot is cheating. I knew if you were telling anyone about you finding a specific way to do a competition, you'd be telling Jonas. I'm not gonna say "hey, tell me how you cheated". Long story short, you did that competition differently than I did. I had every right to ask "now how did she beat me by 6000 points?". This wasn't me being cocky or arrogant, it was just common sense to wonder how. I now know that the method you used was in no way cheating, and I do regret being so pushy about knowing what it actually was. Your shady demeanor about not wanting to reveal it just made it that much more suspicious. Second, I appreciate you giving me a chance to talk about my other game moves that didn't come up in these questions. When I won the first HOH, I was nervous. I knew I had to play it out right and I knew that the first HOH could either crash and burn prejury, or go ridiculously deep in the game. For the first week, I had decided to let the flow of the game control my nominations. I think the biggest flaw of any first HOH is that they try to set the flow of the game themselves, instead of moving along with it. I told myself that I needed to sit back and let people come to ME. When people don't know you, they can do two things: avoid you, or they can get to know you. And when I got to know people, I inevitably got information about the game. I was told that there was a massive alliance of Vevmo folks. This was good to know obviously, but I also knew that I needed to approach it carefully. I didn't want to target the vevmo alliance because I knew that, from what I was hearing, they were too big to stand. I decided to not ignite war with the alliance, and I made two VERY conservative (at the time) noms in Vergi and Aubree. When Aubree won the POV and I renominated Manny, I'll be honest, I highly expected Vergi to go. But apparently Manny was related to Vevmo (I wasn't well-versed with who was actually from Vevmo), and the that first week was history. A lot of people thought that I had been a follower because I had backdoored a member of vevmo, but this isn't true. Me nominating Manny was simply because we hadn't talked. I was VERY conservative during my first HOH, and I wanted that first week to set the pace of my game. The next time I had power, I was with Dakota. At that point, I had severed ties with Kaitlyn and company just a week prior. And I wanna talk about my reasoning behind that vote: The reason I voted out Ashley during that vote was because I looked at the consequences in regards to my gameplay. At that point, I was in the middle and both sides were expecting me to vote with them. So, I had to examine it in regards to which side would burn me the most. If I had voted to evict Ashley, what would that side do? I ultimately saw Ashley's side as legitimately better game players, and so I knew that they wouldn't blow up on me too much. If they had blown up on me, they would've put an even bigger target on their backs, and that wouldn't have been smart. Kristina's side, however, particularly Dakota, had blown up already in the past. I had gotten the sense that loyalty meant a lot to Kristina's side, so a flipper would get a very very bad treatment. So I had decided: Who has the capacity to blow up my game as a flipper more: Dakota, Kristina's closest ally, or Nate, Ashley's closest ally? Dakota was much more likely to blow sh*t up, and so I voted to evict Ashley because I figured Nate would take it better, and he did. So, I voted to evict Ashley and I avoided many consequences when I finally had to step on the boat off the pier Now, as for the sixth week, I won HOH alongside Dakota. Immediately, I told Dakota that I was willing to work with him with our co-HOHs, because I knew we both had the ability to make moves Dakota immediately told me he wanted to nominate Kaitlyn and Jamie. That's great and fine with me, because I considered Kaitlyn a very volatile player. So, I took the conservative side and I nominated Bon and Nate. The reason I say Nate was a conservative move is not because I think he was a bad player, but rather because the house expected him to be nominated. That week, Nate and I won the POV. I had went hard in the POV because I didn't want Nate to win. Nate won, and I nominated Mitch as a pawn. Bon wasn't my target that week, but he was just the next one up. On the other side of things, I was happy to see Kaitlyn go because, if anyone was pissed about me flipping, it was her. Kaitlyn had asked me to use the POV to save her, but at that point, I had already chosen a side. My biggest flaw in Survivor was me flipping so much. I was trusted by neither side eventually, and that's what led to my downfall. There's only so long that you can do the splits, and I had decided to cut ties with Kaitlyn's side once and for all. Obviously this was hard for me because I genuinely do like Kaitlyn and Jonas can be a right a**hole. But I had decided to go with the majority because I feel like they would be better shields in front of me. I'd also like to discuss my subtle, but I think really smart move of going for the safety, instead of the HOH, at final 9. There's a heck of a lot of talk about how much I sheeped Jonas, but I didn't discuss this decision with Jonas at all. If you don't remember, during the final 9 HOH competitions, you could go for two additional prizes along with the HOH. You could go for an extra vote, if I remember right, or you could go for safety. For me, safety is THE most important aspect