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Post by Coke on Jun 6, 2016 19:36:40 GMT -5
eh. While I think Jeremy was in the higher tier of winners, I don't think he was the most strategic being in his own season, let alone in the top 10 of all time. BRIQ I think Yul definitely deserves to be in the top 10. I also haven't seen all the seasons tho.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 19:37:52 GMT -5
he's pretty good but who would I take out for Jeremy? not sure to be honest, but I'll answer your question with a question that's been asked a lot; how is russell on the list? He's the idol king which doesn't really count much as strategy, and the Tyson switch in HvV wasn't even because of him.
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Post by Nate on Jun 6, 2016 19:38:12 GMT -5
Top 10 most strategic players in no order: Cirie Tony Jfp BR Russell Rob C Natalie A Stephen Brian Tom W. I've also haven't watched a lot of seasons so that explains the exclusions of kim, yul, Earl, and some others. Thoughts? Jhonmarco kenny Coke Joey Helen of Troy @desertfox Outlast phil Jgrubl Dewie890 Donald. Yup that's every survivor fan on this site I like this list but I think u left out that ur a cnt
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 19:38:25 GMT -5
eh. While I think Jeremy was in the higher tier of winners, I don't think he was the most strategic being in his own season, let alone in the top 10 of all time. BRIQ I think Yul definitely deserves to be in the top 10. I also haven't seen all the seasons tho. yul was a definite gamebot and I agree
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2016 20:07:32 GMT -5
he's pretty good but who would I take out for Jeremy? not sure to be honest, but I'll answer your question with a question that's been asked a lot; how is russell on the list? He's the idol king which doesn't really count much as strategy, and the Tyson switch in HvV wasn't even because of him. Hes made some pretty strategic moves and has controlled a lot of votes his way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 20:15:15 GMT -5
not sure to be honest, but I'll answer your question with a question that's been asked a lot; how is russell on the list? He's the idol king which doesn't really count much as strategy, and the Tyson switch in HvV wasn't even because of him. Hes made some pretty strategic moves and has controlled a lot of votes his way. explain them
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2016 20:27:31 GMT -5
Hes made some pretty strategic moves and has controlled a lot of votes his way. explain them Danielles vote off on HvV shows his ability to control and flip the vote in an instant even tho it wasn't the right move
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Post by Outlast on Jun 6, 2016 21:11:07 GMT -5
Richard Hatch must be on any best strategist list imo, him and Dr. Will for BB basically showed how you play the games.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2016 21:21:52 GMT -5
Richard Hatch must be on any best strategist list imo, him and Dr. Will for BB basically showed how you play the games. last time I watched borneo was like when I was 8 so that's possible. I think the top ten have showed better strategic game but I definitely think he's up there. Who would you sub Richard in for on my list and why? What I saw from allstars, I wouldn't put hatch in my top ten.
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Post by Outlast on Jun 6, 2016 21:32:31 GMT -5
Richard Hatch must be on any best strategist list imo, him and Dr. Will for BB basically showed how you play the games. last time I watched borneo was like when I was 8 so that's possible. I think the top ten have showed better strategic game but I definitely think he's up there. Who would you sub Richard in for on my list and why? What I saw from allstars, I wouldn't put hatch in my top ten. Everybody wanted to be the one to get him out in AS and if I remember correctly he said as a result he really didn't try much strategically. On that list, I'd probably sub out Tom, just cause I never enjoyed Palau that much to remember it very well and I remember him being more challenge-oriented than anything.
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Post by Jhonmarco on Jun 6, 2016 21:37:58 GMT -5
Top 10 most strategic players in no order: Cirie Tony Jfp BR Russell Rob C Natalie A Stephen Brian Tom W. I've also haven't watched a lot of seasons so that explains the exclusions of kim, yul, Earl, and some others. Thoughts? Jhonmarco kenny Coke Joey Helen of Troy @desertfox Outlast phil Jgrubl Dewie890 Donald. Yup that's every survivor fan on this site Yeah Russell and Boston Rob are a no for me. As an example, Russell taking out Danielle was a bad strategic move as it out him in a 100% losing spot no matter what. That's the main objective of the game and what being strategic is to further advance yourself to reach your goal: winning. Rob clearly did well on his last season, but Marquesas was full of blunders. All Stars was like a Russell lite game and on HvV he was outplayed by Russell that got himself ousted. I agree with the rest of that list though. Kim and Earl would be people I'd replace them with
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Post by Jhonmarco on Jun 6, 2016 21:41:59 GMT -5
last time I watched borneo was like when I was 8 so that's possible. I think the top ten have showed better strategic game but I definitely think he's up there. Who would you sub Richard in for on my list and why? What I saw from allstars, I wouldn't put hatch in my top ten. Everybody wanted to be the one to get him out in AS and if I remember correctly he said as a result he really didn't try much strategically. On that list, I'd probably sub out Tom, just cause I never enjoyed Palau that much to remember it very well and I remember him being more challenge-oriented than anything. Yeah I song even think he took all stars seriously since the winners and big stars knew they were in trouble like Rob C, Tina, Ethan, etc. Tom did win a lot of challenges, but he always outplayed anybody who tried to make moves against him and was 2 steps ahead. Final 7, girls try to get together to get Tom/Ian out and Tom has Caryn locked up and shuts it down. Final 6, Tom sees how close Katie has gotten to Gregg/Jenn and flips vote on Gregg and strongarms Katie into voting out Gregg or going to rocks. He was only immune for maybe 2 or 3 votes, but he was constantly ahead of people like Katie that they could never get him out.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2016 21:55:36 GMT -5
