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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 12:51:54 GMT -5
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yah boy ain't f*cking dead yet
so I found who voted for Jimmy with us, this is from bry
"Hey y'all I voted for Jimmy not Briq. First up I straight do not like Jimmy second I wasn't gonna vote for Briq.
So basically I just wanna say that idc what happened 2 rounds ago, yeah I felt mad/betrayed but in the end that's petty. Out of everyone in the game y'all are still the only people I want to play with. I can't trust Cole/Magnum/Jimmy as far as I can throw them. Ricardo, he's nice but I've said 10 words to him. And yeah I like Alex but he is one person. So yeah I know y'all probably got y'all side deals going on and stuff but know that y'all are really the only people I'm with at this point in the game"
yoooooooooooooooooo that is huge, so now me vova and him should be a solid 3, if we can convince alex and ricardo to come with us that is huge.... we'd have 5-3 advantage and magnums vote cancel won't matter... but I am a little bit afraid that cole is in good with alex/ricardo... but I told Bryan that I want to blinside cole and that if he can convince alex to come with us then hopefully we can get ricardo too... I am just going to lay it out plain and simple that they can either go with cole the leader, magnum the UTR threat, or jimmy the jury favorite/underdog or come with us
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 13:35:46 GMT -5
I also was talking to magnum and he tells me that he thinks I'm in trouble next and I said I'm the new Jimmy and can be a free vote if he wants it and he tells me that he doesn't know if he can flip but he'll see what happens
Hes a snake for sure, him and cole are running the show....
I told Bryan this in our new tongan chat
"I'm so glad to hear that man... and honestly we have nothing at this point, it's just me and vova, we were hoping that like two of you/magnum/cole would vote with us this round but obviously only you did.... I don't trust Cole at all, he's playing everyone right now and straight up if he gets to the end he wins, he's got side deals with everyone so he's going to be hard to take out but hopefully we can rally up the votes to do it if you're down for that
i mean we can try convincing alex and ricardo to jump on board with us espcially if youre close with alex that can work, we'd have 5-3 advantage and magnum's vote cancel won't matter, we'd still have 4-3 but do you think that alex and ricardo are in good with those 3?
Honestly it makes no sense for them to go with cole magnum jimmy..... Cole is running this game and playing really well, if he gets to the end he'll win.... then there's Magnum the UTR darkhorse, Has not pissed anyone off, been in the majority of votes every time and he's won BB so he can win this.... and then there's Jimmy the scrappy underdog and jury favorite, honestly makes zero sense for alex and ricardo to go with them over us
pretty much from what I can gather talking to like briq and them, magnum and cole are running the show and probably stringing Jimmy Alex and Ricardo with them... Bryan would you want to message Alex and see where his head is at? I am prob going to talk to alex and ricardo and lay it all out on the line of why they should come with us if that works with you"
4 separate messages but he hasn't responded but he's pretty bad at pms anyway... once I get the okay I am going to message ricardo and alex and just lay it all out and say why going to the end with magnum jimmy cole doesn't make sense and that I'm down to vote anyone of them off
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 16:28:29 GMT -5
alright bryan responded and just said he doesn't if Alex will want to work with us but try and maybe we can convince him so I did, I laid it all out to Alex and gave him a really epic speech, here is what I said to him
"alright it's clear I am on the bottom now, but I just want to come out and be straightforward with you
I first want to apologize to you for voting for you two tribals ago. I would've said it sooner but I was on vacation and was not pming much, but I should have made the time, that is on me, and also I knew you'd be mad and I try avoiding conflict as much as possible lol but that was childish of me so I'm going to you now and saying I truly am sorry. The 6 of me ench cole briq magnum vova were deciding between trying to blindside you or vote out jimmy. At first I thought that targeting you may have made sense since you are such a challenge beast, but the more i thought about it the more I thought that Jimmy made more sense and I would've felt bad voting for you too.... but i woke up to a bunch of pms and it was pretty much decided that you were the target so I was not fighting it. At that point I did not want to betray my closest or one of my closest allies in Ench so I did not flip and vote ench and had to vote you, I am srry I really felt bad because you are such a nice guy but that was the best play for my game at the time, and I do consider myself loyal and I did not want to betray Ench
Obviously what happened happened, and now I'm on the bottom with vova. Vova is all I really have in this game, him and Bryan, I know that you and Bryan are close so I am hoping that maybe the 4 of us can vote together and maybe ricardo if we can convince him... I am jstu going to lay it all out
Cole and Magnum are running the game. they have been since the beginning and if they get to the end they will win, plain and simple, you guys can vote out me and vova next but at the end of the day cole and magnum will have each others backs and go to the end, sticking with them is just going to get you 4th-6th place and I know you want to join Ashley as a two time winner.
