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Post by ZeroRed on Sept 8, 2015 1:33:00 GMT -5
First off congrats to all of you for making it to the F3.
Jimmy, Bryan, and Vova before I ask you guys my questions to all of you, I will give you my perspective of how I view each of you and a tip I’ll give you all is that all you guys are being passive and that’s not going to get it done, don't be passive in your response:
Jimmy- Good job on making it to the F3, you were the only person that I actually approached on my own accord and pmed first when the game started and it’s a shame that the game played out to where we couldn’t actually have each other’s back 100%, but in terms of your game:
Strategic- you played dead and was dragged then you got the jump on the pm to make this F3, but as both Vova and Bryan stated they both were going to as well and when it was Magnum and Cole the other players left, of course you 3 will take one another so I can’t give this as the definitively move for you, and from what I know it seems that idoling Stan was Ashley, not you so IDK what else you did besides having some luck.
Physical- You threw comps. during the merge, but you still got 1 win, but that was on a challenge that wound up being designed to have Alex not win, so understand that this really means very little.
Social- I had no problem with you, everyone knew where you were for the most part, but you can’t beat Vova or Bryan in terms of social game.
Vova- Congrats on making it to F3, you are awesome dude and you definitely have proven your skill in being able to get to the end:
Strategic- You were always in the majority and always made sure you always were, you showed great instincts in this game i.e. when you told me you told me Jimmy had the idol, and while it was slightly off, it still was a good showing of instincts, but the flip at F5 while not that highly viewed by me since it was the only move you guys have, but Jimmy still gets the move marked for him so then what move do I hold for you? it would have to be voting for Tom at F8 which would have been the best move IMO between you 3, BUT when it was actually Magnum who got you to SWITCH your vote to Tom that again shows the lack of an aggressive move on your part when your standout move was not really your own. FWIW your game had the least amount of luck involved.
Physical- You threw comps. as well, but I will note that you also did better than Cole at the F4 which was basically the objective that round.
Social- You were great with everyone even Nate who didn’t bother to actually enforce the min. 1 confessional per round rule and your social game is what got you to the end.
Bryan- I’m glad to see you make it, I knew I wanted to be allies with you this game. I feel that your game is basically the lovechild of Jimmy and Vova’s game that was clutch at comps:
Strategic- You were in the majority to begin with and then played dead to survive, you also had some luck in your game Physical- you easily have the best physical game with both your wins being clutch F6 you won and became the solo man at F5 and I finished second so it could have been either you or me that round, and it was me, F4 you won and prevented Cole from winning though Vova also did better than Cole so that’s not as big.
Social- This is your best aspect overall as your social game got you to the end.
Questions
Jimmy:
1. Who do you think played the better social game Bryan or Vova? And why?
2. The ideal F3 for all of you was to get to the end with each other, but tell me: at the start of the game, start of merge, and after Ashley was voted out, who were in your ideal F3’s at each time for you to win? And why? using only the info you had at the time.
Vova:
1. At the start of the game, start of merge, and after E was voted out, who were in your ideal F3’s at each time for you to win? And why? using only the info you had at the time.
2. Who would you vote for between Jimmy and Bryan? And why?
Bryan:
1. WTF happened F12 when there was the chance to flip on the anti-vets and go with Alaina, Ashley, and Jimmy, you mentioned bringing it up to Briq, but the only thing that I heard was that you switched votes with Alex? Did you not trust Alex and me at the time? Explain please.
2. Who would you vote for between Jimmy and Vova? And why?
Final Question for all 3- If in the event none of you wow me and I’m forced to choose because I have to, then pick a number between 1-77 and closest to my number MAY get my vote.
