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Post by Jgrubl on Jun 17, 2014 16:50:24 GMT -5
Makes me think that Johanna and Kenny will be partnered for exes 2 now, and with Johannas comment it makes me think the next one will be that.
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Post by Bryan on Jun 17, 2014 16:58:20 GMT -5
Makes me think that Johanna and Kenny will be partnered for exes 2 now, and with Johannas comment it makes me think the next one will be that. Uh... Kenny and Evan are barred from the Challenges due to the whole Tonya incident. I don't want to discuss it as it's a very sensitive subject and I'm not taking sides, but the reality of the matter is that MTV and BMP do not want them back on a Challenge. They could still get availability calls, but availability calls go out to basically everybody. Even Tonya has received availability calls after making it clear she will never work for BMP again.
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Post by Jgrubl on Jun 17, 2014 17:00:47 GMT -5
Makes me think that Johanna and Kenny will be partnered for exes 2 now, and with Johannas comment it makes me think the next one will be that. Uh... Kenny and Evan are barred from the Challenges due to the whole Tonya incident. I don't want to discuss it as it's a very sensitive subject and I'm not taking sides, but the reality of the matter is that MTV and BMP do not want them back on a Challenge. They could still get availability calls, but availability calls go out to basically everybody. Even Tonya has received availability calls after making it clear she will never work for BMP again. I still don't think they're 100% banned. If that were true they wouldn't allow Kenny to host after shows or be apart of them ( and yes I consider that part of the show).
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Post by Bryan on Jun 17, 2014 17:02:24 GMT -5
Uh... Kenny and Evan are barred from the Challenges due to the whole Tonya incident. I don't want to discuss it as it's a very sensitive subject and I'm not taking sides, but the reality of the matter is that MTV and BMP do not want them back on a Challenge. They could still get availability calls, but availability calls go out to basically everybody. Even Tonya has received availability calls after making it clear she will never work for BMP again. I still don't think they're 100% banned. If that were true they wouldn't allow Kenny to host after shows or be apart of them ( and yes I consider that part of the show). There's a very large difference between hosting an after show for a couple of hours and living in a Challenge environment for several weeks. BMP considers them a liability, and thus they're not going to return. I'm not BMP and I can't argue for the logic or validity of this ban, but this is just simply what they believe.
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Post by Brian on Jun 17, 2014 17:03:27 GMT -5
Someone on twitter just said that Marlon was asked to be on Free Agents but he declined due to his album.
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Post by Bryan on Jun 17, 2014 17:06:49 GMT -5
Someone on twitter just said that Marlon was asked to be on Free Agents but he declined due to his album. Do you have a link to this tweet?
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Post by Brian on Jun 17, 2014 17:09:11 GMT -5
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Post by Millionaire on Jun 17, 2014 17:32:02 GMT -5
Uh... Kenny and Evan are barred from the Challenges due to the whole Tonya incident. I don't want to discuss it as it's a very sensitive subject and I'm not taking sides, but the reality of the matter is that MTV and BMP do not want them back on a Challenge. They could still get availability calls, but availability calls go out to basically everybody. Even Tonya has received availability calls after making it clear she will never work for BMP again. I still don't think they're 100% banned. If that were true they wouldn't allow Kenny to host after shows or be apart of them ( and yes I consider that part of the show). I don't think they're 100% banned. I'm no legal expert, but the case was settled outside of court. So they shouldn't be legally banned. They're probably just viewed as a huge insurance liability, but so was CT after Duel 2... Anways, here are some additions I know about: Jisela was contacted for The Gauntlet. I even think she initially agreed, but then backed out. Donnell was contacted for Battle of the Sexes 2 but never made the cast, I think that's when his legal issues started coming to surface. Johnny from Fresh Meat was contacted for The Inferno 3. CT was at least contacted for The Ruins. People threatened to walk from the show if he made the final cast. Ryan Kehoe was going to be Davis's partner on Exes. I believe he initially accepted but then couldn't do it. I also know that Rivals 2 and Free Agents were not the intended format for their seasons. I'm also 95% sure The Gauntlet 2 was supposed to be old school vs. new school, not rookies vs. vets. Hence the Jamie situation.
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Post by Bryan on Jun 17, 2014 17:36:42 GMT -5
I still don't think they're 100% banned. If that were true they wouldn't allow Kenny to host after shows or be apart of them ( and yes I consider that part of the show). I don't think they're 100% banned. I'm no legal expert, but the case was settled outside of court. So they shouldn't be legally banned. They're probably just viewed as a huge insurance liability, but so was CT after Duel 2... Anways, here are some additions I know about: Jisela was contacted for The Gauntlet. I even think she initially agreed, but then backed out. Donnell was contacted for Battle of the Sexes 2 but never made the cast, I think that's when his legal issues started coming to surface. Johnny from Fresh Meat was contacted for The Inferno 3. CT was at least contacted for The Ruins. People threatened to walk from the show if he made the final cast. Ryan Kehoe was going to be Davis's partner on Exes. I believe he initially accepted but then couldn't do it. I also know that Rivals 2 and Free Agents were not the intended format for their seasons. I'm also 95% sure The Gauntlet 2 was supposed to be old school vs. new school, not rookies vs. vets. Hence the Jamie situation. Yeah, they're not legally banned. But BMP basically doesn't want them back on a Challenge again, and I've been told that from multiple trustworthy sources. Is it possible that they may one day change their mind? Yes, of course. But from what I know, there's currently no chance of seeing them on a Challenge. I think I've at least heard about all those before, except for the Johnnie one! Do you remember where you heard this?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 17:40:20 GMT -5
I read Jisela backed out of Battle of the Sexes 2 because she didn't want to be on a challenge with Coral.