If you and Ricardo go with the trio of magnum jimmy cole I really feel like it will be a mistake for your game....... Cole is the leader of this game and honestly he's playing a really strong game, and he'd if he gets to end........ Magnum has been playing really strong game UTR and he's def a darkhorse, he's been a silent leader and has not pissed anyone on the jury off.... and if Jimmy gets to the end he will win for sure, he's been a scrappy underdog and a jury favorite. If he makes it it'll be as impressive as anything in any forum game and he'd win goin away....... I honestly feel like for you and Ricardo it'd make more sense to come with us. The vets hate us, we're clearly on the bottom, and haven't played nearly as strong games as they have
I understand if you've lost trust in us, but all I can do is apologize and promise you I will have your back to the end. I don't know if you and Ricardo are close with Cole or Magnum or Jimmy but you have to realize that they have a lot of options in this game and its very likely that they won't take you to the end and if they do, they will probably beat you
If you want to join Bryan and come with me and vova, and maybe we can convince ricardo? then we can hopefully blindside one of magnum/jimmy/cole you guys decide and we'll just follow"
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I can't say anything better than that, it is my last plea in this game
Idk if we can get Ricardo because Vova says that he does whatever Cole says, so I first want to try to get Alex and we'll go from that. Vova also said he's got a really good plan to possibly save us and he'll tell me later so I am excited for that
I also messaged Cole and just said like I am a free vote he can use and I still want to work him and he says to me that working with me "is still on the table" but was worried if I trusted him and I gave a good answer and said
"Honestly I def don't trust u as much as I did a week ago, and you have voted on opposite sides of me for two straight tribals so yea my trust with you is not at an all time high, but I do know that I can trust you because we worked together for like 99% of the game and I did genuinely trust you then and I still do feel like I can trust you again but I feel like I can only 100% trust you when you do something that gains back my trust, you know what i mean? But I am not in a position where I can make demands and pick who I trust. I know you can rally up votes to make something happen, and I am just saying that I'd join you, I don't have anyone else but vova at this point basically so I'm in a position where I have to trust you, if you'd vote with me this vote then I'd definitely trust you, but like I said you are in a good position, you don't need to trust me or need me to trust you. I just need to trust you lol"
and that lil b*tch has the nerve to tell me "Good answer lol. I'm gonna see what happens for the challenge. If I win, I'm not gonna lie it'd make your offer more tempting. We'd be able to turn on one of them with Magnums veto and vote out Alex, who I would love to see go over you at this point. Basically if I get safety, I want to work together. I'm not saying throw it because honestly if I was in your position I wouldn't risk throwing a competition. But it might be in your best interest. Because I know I'm a target much like people know you are. This would be best case scenario for both of our games."