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Post by Coke on Sept 8, 2015 8:16:37 GMT -5
Final Question for all 3- If in the event none of you wow me and I’m forced to choose because I have to, then pick a number between 1-77 and closest to my number MAY get my vote. They did not find the idol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 11:23:24 GMT -5
I don't think my social game was abysmal. I didn't PM everyone in the game because I'm not fake like that. I had civil, nice conversations with people including Stan. As for what I contributed, I was quiet but within my group I talked a bit. Again I had plenty of failed plans. I talked to Ricardo about flipping, many times, it didn't work. I talked to Vova. I tried reaching out to Alex to get him to vote with us. It also didn't work. I tried again with him. One of my exact quotes to him was "I threw that last challenge to get rid of Stan. I took that risk for my allies. Alaina and Ashley. There's no big group here. We know we're outnumbered and I honestly reached out to you not to use your vote but for you to join us. You wouldn't have been just a tag along but a key member of a budding 4 person alliance." One of the other aspects of my game was not letting all these defeats get to me. I may have said stuff to Expert and Stan but I knew there was no way they would break so it didn't matter and I was working my Phil Shepard angle but when it came to Ricardo, Alex or others in the event that the window was still open to work with them I had to be civil. I had to sit there and take the lies with a smile. It sucked. Now when Stan left and Alaina joined our tribe we could have throw and voted Alex or Bryan but we knew that it wouldn't exactly help us and if we kept them it might gain favor from them and they were our best chance to gain allies at that point. When I said to take me out I didn't mean it, I swear to that. Trust me when I say I was invested in this game. Throwing comps and trashing people isn't the best play in the world, it's a hail mary but sometimes when the hail mary is your only play it works. And one final thing and this isn't something you said I think Cole called me a pawn for him and Magnum. I take major offense to this I am and never will be a pawn for anybody in this game or any game. Just because they brought me in did not mean I was going to do whatever they wanted. I still thought every action and vote through. When others came to me about flipping I thought hard about if it benefited ME not the others. It just so happened that flipping didn't benefit me until final 5. At the earlier points, see I genuinely thought Magnum and Cole were going to try to bring me to final 3 so it made sense for me to vote with them, as soon as I saw the way out I took it. Knowing that expert and Stan won't break, shouldn't be burning potential jury votes is all I'm saying. There's a different way of going about it that could've helped you gain possible allies and maybe that 1 to 2 jury votes that seals the win. Idk why, out of any survivor player in the history of Survivor, you would try to imitate Philip. You're basically saying you wanted to be a goat. I admire your end game tho, I think that's one of the hardest aspects in this game. You presented yourself as a weak player but then took charge at the most important part of the game, which is something I lacked in my 2 last fourm games. Problem is Bryan and Vova also played a good end game. One more question, Who are the people, that you got to play with (so not outlast, dewie,Kenny etc..)did you talk game with? I feel as if I've answered this question a few times in my various answers. I talked game with everyone on the jury to some extent with the exception of yourself and Expert.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 11:30:01 GMT -5
1. Vova is a solid dude. I'd let him babysit my future children. 2. Has Bryan answered a jury question yet? He's also a slow replyer because I assume he is one of the rare people to still use dial up internet. 3. Because I did and was willing to do whatever it took to get to the end. Lay in the weeds? Sure. Backstab the two guys who gave me life again? Sure. Idol Stan out of the game? Sure. Use the cards I was dealt to the best of my ability? Sure. 2016: I've been a big Marco Rubio guy for a while but I'm a Trump guy and I don't care what anyone thinks about it. your answer to 3 is good enough. your answers to 1 and 2 are lackluster at best, 1 specifically. I came in with an open mind to voting for you, if you don't elaborate you lose my vote I want well thought out responds from all 3 of you on all 3 questions, more than a few sentences 1. Vova was in the majority alliance much of the game and was friendly with all of them. I don't think anybody would say they had issues with Vova when it came to the game, maybe they did when he voted them out but I don't think he went out of his way to be rude to people. Much like I was the last surviving person from my alliance he was the last surviving player of his. 2. Bryan wasn't the best communicator. As I said. As nice of a guy as he was I think most of you know he was busy and didn't reply to people on time and it appears caused some confusion at a couple votes because of it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 11:41:18 GMT -5
First off congrats to all of you for making it to the F3. Jimmy, Bryan, and Vova before I ask you guys my questions to all of you, I will give you my perspective of how I view each of you and a tip I’ll give you all is that all you guys are being passive and that’s not going to get it done, don't be passive in your response: Jimmy- Good job on making it to the F3, you were the only person that I actually approached on my own accord and pmed first when the game started and it’s a shame that the game played out to where we couldn’t actually have each other’s back 100%, but in terms of your game: Strategic- you played dead and was dragged then you got the jump on the pm to make this F3, but as both Vova and Bryan stated they both were going to as well and when it was Magnum and Cole the other players left, of course you 3 will take one another so I can’t give this as the definitively move for you, and from what I know it seems that idoling Stan was Ashley, not