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Post by briqsquad on Oct 4, 2013 0:41:24 GMT -5
I am going to say Kenny is the best political player he's only an average competitor and has made 7 finals in 8 challenges. Yeah, Kenny's the best political and social player of all time. That's a definite. Mark Long has the best social game of all time and then Kenny is second
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Post by briqsquad on Oct 4, 2013 1:06:25 GMT -5
Haha just for the sake of the debate, who do you guys think is the better player: Susie or Veronica? Tough one, Veronica managed to persuade the entire Road Rules team on the Inferno (even professionals such as Timmy and Holly) to throw missions in order to get rid of Katie. Susie on the other hand, tried to play the alliance game on the Gauntlet 2 with Cara but got rat out by Jillian and was protected by Cara a few times on the Inferno 3. Veronica was more disliked than Susie, so Susie would outlast her in a game of chess easily (people would side with Susie more). Susie probably gets the edge because Veronica blew her chance to get rid of Emily on Battle of the Sexes after the Battle of the Opposite Sexes mission and Emily in returned got rid of Veronica. Susie showed no mercy more in her turn to villain. good analysis superboy
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 2:41:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Kenny's the best political and social player of all time. That's a definite. Mark Long has the best social game of all time and then Kenny is second Mark gets to the end because he is a strong competitor and he's the godfather I don't think he does much politicking. Its like Timmy people view him as an asset and they respect him so they don't want him to go home.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 4:31:00 GMT -5
I think Coral is the best social player ever based on her works on the Gauntlet and Inferno respectively. She was the last remaining female on both of those seasons for Real World despite the fact that she was a bad performer. It shows her social abilities and ability to manipulate. Kenny's only strong work was on Fresh Meat 2, on the Island he followed behind Johnny. He was always in the backseat (along with Derrick) of JEKD's car, Evan and Johnny were in the front seats (don't know who takes the steering wheel though).
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Post by briqsquad on Oct 4, 2013 14:11:31 GMT -5
Mark Long has the best social game of all time and then Kenny is second Mark gets to the end because he is a strong competitor and he's the godfather I don't think he does much politicking. Its like Timmy people view him as an asset and they respect him so they don't want him to go home. Are politics and social the same?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 15:07:16 GMT -5
Mark gets to the end because he is a strong competitor and he's the godfather I don't think he does much politicking. Its like Timmy people view him as an asset and they respect him so they don't want him to go home. Are politics and social the same? Social game wise, yeah you can argue that, because of others respect for Mark. He has a high status on these. However times he doesn't see vote offs and eliminations is because he does so well. Kenny, unlike Mark, is average and runs the game in terms of social and political game. Social game and political game are almost the same thing. Politics has more to do with smart moves and orchestrated plans. Kenny is one of the best at both (the best at politics with Evan, and best at social game with Mark perhaps and Darrell not too far behind). Social game is more like Mark and Darrell, who don't see many eliminations because of friendships and staying in lines with the house.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:26:12 GMT -5
I think Coral is the best social player ever based on her works on the Gauntlet and Inferno respectively. She was the last remaining female on both of those seasons for Real World despite the fact that she was a bad performer. It shows her social abilities and ability to manipulate. Kenny's only strong work was on Fresh Meat 2, on the Island he followed behind Johnny. He was always in the backseat (along with Derrick) of JEKD's car, Evan and Johnny were in the front seats (don't know who takes the steering wheel though). I always saw Evan and Kenny as the leaders of JEK and for the Island Kenny saved Johnny's a** with making that move with Evelyn. Johnny has always been at the bottom of JEK until Kenny and Evan stopped coming on the shows I don't know where you got the idea of Johnny being the leader. Johnny was the one thrown in on the Ruins NOT Kenny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:30:30 GMT -5
I always saw Evan and Kenny as the leaders of JEK and for the Island Kenny saved Johnny's a** with making that move with Evelyn. Johnny has always been at the bottom of JEK until Kenny and Evan stopped coming on the shows I don't know where you got the idea of Johnny being the leader. Johnny was the one thrown in on the Ruins NOT Kenny. Johnny was thrown in the Ruins because he was seen as the weakest of the four from a physical standpoint.
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Post by briqsquad on Oct 4, 2013 16:32:29 GMT -5
Social/politics- Kenny
Competitor/strategy- Johnny.