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honestly does he think I'd throw hte challenge? Obviously it is an attempt by him to get me to to throw the challenge and not win so he can vote me but I'm not stupid.... sure he could come with me and vote with me this time but I am not risking my game with him, not getting betrayed by him a 3rd straight time..... my best bet at this point for now and the rest of the game is targeting him/jim/magnum and he gave me some really good bait to do that with that comment abt alex, once alex responds to me, or maybe even before I am going to screenshot him that and say look he's sneaking
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 18:21:48 GMT -5
alright alex seems to have ate it up, he said to me "well thank you for being honest about everything. i was honestly just really surprised when i heard i was getting votes LOL because i talked to you and briq the most out of everyone in this game. i mean i understand where you guys were coming from, i don't think it was the best decision lol, but i respect it. and it's probably partly my fault for basically leaving for a week with only an hour per day to get online. i'd be totally down to work together going forward, i didn't even want briq out tbh but like i just didn't know what else to do because nobody from your side really seemed to want me anymore LOL. but like i'm down to repair the bridge between us if you are, and I can try talking to Ricardo to see if he's on board. Honestly I don't know who Ricardo is closer to between me and Cole. Before this game it would've been me 100%, but they've been on the same tribe since the first swap, while I wasn't with either of them until merge. So I don't know what kind of deal they have. It doesn't hurt to ask though, so I'll talk to him. And even if he's against us, I'm still down to work with you/Bry/Vova? I think we're all in similar positions, our best bets to win are all probably against each other and not the others LOL idk." I told him that I'm down to work with them but need one more because of Magnum's vote cancel. So I am having him talk to Ricardo. I told him it's better that he talks to him first and says that he thinks they should go with us and that people say ricardo is just cole's pet.... sounds better coming from alex first since they are closer, and then I will message him later, the chances are this will get back to cole or magnum but whatever idc this is my last chance And vova was concerned that alex doesn't trust him but I told him that Alex seems to be good now and not to worry abt that, I put a good word in
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 19:30:04 GMT -5
alright alex told me he was messaging ricardo and ricardo was worried vova is with magnum/cole because he voted briq but I told him assure him that was just to prevent a revote, and then Ricardo told Alex he had to talk to alex first so like wtf?!?
so I messaged Ricardo, I put it all on the line
"alright it's clear I am on the bottom now, but I just want to come out and be straightforward with you
I know that some trust may have been lost when I voted for alex but like I said I'm srry for that and I do regret it, I cooled things over with Alex and I want to cool things over with you
If you and Alex go with the trio of magnum jimmy cole I really feel like it will be a mistake for your game....... Cole is the leader of this game and honestly he's playing a really strong game, and he'd if he gets to end he'll win........ Magnum has been playing really strong game UTR and he's def a darkhorse, he's been a silent leader and has not pissed anyone on the jury off.... and if Jimmy gets to the end he will win for sure, he's been a scrappy underdog and a jury favorite. If he makes it it'll be as impressive as anything in any forum game and he'd win goin away....... I honestly feel like for you and Alex it'd make more sense to come with us, me vova and bryan now. For me and vova espeically, the vets hate us, we're clearly on the bottom, and haven't played nearly as strong games as they have... Vova isn't with magnum or cole at all he only voted briq because he didn't want to deal with a revote but trust me hes good.
I understand if you've lost trust in us, but all I can do is apologize and promise you I will have your back to the end. I don't know if you and Alex are close with Cole or Magnum or Jimmy but you have to realize that they have a lot of options in this game and its very likely that they won't take you to the end and if they do, they will probably beat you... I have heard from more than one person that you do "anything Cole says" Cole told vova that he has you wrapped around his finger basically... that isn't a good perception to have if you are serious abt winning this game, now's your only chance to prove that isn't true.
If you want to join Bryan and possibly Alex and come with me and vova we can hopefully blindside one of magnum/jimmy/cole you guys decide and we'll just follow... it makes sense for all of our games"
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I mean if he's got any sense then he'd come with us. He can go run and tell cole and prove that everything I said is correct or he can have a backbone for once... this may backfire, he may tell cole and then they'll all vote me but they'll all vote me anyway probably so I am goin down swinging.
and also vova told me something really interesting that ench found the strategy tribe idol, I am shocked he didn't tell me that, I thought nobody found it, made me wrry cole or magnum can have sideline but vova said for sure nobody has it
but we're thinking we can say that we've got the strategy tribe and that like ench gave it to us or something, can help put some fear in them
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 19:44:14 GMT -5
alright well ricardo messaged me before I sent all this, or while I was in the middle of it and I did not see it and said
"Hey I've been hearing of a possible grouping of Bryan, Vova, Alex, you and me and while I'm all for it, I have to ask why you think you have Vova? I wonder about him because didn't he vote for Briq last TC so I have to ask what makes you think he's in."
