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Post by briqsquad on Apr 8, 2015 23:48:47 GMT -5
Is Jason guy (bb3) worthy of a top ten spot?
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Post by Brooke on Apr 20, 2015 23:55:11 GMT -5
Is Jason guy (bb3) worthy of a top ten spot? I don't think so. Danielle stands out more in the duo. |
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Post by Jhonmarco on Apr 20, 2015 23:56:49 GMT -5
Is Jason guy (bb3) worthy of a top ten spot? I don't think so. Danielle stands out more in the duo. I think she was better strategically, but he was better socially. |
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Post by Brooke on Apr 20, 2015 23:58:31 GMT -5
I don't think so. Danielle stands out more in the duo. I think she was better strategically, but he was better socially. That's definitely true. He would have beaten her in the end because of the whole jury being able to see the episodes, but Danielle was more vocal and stands out more to me. |
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Post by Jhonmarco on Apr 21, 2015 0:00:03 GMT -5
I think she was better strategically, but he was better socially. That's definitely true. He would have beaten her in the end because of the whole jury being able to see the episodes, but Danielle was more vocal and stands out more to me. I think Danielle would have lost either way to Jason, which is what Danielle was going for. I guess it depends what you value more in the game. Thinking about it a top 5-10 of greatest to never win would be cool. |
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Post by Brooke on Apr 21, 2015 0:00:56 GMT -5
That's definitely true. He would have beaten her in the end because of the whole jury being able to see the episodes, but Danielle was more vocal and stands out more to me. I think Danielle would have lost either way to Jason, which is what Danielle was going for. I guess it depends what you value more in the game. Thinking about it a top 5-10 of greatest to never win would be cool. That would definitely be awesome. Just wish Janelle could've come back for a better season. |
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Post by briqsquad on Apr 21, 2015 0:00:58 GMT -5
Is Jason guy (bb3) worthy of a top ten spot? I don't think so. Danielle stands out more in the duo. Who's your top ten? Doesnt have to be in order or anything. |
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Post by Brooke on Apr 21, 2015 0:03:13 GMT -5
I don't think so. Danielle stands out more in the duo. Who's your top ten? Doesnt have to be in order or anything. Honestly I haven't thought of it. Top five though (no particular order) Dan Dr. Will Danielle from BB3 Jun Derrick |
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Post by Jhonmarco on Apr 21, 2015 0:03:20 GMT -5
Rough list of best to never win: Danielle Reyes, Jason (BB3), Nicole (BB2), Diane (BB5), Alison (BB4), Memphis (BB10) maybe? Can't think of anyone else after that, Neda would probably make this list tho.
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Post by Brooke on Apr 21, 2015 0:04:41 GMT -5
Rough list of best to never win: Danielle Reyes, Jason (BB3), Nicole (BB2), Diane (BB5), Alison (BB4), Memphis (BB10) maybe? Can't think of anyone else after that, Neda would probably make this list tho. Where is Janelle? |
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Post by briqsquad on Apr 21, 2015 0:05:48 GMT -5
Rough list of best to never win: Danielle Reyes, Jason (BB3), Nicole (BB2), Diane (BB5), Alison (BB4), Memphis (BB10) maybe? Can't think of anyone else after that, Neda would probably make this list tho. Eric stein maybe? |
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Post by Jhonmarco on Apr 21, 2015 0:07:33 GMT -5
Rough list of best to never win: Danielle Reyes, Jason (BB3), Nicole (BB2), Diane (BB5), Alison (BB4), Memphis (BB10) maybe? Can't think of anyone else after that, Neda would probably make this list tho. Where is Janelle? Oh yeah, she'd probably make around top 6 or so though. Points off for her social game. |
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Post by Jhonmarco on Apr 21, 2015 0:08:30 GMT -5
Rough list of best to never win: Danielle Reyes, Jason (BB3), Nicole (BB2), Diane (BB5), Alison (BB4), Memphis (BB10) maybe? Can't think of anyone else after that, Neda would probably make this list tho. Eric stein maybe? Meh, wasn't he stifled by the twist? I don't know if we got a true grasp on how good he could be. Just remembered, James Rhine is a solid pick too. |
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Post by daquanwizard on May 2, 2015 19:42:41 GMT -5
1A Dan
1B Dr. Will
I will say first that I still haven't watched season 2 (yet im going very soon) but Dan's gameplay in BB14 was phenomenal and the only reason why he didn't win was probably because he won before and the jury was so butt hurt about him because he actually did the work. Dan should have won two and for that it makes him 1A in my book. Plus that funeral was GOAT. Him and his biggest partner in the game were both up while they were both a target and he managed the flipped the house so much to where they didn't even take a swing at either of them and took out Britney who may have won if Dan was evicted that ceremony.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 12, 2015 2:52:19 GMT -5
I think we can say Andy had the best endgame in this shows history. Taking GM and Spencer to the final 3 is a dream. He also killed the questioning and speech or maybe GM was that bad and made him look even better but still his endgame and jury management was GOAT.
Daquan, I cant give Dan the number one because he basically did the opposite of andy on season 14, which is paramount playing BB.