They're basically even, except johnny gets more lucky
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:34:05 GMT -5
Johnny was the head of the mod alliance on the Island, Kenny and Derrick were his sidekicks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:36:12 GMT -5
I always saw Evan and Kenny as the leaders of JEK and for the Island Kenny saved Johnny's a** with making that move with Evelyn. Johnny has always been at the bottom of JEK until Kenny and Evan stopped coming on the shows I don't know where you got the idea of Johnny being the leader. Johnny was the one thrown in on the Ruins NOT Kenny. Johnny was thrown in the Ruins because he was seen as the weakest of the four from a physical standpoint. Haha no he was at the bottom of the alliance I think the fact they Kenny and Evan didn't go along with his dumb plan to get rid of Susie shows that he's not the leader.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:38:30 GMT -5
Haha no he was at the bottom of the alliance I think the fact they Kenny and Evan didn't go along with his dumb plan to get rid of Susie shows that he's not the leader. Haha YES! Johnny was the weakest of the four from a competitive standpoint, it had nothing to do with being at the bottom of their alliance from a political standpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:38:43 GMT -5
Johnny was the head of the mod alliance on the Island, Kenny and Derrick were his sidekicks. mod alliance? This isn't a forum. Kenny actually carried Johnny through that season no one even liked Johnny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:42:51 GMT -5
Haha no he was at the bottom of the alliance I think the fact they Kenny and Evan didn't go along with his dumb plan to get rid of Susie shows that he's not the leader. Haha YES! Johnny was the weakest of the four from a competitive standpoint, it had nothing to do with being at the bottom of their alliance from a political standpoint. When did Johnny do anything that showed he was the leader on the Island and the Ruins? Please answer this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:47:36 GMT -5
mod alliance? This isn't a forum. Kenny actually carried Johnny through that season no one even liked Johnny. Johnny was the f*cking leader!! He got Derrick to back him twice that season (both in their face against Abram and against Cohutta). And when Evelyn made her epic speech, she said I'm going after your captain and took Johnny's key.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:55:17 GMT -5
mod alliance? This isn't a forum. Kenny actually carried Johnny through that season no one even liked Johnny. Johnny was the f*cking leader!! He got Derrick to back him twice that season (both in their face against Abram and against Cohutta). And when Evelyn made her epic speech, she said I'm going after your captain and took Johnny's key. That doesn't show that he was leading the politics it shows that Derrick knew no matter what he was safe so he went in to make sure Johnny won the elimination because Johnny would lose the vote off. Which shows that Johnny didn't have as much power as Derrick to get the votes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 17:02:44 GMT -5
That doesn't show that he was leading the politics it shows that Derrick knew no matter what he was safe so he went in to make sure Johnny won the elimination because Johnny would lose the vote off. Which shows that Johnny didn't have as much power as Derrick to get the votes. Whatever man! Coral is the best social player all time for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 17:52:13 GMT -5
Yeah there's no way Johnny was the leader on the Island or the Ruins. Even Derrick was ahead of him. Kenny and Evan threw in Johnny instead of Derrick on the Ruins. There's even a daily where Kenny and Evan discussing in the balcony their plan to throw in Johnny. Johnny's social game sucked on the Island, he was covered by Kenny and his group of friends.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 18:07:25 GMT -5
Yeah there's no way Johnny was the leader on the Island or the Ruins. Even Derrick was ahead of him. Kenny and Evan threw in Johnny instead of Derrick on the Ruins. There's even a daily where Kenny and Evan discussing in the balcony their plan to throw in Johnny. Johnny's social game sucked on the Island, he was covered by Kenny and his group of friends. Did Evelyn not call Johnny the captain of the alliance during her speech?? Did Derrick not follow behind Johnny during the challenge?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 18:32:58 GMT -5
Yeah there's no way Johnny was the leader on the Island or the Ruins. Even Derrick was ahead of him. Kenny and Evan threw in Johnny instead of Derrick on the Ruins. There's even a daily where Kenny and Evan discussing in the balcony their plan to throw in Johnny. Johnny's social game sucked on the Island, he was covered by Kenny and his group of friends. Did Evelyn not call Johnny the captain of the alliance during her speech?? Did Derrick not follow behind Johnny during the challenge? Evelyn had her opinion about who was the leader but Kenny's actions showed he was the one in power. I already explained the Derrick situation.
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