so when I saw it I said that he's good for sure and explained how much I trust him and how hard it was Vova voting Briq
I said I did not want off brash but I just think that for him alex it makes sense to come with us because in the 5 of him alex jimmy cole magnum 1 of those 3 will def go to the end and they'll win... with us it's anyone's game
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 20:10:13 GMT -5
and he responded back saying that he's good with it and agrees the 3 of them are threats to win so I will continue to talk to him also alex and we'll see if we can do it, it'll be awesome if we can, I just have to make sure Ricardo feels safe we have vova I told him if he isn't with us I will send him $100 paypal that is how confident I am haha
I also may start the challenge now
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 21:19:59 GMT -5
I'm in the middle of this challenge boring af nate
if I don't win, and either way possibly, I may tell alex and ricardo that I have the idol from strategy, I can use like something from ench to prove it and say that I may play it on me or vova, but I jsut want to be upfront I have one and I am playing, should scare them into voting with us
I may even use it against cole or magnum idk ill see
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 21:21:10 GMT -5
Holds arm up
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 21:26:28 GMT -5
i lost smh only lasted an hour I see Bryan had more from the confessionals. I got distracted and missed a minute, honestly this could be a blessing in disguise I did not want to stay up til 4 am for this, and would've looked sus if I was goin so hard on a challenge when i "have an idol"
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 10, 2015 21:29:13 GMT -5
I'm heated rn ughhhhhhhh something that I really controlled my won fate with too, whatever, odds were I would've messed up eventually or someone would've beat me
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 11, 2015 13:14:52 GMT -5
alright so the plan of getting a screenshot from ench and using that to say i have the idol can't happen... (ty nate)
So i'm thinking if we do anything, either I get up at TC and say "I have an idol. I found it from strategy, I found it early in the game and never told anyone because I nvr felt in trouble. Tonight is different. So I'm making it clear that I am playing this tonight. On either me or vova, not sure yet, I will flip a coin and whoever it lands on I will play it on. You don't have to believe me, I really don't care if you do, but you will care when I play it"
I can either do that or something more subtle like message alex and ricardo and say I have it and want to clear the air that I am playing it on either myself or vova, and that I trust them but I want to be sure and don't want to go home with in it my pocket, and I will play it as a testament of good will to say that I want to get rid of it now and move forward with no idols are none of us being safe.... in reality it's just to scare them into voting with us
or I can just message like Cole and magnum and say it and scare them outright........ I told vova all this and I'll see what he says. I don't have 100% in vova because he has a tendency to just do what is best for himself, but I have no choice to but to trust him completely, I do feel like I can trust him, but just not as confident as I was with like ench for example, who I trusted as much as I trusted myself honestly
idk all depends on the read I get from Ricardo. He says he is in but Idk he doesn't seem too enthusiastic. But I do like that he was concerned abt vova being with us because shows he put some thought into it, I told vova he should message him individually and just like further convince him join us and why it makes sense for him
I told ricardo again that we don't want Cole Magnum or Jimmy to win because Cole is like 16, Magnum has won BB, and JImmy is a vet, I have to make sure he understands why it's best for his game
Bryan's pretty bad at pms but I think he is on board with us and I feel like Alex is now too. I am messaging Alex to make sure everything is good and seeing if Ricardo is still with us, because I feel like Ricardo will be honest with Alex... I am putting a lot of trust in them when they can very easily just vote for me, but I have to, I promised I'm not going out easy and I def have put a massive amount of effort into this
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 11, 2015 13:16:08 GMT -5
now alex says ricardo told his he's down, chance ricardo's lying, hey there is a chance that Alex is lying, but I will take it
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 11, 2015 13:21:11 GMT -5
and I responded to Alex
"yea told me the same I am just making sure because I feel like he'd be more upfront with you, hopefully he's not under control of Cole like people say and he'll come with us, that will be huge if we can take back the game from the hands of Cole Magnum Jimmy, like I told Ricardo, voting them out helps us, yes, but also important, I don't want any of those 3 winning lol, Cole is like 16 haha, Jimmy is a vet, and Magnum won BB already, like let one of us 5 have a turn lol, I know you won already, but unlike them you are not a massive d*ck so I can live you winning lmao, I obviously want to win, but as long as 1 of our guys, win I can be happy with that lol"