you so IDK what else you did besides having some luck. Physical- You threw comps. during the merge, but you still got 1 win, but that was on a challenge that wound up being designed to have Alex not win, so understand that this really means very little. Social- I had no problem with you, everyone knew where you were for the most part, but you can’t beat Vova or Bryan in terms of social game. Vova- Congrats on making it to F3, you are awesome dude and you definitely have proven your skill in being able to get to the end: Strategic- You were always in the majority and always made sure you always were, you showed great instincts in this game i.e. when you told me you told me Jimmy had the idol, and while it was slightly off, it still was a good showing of instincts, but the flip at F5 while not that highly viewed by me since it was the only move you guys have, but Jimmy still gets the move marked for him so then what move do I hold for you? it would have to be voting for Tom at F8 which would have been the best move IMO between you 3, BUT when it was actually Magnum who got you to SWITCH your vote to Tom that again shows the lack of an aggressive move on your part when your standout move was not really your own. FWIW your game had the least amount of luck involved. Physical- You threw comps. as well, but I will note that you also did better than Cole at the F4 which was basically the objective that round. Social- You were great with everyone even Nate who didn’t bother to actually enforce the min. 1 confessional per round rule and your social game is what got you to the end. Bryan- I’m glad to see you make it, I knew I wanted to be allies with you this game. I feel that your game is basically the lovechild of Jimmy and Vova’s game that was clutch at comps: Strategic- You were in the majority to begin with and then played dead to survive, you also had some luck in your game Physical- you easily have the best physical game with both your wins being clutch F6 you won and became the solo man at F5 and I finished second so it could have been either you or me that round, and it was me, F4 you won and prevented Cole from winning though Vova also did better than Cole so that’s not as big. Social- This is your best aspect overall as your social game got you to the end. Questions Jimmy: 1. Who do you think played the better social game Bryan or Vova? And why? 2. The ideal F3 for all of you was to get to the end with each other, but tell me: at the start of the game, start of merge, and after Ashley was voted out, who were in your ideal F3’s at each time for you to win? And why? using only the info you had at the time. Vova: 1. At the start of the game, start of merge, and after E was voted out, who were in your ideal F3’s at each time for you to win? And why? using only the info you had at the time. 2. Who would you vote for between Jimmy and Bryan? And why? Bryan: 1. WTF happened F12 when there was the chance to flip on the anti-vets and go with Alaina, Ashley, and Jimmy, you mentioned bringing it up to Briq, but the only thing that I heard was that you switched votes with Alex? Did you not trust Alex and me at the time? Explain please. 2. Who would you vote for between Jimmy and Vova? And why? Final Question for all 3- If in the event none of you wow me and I’m forced to choose because I have to, then pick a number between 1-77 and closest to my number MAY get my vote. 1. This may be an unpopular opinion but I'm going to say Bryan. Even being a slow replyer and what not, the conversations I had with Bryan felt way more genuine. Vova came off as really fake to me. Early on he sent me a PM with the title "orange juice is good" and immediately when I read the title I thought to myself, what is he writing everyone in the game and giving us odd topic sentences so it's organized in his inbox? Plus he would just stop talking to me and then once something happened like idoling Stan or something else big or when he needed something he would send me a PM as if we were best buds. Idk I saw right through it very easily. Also I think Vova's social game gets a boost because his whole alliance is on the jury. So of course he talked a lot with those guys. 2. When the game started my ideal final 3 would have been myself, Alaina and then one of Stan/Outlast/Ashley/Kenny or any of my perceived allies at the time. Now this is before any votes are read and peoples real intentions were shown. At the start of merge it would have been Ashley/Alaina and myself. At this point they were the ones I had left that I felt like I could trust with anything in this game. When Ashley left I wouldn't say I thought about final 3 yet. I knew I didn't want Expert or Briq in it though. 1-77 18
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Post by Bryan on Sept 8, 2015 14:02:30 GMT -5
1. WTF happened F12 when there was the chance to flip on the anti-vets and go with Alaina, Ashley, and Jimmy, you mentioned bringing it up to Briq, but the only thing that I heard was that you switched votes with Alex? Did you not trust Alex and me at the time? Explain please. Number one I think I can chalk this up to the stupid situation where I was busy and that caused confusion. If you look in my confessional afterward you'll see I literally had to run to the bathroom at work to cast my vote in time and I didn't have a lot of time to strategize. What I do remember though is Briq kept pushing for Ashley to leave and I kept trying to slyly bring it up to keep her around but it didn't seem like anyone was gonna listen, they all wanted her out. I switched votes with Alex because I didn't want to specifically vote for Ashley. I gave her my word I wouldn't vote her out and I didn't want to go back on that even if she was gonna be voted out regardless. At that point I think I trusted Alex and you a little but not a lot because we hadn't talked much since Hanh dissolved. Later in the game I began to trust you a lot more.
2. Who would you vote for between Jimmy and Vova? And why? I would vote for Vova because I feel like overall his social and strategic games were better than Jimmy's. He was never on the bottom and he always had a lot of friends and was able to keep himself in the majority, which Jimmy just happened to get into because we spared him and he was a vote.