Top 10 most strategic players in no order: Cirie Tony Jfp BR Russell Rob C Natalie A Stephen Brian Tom W. I've also haven't watched a lot of seasons so that explains the exclusions of kim, yul, Earl, and some others. Thoughts? Jhonmarco kenny Coke Joey Helen of Troy @desertfox Outlast phil Jgrubl Dewie890 Donald. Yup that's every survivor fan on this site Yeah Russell and Boston Rob are a no for me. As an example, Russell taking out Danielle was a bad strategic move as it out him in a 100% losing spot no matter what. That's the main objective of the game and what being strategic is to further advance yourself to reach your goal: winning. Rob clearly did well on his last season, but Marquesas was full of blunders. All Stars was like a Russell lite game and on HvV he was outplayed by Russell that got himself ousted. I agree with the rest of that list though. Kim and Earl would be people I'd replace them with from what I've read, BR on redemption island has to be up there. " further yourself to the goal: winning" being a good strategist does not mean it'll lead you to a win. People on the jury don't always vote for the most strategic. But russell is definitely on the lower end of this list
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2016 21:57:34 GMT -5
Everybody wanted to be the one to get him out in AS and if I remember correctly he said as a result he really didn't try much strategically. On that list, I'd probably sub out Tom, just cause I never enjoyed Palau that much to remember it very well and I remember him being more challenge-oriented than anything. Yeah I song even think he took all stars seriously since the winners and big stars knew they were in trouble like Rob C, Tina, Ethan, etc. Tom did win a lot of challenges, but he always outplayed anybody who tried to make moves against him and was 2 steps ahead. Final 7, girls try to get together to get Tom/Ian out and Tom has Caryn locked up and shuts it down. Final 6, Tom sees how close Katie has gotten to Gregg/Jenn and flips vote on Gregg and strongarms Katie into voting out Gregg or going to rocks. He was only immune for maybe 2 or 3 votes, but he was constantly ahead of people like Katie that they could never get him out. This is the move I was thinking about when I put him on my list
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Post by Jhonmarco on Jun 6, 2016 22:24:21 GMT -5
Yeah Russell and Boston Rob are a no for me. As an example, Russell taking out Danielle was a bad strategic move as it out him in a 100% losing spot no matter what. That's the main objective of the game and what being strategic is to further advance yourself to reach your goal: winning. Rob clearly did well on his last season, but Marquesas was full of blunders. All Stars was like a Russell lite game and on HvV he was outplayed by Russell that got himself ousted. I agree with the rest of that list though. Kim and Earl would be people I'd replace them with from what I've read, BR on redemption island has to be up there. " further yourself to the goal: winning" being a good strategist does not mean it'll lead you to a win. People on the jury don't always vote for the most strategic. But russell is definitely on the lower end of this list I mean I think it should or at least you shouldn't be making moves that making you winning less and less possible.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2016 22:32:20 GMT -5
from what I've read, BR on redemption island has to be up there. " further yourself to the goal: winning" being a good strategist does not mean it'll lead you to a win. People on the jury don't always vote for the most strategic. But russell is definitely on the lower end of this list I mean I think it should or at least you shouldn't be making moves that making you winning less and less possible. ya but there's no way really knowing for sure. Jury is a mystery. Russell just has a bad read on things which, I think, relates more to the social aspect than strategy. This kinda where social/strategy overlap
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2016 22:36:21 GMT -5
last time I watched borneo was like when I was 8 so that's possible. I think the top ten have showed better strategic game but I definitely think he's up there. Who would you sub Richard in for on my list and why? What I saw from allstars, I wouldn't put hatch in my top ten. Everybody wanted to be the one to get him out in AS and if I remember correctly he said as a result he really didn't try much strategically. On that list, I'd probably sub out Tom, just cause I never enjoyed Palau that much to remember it very well and I remember him being more challenge-oriented than anything. ya that's true but I'm not sure if I believe that he didn't try. Like Richard is super arrogant and I can see him saying that when he clearly got bested. The chips were stacked against him.
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Post by Jhonmarco on Jun 6, 2016 22:49:32 GMT -5
I mean I think it should or at least you shouldn't be making moves that making you winning less and less possible. ya but there's no way really knowing for sure. Jury is a mystery. Russell just has a bad read on things which, I think, relates more to the social aspect than strategy. This kinda where social/strategy overlap Yeah it gets sketchy here, but that again ties back to his poor social game and not knowing why a jury wouldn't respect or like certain moves.
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Post by Outlast on Jun 6, 2016 22:52:09 GMT -5
Everybody wanted to be the one to get him out in AS and if I remember correctly he said as a result he really didn't try much strategically. On that list, I'd probably sub out Tom, just cause I never enjoyed Palau that much to remember it very well and I remember him being more challenge-oriented than anything. ya that's true but I'm not sure if I believe that he didn't try. Like Richard is super arrogant and I can see him saying that when he clearly got bested. The chips were stacked against him. Fair enough, I can believe that. But I'd still put him Top 10 haha
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Post by Nate on Jun 16, 2016 18:06:41 GMT -5
If you were forced to only watch a stretch of 4 seasons of your choosing and nothing else, what would it be?
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