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Post by daquanwizard on Jun 12, 2015 13:04:47 GMT -5
I think we can say Andy had the best endgame in this shows history. Taking GM and Spencer to the final 3 is a dream. He also killed the questioning and speech or maybe GM was that bad and made him look even better but still his endgame and jury management was GOAT. Daquan, I cant give Dan the number one because he basically did the opposite of andy on season 14, which is paramount playing BB. I totally agree with Andy because when I was watching the show I never thought he was a threat until really late in the game so I have all the respect for how he was Kevin 2.0. But like you said its a little tainted when you take two people who are homophobic racists(not saying it was the biggest part but you can't not consider it) to the final 3 and ask the jury not to vote for you lol That season was the year of the pawns which frustrated me to no end. Sorry there is gonna be an essay because I just watched season 2 so I have a really strong opinion on it. Ok my problem with putting Dr.Will as 1 is season 2. Yes he was very manipulative and can talk through a lot of situations but with the rule differences its hard to compare it without a POV. Because Dr.Will would have an entire week to put in work when in some cases you'd have a day in the newer seasons. Also I don't get why people hate floaters but praise Dr.Will because Dr.Will was basically GOAT floater on season 2. He was a floater 80% of the game. There was no POV which probably helped him because again if he got backdoored idk if he would be able to pull it off in a day with that cast.There as also a huge difference in culture in the earlier seasons of not wanting to hurt anyones feelings and always trying to be nice to people(i.e. season 3 when marcellus didn't use the POV ON HIMSELF because it made other people comfortable if it was used) which worked to his advantage because he was the first to not care about their feelings. I can't remember much of 7 because I haven't seen it in a while but that was definitely his best showing on that season. Also the jury management is much easier in the early seasons than now because in the beginning they sent the jurors home where they can see what happened and what is happening which flips the whole thing upside down. Thats a huge advantage when you play the floater game because jurors can see you did it on purpose. Now that the jury is sequestered it's a lot more of what they thought in that bubble than the actual overall picture and they are more likely to think he was carried if they only saw that they hated them and the only reason why he was their because he was carried. I think Dr.Will was the first to realize that and that's why he won because he knew they were watching. He was able to have DRs that were positive toward them and I think another factor was during his online chat he was definitely putting in some jury work with the answers to those questions. Because he played the i'm happy to be here and I love every second card and then brought Nicole who was the exact opposite and complained and whined her whole way through the game which probably was a factor. For Dan I appreciate his game a little more because he played two different games on two different season. Dr.Will basically played the same game on both seasons which is a testament how well he executed his one way but i'd rather see him do something else. Dan was able to play the good guy in his first season and instead of claiming that again he used it to his advantage to then be evil Dan and have terrible jury management because he wasn't afforded the same opportunity Dr.Will was. If he was able to basically talk to the jurors through the show or online chats then I think you could have same thing happening as Dan winning over Ian because they would realize he was carried at points of the game by Dan and or Boogie and give the win to Dan. So after thinking about it and writing this i'd put Dan 1 and Dr. Will 2. Dr. Will was given advantages that more modern players don't have and that for me puts Dan above Dr. Will. If for some reason they have an all stars or a returnee kind of thing with Dr. Will in it and he gets to the final 4 then i'd put him 1 because the game is a whole different beast now with technology and all the information that you can have now. |
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 12, 2015 18:47:43 GMT -5
I think we can say Andy had the best endgame in this shows history. Taking GM and Spencer to the final 3 is a dream. He also killed the questioning and speech or maybe GM was that bad and made him look even better but still his endgame and jury management was GOAT. Daquan, I cant give Dan the number one because he basically did the opposite of andy on season 14, which is paramount playing BB. I totally agree with Andy because when I was watching the show I never thought he was a threat until really late in the game so I have all the respect for how he was Kevin 2.0. But like you said its a little tainted when you take two people who are homophobic racists(not saying it was the biggest part but you can't not consider it) to the final 3 and ask the jury not to vote for you lol That season was the year of the pawns which frustrated me to no end. Sorry there is gonna be an essay because I just watched season 2 so I have a really strong opinion on it. Ok my problem with putting Dr.Will as 1 is season 2. Yes he was very manipulative and can talk through a lot of situations but with the rule differences its hard to compare it without a POV. Because Dr.Will would have an entire week to put in work when in some cases you'd have a day in the newer seasons. Also I don't get why people hate floaters but praise Dr.Will because Dr.Will was basically GOAT floater on season 2. He was a floater 80% of the game. There was no POV which probably helped him because again if he got backdoored idk if he would be able to pull it off in a day with that cast.There as also a huge difference in culture in the earlier seasons of not wanting to hurt anyones feelings and always trying to be nice to people(i.e. season 3 when marcellus didn't use the POV ON HIMSELF because it made other people comfortable if it was used) which worked to his advantage because he was the first to not care about their feelings. I can't remember much of 7 because I haven't seen it in a while but that was definitely his best showing on that season. Also the jury management is much easier in the early seasons than now because in the beginning they sent the jurors home where they can see