My number is 77 cause I like that number
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 8, 2015 15:09:00 GMT -5
*Briq finally sits down...* *..SIKE!!!!!! Motherf*cka I'm goin all night!*
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Post by violet vova on Sept 8, 2015 15:47:42 GMT -5
Vova- Congrats on making it to F3, you are awesome dude and you definitely have proven your skill in being able to get to the end: Strategic- You were always in the majority and always made sure you always were, you showed great instincts in this game i.e. when you told me you told me Jimmy had the idol, and while it was slightly off, it still was a good showing of instincts, but the flip at F5 while not that highly viewed by me since it was the only move you guys have, but Jimmy still gets the move marked for him so then what move do I hold for you? it would have to be voting for Tom at F8 which would have been the best move IMO between you 3, BUT when it was actually Magnum who got you to SWITCH your vote to Tom that again shows the lack of an aggressive move on your part when your standout move was not really your own. FWIW your game had the least amount of luck involved. Physical- You threw comps. as well, but I will note that you also did better than Cole at the F4 which was basically the objective that round. Social- You were great with everyone even Nate who didn’t bother to actually enforce the min. 1 confessional per round rule and your social game is what got you to the end. Vova: 1. At the start of the game, start of merge, and after E was voted out, who were in your ideal F3’s at each time for you to win? And why? using only the info you had at the time. 2. Who would you vote for between Jimmy and Bryan? And why? Final Question for all 3- If in the event none of you wow me and I’m forced to choose because I have to, then pick a number between 1-77 and closest to my number MAY get my vote. Just want to say thanks and it was a pleasure playing with you. I still don't understand as to why Jimmy gets the sole credit for that Magnam vote off. I mean me and Bryan both did say we would do this and it would happen eventually, we're just busy. I guess because he created the pm? again busy too have made one, but I was going too. And yeah Magnam and I did talk but I always knew that voting out Tom would be the best choice for my game, but I had made a promise to the guy and I didn't want to feel bad going against him, but it had to be done. Again, it was only a strategic gameplay. Magnam did help my head get clear and play with the purpose of the game and not take it personal and I do thank him RQ for him chatting with me. At that point he was the guy I trust the most rq. So it was only right to tell him what I was thinking. Well, after E was voted off, I had lost a major ally and it was a shame. But I automatically knew that Cole and Magnam had set this up because prior to E getting voted off, they said that a huge move would come sooner rather than later for us three to take control of the game. Anyway, although I did lose E, I still had Cole and Magnam that would have taken me to the final three guaranteed. But I knew I'd have a tough chance beating them, so I knew that they both had to go. I even talked to both Briq and Tom and we all knew that you guys were running the show. But I really didn't have a final 3 decided, because if I took Mags and Cole, it'd would be harder for me to win. And I actually did fight for Briq/Tom to stay, but knew that the best decision was to vote them off even though it sucked voting off your friends. But, I will tell you this though, I wanted Jimmy in the final because I knew he was playing a similar game as floater (sorry jimmy lol. you're the bro) and Magnam had told me he had Jimmy in his hands. But I was still undecided who I'd take in the Final Three, but I knew that with whatever decision I'd make I'd still end up being in the final, it's just with whom I'd end up with was the concern. To be honest, I'd vote for Bryan. Sorry Jimmy, but I feel that Bryan played a better game than Jimmy, both socially and strategically. They both did have luck play apart of their game, I just felt that Jimmy was more luckier to have both Magnam and Cole pick him up, same with how Briq helped me in Tonga. And although some think Jimmy played the underdog role, it didn't seem like that. Isn't an underdog supposed to fight? I felt that I was more of a underdog in Tonga but I fought and earned my way to the final with the addition of luck while getting bashed by the jury. To me it seemed as if Jimmy was dragged on because he was spared. But Bryan played a sufficient game throughout because he had a good social game while using that to his advantage, and strategized from what access he had and how he would adjust to improve his gameplay. and i bet nate is happy rn, i choose the number 37 because im a boss
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 16:18:02 GMT -5
Being too busy to create a PM...
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Post by violet vova on Sept 8, 2015 16:28:13 GMT -5
ya boy was ballin'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 16:48:36 GMT -5
just submitted my vote. With that being said good luck to all of you
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Post by Nate on Sept 8, 2015 17:56:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 18:02:18 GMT -5
Kinda hoping this goes 3-3-3, because then Nates gonna have to vote the winner
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Post by Nate on Sept 8, 2015 18:04:45 GMT -5
I doubt any of you like what happens if there's a 3-3-3 tie lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 21:11:24 GMT -5
I doubt any of you like what happens if there's a 3-3-3 tie lol I do...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 21:31:59 GMT -5
I doubt any of you like what happens if there's a 3-3-3 tie lol
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Post by Magnum on Sept 8, 2015 21:46:24 GMT -5
Are there no closing statements?
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 8, 2015 21:56:30 GMT -5
Are there no closing statements? You gotta couple more days?
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Post by Coke on Sept 8, 2015 22:19:12 GMT -5
f*ck closing statements I wanna read confessionals.
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 8, 2015 22:20:46 GMT -5
F*CK closing statements I wanna read confessionals. and interviews and americas thread
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