i am making it seem like this is why Ricardo should come with us but I am also doing this so Alex knows why he comes with us too, without it looking like I am trying to hard to convince him
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 11, 2015 15:02:03 GMT -5
now vova is starting to wrry me a little bit because he trusts magnum for some reason, even though I keep telling him that he's betrayed us 2 straight times and can't be trusted. Briq told me he thinks that magnum's the one that orchestrated all this. Vova says he'd rather have Jimmy or Cole gone next and I agree but I told him that it's not up to us, we have to listen to whatever Ricardo and Alex want, they are the ones we need
Vova is goin to message alex and ricardo then I'll create a group message that we can all discuss in
and vova also told me that magnum is afraid I'm gonna flip the house and that he was gonna message me.... Yea he'd better be afraid, you can't come at me and say I'm in trouble and expect me to be like "Okay"... Come at me bruh
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 12, 2015 14:14:39 GMT -5
I have told both alex and ricardo that whoever they want gone is who I will vote for. I want them to decide between magnum jimmy cole because like I told them while I think it's smart for all of us to work together, I need them more than they need me so whoever they want gone is who I will go with. I'd prefer them to go with Magnum or Cole personally because they are running the show, but in reality it's Jimmy or Cole I'd like gone, because privately I have some concerns that Vova won't want to vote Magnum for whatever reason. But I also am afraid Ricardo may not want to vote Cole if he doesn't want to outright betray him. So Jimmy may be the best bet to get everyone on board, he's not in a position of power, but he's a threat, I'm not aligned him, and most importantly, it ain't me
And just to make sure Vova is not going to get floppy I told him that like I am glad we're working together, we're the last from our crucial alliance still in it and with us, and that I want to go the end with nobody but him and promised him I wont put his name down this game. and vova said the same to me... I can't think of a scenario in which I would have to write his name down the way the game is goin but I wouldn't have a problem breaking the promise if I need to... it is really just to assure that he's loyal to me and won't flip on me like he sort of did with Briq. I have to convince the swing votes, but I also have to make sure everyone I think I trust feels comfortable too. I've tried talking to Bryan a bit but man he's just not good at messaging back
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 12, 2015 16:08:52 GMT -5
alright so I have been working hard on Alex and I am now pretty close to positive he's with me. This is from him
"'ll let you know if i hear anything else that's like actually an indication of them targeting you, you know i've got your back 1000000% now, you're a real solid guy and someone that i hope i can call a friend long after this game. "
and also said he likes playing with me because I am straight forward and trustful
and also later said #bromance
now tell me I don't have a social game
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there's a chance he's just playing me, but I mean why go through all the trouble to make me feel so safe, he's a good guy so I don't think he would do that. I asked him if he has anyone he'd want to target and said he's fine with any of the 3, we agreed we'd let cole decide. I told him I understand if he wants cole gone (just to remind him what cole said abt him to me) and also we talked abt being the only 1s left from our tribes and I said like "hope there's not some huge conspiracy that social and sidelined are working together this entire time" very doubtful, but just put that seed in his head and make him want to work with me even more
And also told me he talked to magnum and that magnum mentioned my name. I told him that I figured they are targeting me but that maybe they will try recruiting me to blindside him or ricardo, just planting more seeds in his head... I told vova that magnum said that so hopefully he will trust him less now
the way i see it is this
me vova bryan and alex will vote for one of magnum cole jimmy.....everyone else can decide who of those 3 we vote for, I'm fine with whatever
jimmy cole magnum will all vote for me, and magnum will use his vote cancellor on me, making it 3-3
and then that leaves Ricardo. I will continue to work him over, and I will continue to try and get alex and vova to work on him, he is my hope in this game
If I don't want to put all of my eggs in his basket I can try and talk to Jimmy and see if he wants to come with us, make him vote cole or magnum, and that is fine because even if vote for jimmy, he will just basically vote himself out of the game by voting for one of those two...