of being a Head of Household. With the way I played, it wasn't the power to nominate two people for eviction. Simply put, if you're safe for another week, that is what makes winning HOH important. In fact, I'd argue that making nominations hinders your game in many, many cases. You are forced to make targets that you don't want to make if your main target wins a veto. So, if I could find a way to obtain the safety aspect of HOH without actually giving yourself the responsibility of making nominations? Then I would go for that everytime. Not only was the safety itself crucial to this week, but I knew that if I hadn't won HOH, there would be a high chance that Jonas would be stuck between a rock and hard place for that week. And it turns out, he was. Jacob won that week's HOH, and I knew that Jonas was now in danger-mode. Jonas was now put in a position where he had to win POV, while I was left sitting comfortably on the sideline. I had actually thought about using this week as a buffer in order to maybe campaign for Gucci to be renominated after Jonas won the veto, but I thought better of it. I decided to wait to make the Gucci move because I thought it was too early. As many of you have shown me over the course of this game, s ometimes, not making a move is a move. 1. About the Mitch vote, I would definitely say that was a passive vote for me. It was one of the instances where I let Jonas tell me what to do in order to provide more security and comfort for him. Mitch and I hadn't talked a lot in those few days prior to him being evicted, so I thought it was a win-win scenario. 2. In regards to the knight veto, that was actually a spur of the moment decision by me. I knew I was already a huge competition threat, so winning another veto probably wouldn't have done very much for me. On the other hand: I was able to guarantee myself to be in good favor with someone with just one simple move on a chess board. The consequences of that move were hugely beneficial to me. a) I was able to show Dakota that I thought the position he was in was unfair (even though I didn't) b) There was no renominee, so I was in no danger of being put up on the block, even with Jonas as HOH and c) it ensured that either Jacob or Nate went, who were my two biggest threats still in the game at that point. I literally could not lose in that scenario and me throwing that veto to Dakota was my move and my move only. 3. Yet again, I think you're mistaking the idea that Jonas and I communicated with the idea that Jonas used a strap-on to f*ck me on the daily. We talked a lot of sh*t out, absolutely, but in no regards did I not have a mind of my own. 4. No, the reason I proposed that you were the target at first, instead of Gucci, was to test the waters to see how good the relationship actually was between the two of you. He didn't want you out, so I kept in the back of my mind that you guys were tight as hell. "And another hand, if one of my close allies quits to save me, would not it sign of good social game? One of my allies thinks I deserve to be here more than them, so they quit so I can stay. How many people are able to say this that someone have done something like that to them? I really can not see how this can be holded against me since I did everything right in this situation and as it looks to me, I would have stayed anyways. So Sammy how about that huh? " This is the most absurd thing I have ever read. Kristina, this whole novel you just wrote screams hypocrisy. You put me on blast for being Jonas's sheep, and yet all you have to show for it are PMs from Jonas? Maybe you should find another source of information other than Jonas? Jonas was not the only person I was talking to this game, and despite popular belief, I do have more than seven brain cells up here. There are countless moves that I made by myself and myself only. I made subtle moves, I made big moves, and I made smart moves. I turned on Jonas when I felt the time was right. You say I'm the biggest sheep in the land but while you're out shaving the wool off my body, I'm remembering final 5 HOH where you had the opportunity to nominate two people against Vergi, and you nominated Jamie instead of Jonas. Oh, but you say that was a good move for your game? That it's not indicative of how willing you are to make the powerful moves to win this game? Well, same to me. My game is much more than my allies. I adapt my game to other people, absolutely. But my strengths come from knowing what moves to make and when. So the fact that you say I've made absolutely no moves in this game is pretty embarrassing and it shows a HUGE lack of perspective and a HUGE lack of knowledge about this game. What it looks like to me is that you took Jonas's word as God and you ran with it. If you think I'm a nonthreatening sheep who shouldn't win, then I guess I played this game even better than I thought. (Also, am I hallucinating? Or did this girl say "What else big moves you had? Nothing...." and then later say "My whole game was about survival", and "But did I do some big moves? That was not the game I was playing. Should have I? Maybe, but I focused more about social game") lmao.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 11:35:28 GMT -5
Alright alright that's enough y'all. As moderator I am going to nip this right here.
Cast your votes jurors and remember..expect the unexpected. Tune in tonight for the big finale of BIIIG BROTHERRR!!
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