what happened and what is happening which flips the whole thing upside down. Thats a huge advantage when you play the floater game because jurors can see you did it on purpose. Now that the jury is sequestered it's a lot more of what they thought in that bubble than the actual overall picture and they are more likely to think he was carried if they only saw that they hated them and the only reason why he was their because he was carried. I think Dr.Will was the first to realize that and that's why he won because he knew they were watching. He was able to have DRs that were positive toward them and I think another factor was during his online chat he was definitely putting in some jury work with the answers to those questions. Because he played the i'm happy to be here and I love every second card and then brought Nicole who was the exact opposite and complained and whined her whole way through the game which probably was a factor. For Dan I appreciate his game a little more because he played two different games on two different season. Dr.Will basically played the same game on both seasons which is a testament how well he executed his one way but i'd rather see him do something else. Dan was able to play the good guy in his first season and instead of claiming that again he used it to his advantage to then be evil Dan and have terrible jury management because he wasn't afforded the same opportunity Dr.Will was. If he was able to basically talk to the jurors through the show or online chats then I think you could have same thing happening as Dan winning over Ian because they would realize he was carried at points of the game by Dan and or Boogie and give the win to Dan. So after thinking about it and writing this i'd put Dan 1 and Dr. Will 2. Dr. Will was given advantages that more modern players don't have and that for me puts Dan above Dr. Will. If for some reason they have an all stars or a returnee kind of thing with Dr. Will in it and he gets to the final 4 then i'd put him 1 because the game is a whole different beast now with technology and all the information that you can have now. Now a days from HOH to eviction is still quite awhile. The tv show, shows POV and eviction on Wednesday and Thursday but in reality POV happens on Saturday and on Thursday they have live eviction so there is still enough time to campaign. People who hate floaters dont really value the game and being a floater is not a bad thing, especially when you can use it to your advantage like Dr. Will, Jun, and Andy have. Backdoor is a threatening option but Will was nominated 4 times with no veto, so a backdoor is kind of similar since on season 2 if you were nominated, there was no comp to save you after HOH. Will's strategy and gameplay prevent s from being backdoord since he played on allstars and didnt get backdoored. The point of a backdoor is to get out a really good competitor and Will threw everything so you can nominate him whenever which makes backdooring him useless. You also have to realize that Season 2 of BB is basically the first season, so Will never had anything to base his game off of. Other players can see what has worked and what hasnt so they can play accordingly, Will didnt. Will also invented strategies for BB players on his season. Will came up with throwing competitions to appear weak, use his weakness as a way to not vote him out and basically invented the pawn strategy. These are all very prevalent today and Dan is actually someone who uses a lot of these tactics. Will on BB7>Will BB2 for sure. If the jury management helped out will why didnt it help out Danielle? Danielle talked sh*t in her interviews, so did Will. Jurors both saw Will and Danielle play a good strategic game but one succeeded and the other did not. The big answer hear is that Will was sitting next to nicole, someone who people disliked and Danielle was sitting next to Lisa. Lisa was loved by everyone and super hot, so sitting next her is a guaranteed 50Gs. Thats good end game by Will and shouldnt even be knocked on his part. Dans BB10 game is better than Wills BB2 game and since Dan won BB10 its better than Wills BB7 also. Dans BB14 was nowhere near as good as Wills seasons because he made way too many mistakes and it was fun seeing him back out of it but he also created too many enemies. Dr Will did not play the same on both seasons, thats false. On season 2 he alienated himself from the house with Chilltown, became a big target earlier on, played hard from the beginning was used as a pawn. On Allstars, he laid low early, was never the target and made sure it was on someone else, made multiple alliances, and was only on the block once before being eliminated. His game definitely changed. The only thing that was constant was lying a lot and throwing comps. When did Dr. Will talk to the jury on season 2? Dan got to amend things with michelle with that trip he took which is the same thing. He also told her to work ollie and april which was really beneficial. Playing a good social game shouldnt piss of people. Do you think Frank and Shane will vote for him after what he did to them? Dan wouldnt be able to turn them and Joe also hated him. 3 people who are guaranteed to vote against him and then Brittany was lock for Ian, so at best Dan could have gotten 3 votes. Dr. Will essentially played two different games and did well in both, if he never played after all stars, than it would be questionable to what he can really do. But since we saw him in allstars which is similar to current BB, he played even better than his original season, played against people who saw his game and have played before and still had them look lie fools. Dan may have made it further on his 2nd try but Will was the closest to winning twice because he would have beaten anyone in the final 2. On bb14, Dan also had a month of not playing and building relationships with people in the house before he entered the game which is a bit unfair if you ask me. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 1:23:25 GMT -5
For those of you who have watched the BB Canada seasons how would you guys rank them with the US players?
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Post by Joey on Sept 22, 2015 5:40:35 GMT -5
For those of you who have watched the BB Canada seasons how would you guys rank them with the US players? Neda is up there fo sho |
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Post by Magnum on Sept 22, 2015 10:07:50 GMT -5
Didn't watch enough of season 3, but I'd definitely put Neda and Emmett up there. Maybe Jon too.
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