Idk I will see
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 12, 2015 21:12:45 GMT -5
alright its gametime
immunity went to alex, don't really care, shouldn't have an effect on the vote
I messaged Ricardo one last time and said this
"alright so how does alex winning affect your strategy at all? I am still down for any of the 3 of magnum jimmy cole, all 3 will win if they get to the end, and this is our last chance likely to get them out, it is my last chance to stay in this game, and your last chance to put a big move on your resume and break free from the perception you are following cole... I can create a group pm with me you alex bryan vova if we all want to air out our grievances and decide who we want gone... I kind of figure that Cole and Magnum are targeting me but I messaged them just to see what kind of lies they will tell me, are they trying to get u and alex to vote me? Idc I just want to know what angle they are coming from"
and he responded
"Yeah I think they think that Alex and I are voting with them and the target is suppose to be you unless they are lying to me, and yea a group pm is the best plan because Magnum has the vote canceler so we all have to be on the same page for the vote since one of the votes won't count most likely since I doubt Magnum will use it on Cole or Jimmy."
I still fear that he is loyal to cole and will vote with them, but honestly this answer looks like a guy who is ready to vote with me... everything he says checks out and looks like he put some thought into it.
I created a group pm with me him alex bryan ricardo and said this
"The title kind of speaks for itself lol. there's 3 people who have played games here that will beat any of us, and their names are Magnum Jimmy and Cole. This is likely our last chance to band together, take back the game, and go down on the right side of Survivor history. Magnum is likely to use his vote cancelor on me so it's important we're all on the same page here so we can still have a 4-3 advantage. I am down for voting any of the 3. Cole and Magnum have played A+ games with no mistakes, and Jimmy gets more likely to reach the end every vote if he goes, and we all know what will happen if he makes it... whoever the majority is down to vote for I am with"
I mean this is it, if it works out it works out, if not I go home knowing I tried my hardest to make this work and played a game I am very proud of and is deserving of some player of the season consideration (wink, wink)
I also am double covering myself and telling magnum and cole basically, tell me if I am goin home, you guys will probably be FTC, I won't, so keep jury management in the back of your mind and tell me straight up if I am goin home and what i can do to get myself to stay"... magnum took a long way but basically said he's voting for me because I am a threat blah blah blah also said he knows I won't roll over... I told him he's correct I won't, but I know him and cole have the most influence in this game and that they should take me as far as possible as an extra vote and cut me off before the end, or can take me to finale and they will probably beat me
Now the real reason I am doin this is because I don't want them expecting that I am working over Alex and Ricardo, I don't want them trying to convince alex and ricardo to flip on me, I want them to think that I am only relying on them and that there's no reason to convince alex and ricardo
if they actually listen to me and want to keep me that is just a hilarious addition, it double ensures my safety, but I am not voting with them no matter what
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 12, 2015 21:54:59 GMT -5
the answer I gave at tribal abt being on the bottom but I have made my argument to the people I need to make them too as to why they should keep me is very two sided and intelligent if I may say. Ricardo and Alex think its for them. Magnum and Cole think its for them
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Post by tsky429 on Aug 12, 2015 22:37:10 GMT -5
I'm waiting for someone to throw out a name but nobody has yet, I warned them I am pretending to work over magnum and cole so they don't get spooked if they tell someone I am trying hard
I told magnum this and cole something similar
"I am not in the position you are so I honestly can't say what I would do but if I were you I would think this you havee played a really good game, you are a threat, you may not be getting targeted now but likely in a few votes you will get targeted and when the time does come, you will want as many people in your corner as possible, and that is what I offer you. I'm no immunity threat so if you really think I'd beat you in the finals you can take me out at any time after you use me for a few votes. There has to be someone or some ppl you are aligned with who you are concerned abt, why not take them out using me while you can, instead of waiting til you are the target? Tony kept spencer around awhile in Cagayan because he knew as long as Spencer was around there was always someone he could put the target on besides himself if he was in trouble, and that is exactly what you can do to me. I'm just saying"
Honestly it is a pretty convincing argument and does make sense for them. If I can convince them to vote with me that really would be hilarious, but can actually be important as it secures my safety for sure
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