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Post by Bryan on Jun 17, 2014 17:42:40 GMT -5
I read Jisela backed out of Battle of the Sexes 2 because she didn't want to be on a challenge with Coral. I guess that would explain her dropping out of the Gauntlet as well
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 17:46:01 GMT -5
I read Jisela backed out of Battle of the Sexes 2 because she didn't want to be on a challenge with Coral. I guess that would explain her dropping out of the Gauntlet as well I guess its bad blood from their Real World Back to New York and Road Rules The Quest crossover days. I don't blame her, Coral is the number one person I've despised on the challenge ever.
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Post by Millionaire on Jun 17, 2014 17:52:50 GMT -5
Yeah, they're not legally banned. But BMP basically doesn't want them back on a Challenge again, and I've been told that from multiple trustworthy sources. Is it possible that they may one day change their mind? Yes, of course. But from what I know, there's currently no chance of seeing them on a Challenge. I think I've at least heard about all those before, except for the Johnnie one! Do you remember where you heard this? OK, that's what I thought. People have said they're legally banned, but I always doubted it. And the Johnnie thing I've known about since 2006 when Inferno 3 was casting. It was on a forum that's now defunct. So take it as you will, but the site did accurately discover all 21 people on The Inferno 3.
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Post by Jhonmarco on Jun 17, 2014 20:30:18 GMT -5
Bryan are you on vevmo? I wanna say you are Youssarain from there, but not totally sure, lol.
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Post by Kaitlyn on Jun 17, 2014 20:55:49 GMT -5
Why did they call Svetlana so damn much if she kept saying no
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2014 22:05:29 GMT -5
Bryan are you on vevmo? I wanna say you are Youssarain from there, but not totally sure, lol. I'm thinking the same thing since vevmo just had this exact same discussion haha
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Post by Nate on Jun 17, 2014 23:36:14 GMT -5
"Cutthroat – Casey Cooper was asked and said no. Bronne Bruzgo backed out a couple days before and was replaced by Dunbar Merrill." "Rivals – Katie Doyle was supposed to be Sarah's initial Rival and had to back out a week prior to filming; she was replaced by Katelynn Cusanelli." " Abram Boise and Adam Larson were attempted, but Adam declined" "There was an alternate Road Rules team consisting of Rachel Robinson, Katie Doyle, Darrell Taylor, and Derrick Kosinski" " Callie Walker, Emily Schromm, Ty Ruff, and Josh Colon from DC with Mike Manning as an alternate were originally a team, but they were dropped when Callie became pregnant." " Marie Roda, Svetlana Shusterman, Landon Lueck, and Anastasia Miller were asked, and declined." Thank you for this Bryan. Very interesting.
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Post by itsdany on Jun 18, 2014 2:18:06 GMT -5
DAMMIT I WANT SVETLANA BACK SO BAD I understand why they would keep asking her but if I was them I would stop tbh
this is amazing thank you so much I was always curious
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 16:33:19 GMT -5
I still don't think they're 100% banned. If that were true they wouldn't allow Kenny to host after shows or be apart of them ( and yes I consider that part of the show). I don't think they're 100% banned. I'm no legal expert, but the case was settled outside of court. So they shouldn't be legally banned. They're probably just viewed as a huge insurance liability, but so was CT after Duel 2... Anways, here are some additions I know about: Jisela was contacted for The Gauntlet. I even think she initially agreed, but then backed out. Donnell was contacted for Battle of the Sexes 2 but never made the cast, I think that's when his legal issues started coming to surface. Johnny from Fresh Meat was contacted for The Inferno 3. CT was at least contacted for The Ruins. People threatened to walk from the show if he made the final cast. Ryan Kehoe was going to be Davis's partner on Exes. I believe he initially accepted but then couldn't do it. I also know that Rivals 2 and Free Agents were not the intended format for their seasons. I'm also 95% sure The Gauntlet 2 was supposed to be old school vs. new school, not rookies vs. vets. Hence the Jamie situation.You're correct. It was supposed to be old school versus new school and production was even thinking about making age the division between the two teams prior filming. Some other interesting format/title changes for other seasons: - The Ruins was originally titled "The Pit". - Battle of the Seasons was originally going to have 40 castmembers (yes 40), but they changed it to 32 a few weeks before they started filming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 16:51:15 GMT -5
Bryan, I got more you could add that I'm completely sure of (some I remembered completely and did research to back it up):
Battle of the Seasons - Jo and Puck were a confirmed team prior filming, but were axed right before filming began for unknown reasons.
Battle of the Sexes - Keri (RW Chicago), Cara (RW Chicago), and Becky (RW New York) were initially cast, but were replaced right before filming.
Gauntlet - Malik (RW New York) and Timmy Beggy were apart of the initial cast.
Battle of the Sexes 2 - Beth Stolarcyzk was originally cast on the Battle of the Sexes 2, but dropped out last minute. Cynthia Roberts was her replacement.
Gauntlet 2 - Angela Timbur got the call to do it and considered participating, but denied the opportunity. Tina Barta was heavily rumored to be on the Gauntlet 2 just days before filming, but never made the official cast.
The Duel - Julie Stoffer was in the original cast, but was replaced a week before filming.
Inferno 3 - Dan Renzi was contacted and was asked to participate, but denied the opportunity. Jose Tapia was heavily rumored to be apart of the Inferno 3 cast during filming.
Free Agents - Katie Doyle was asked, but didn't accept the opportunity to participate.
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