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Post by briqsquad on Sept 6, 2015 23:25:18 GMT -5
Vova: Phenomenal social game brotha. You were a F2 on tonga (lost to me by 1 vote), a F4 on BB, and now a F3 on Allstars. Crazy thing is, no one considers you a threat! Idk how you do it but props. My question is, on my vote, why didnt you vote to keep me? Bryan did and if you did it would've been a tie and I could've maybe flipped alex or something and your closes ally wouldve been in the game. So were in on me going home or were you not? Tell the truth because I can just ask mags and cole. Also, explain to me why you switched your vote 8 mins before the deadline on the Tom vote? Why did you need to be convinced? At that time I thought it was the best choice for me and the one that made the most sense. Because I thought it would be too much of a risk for it to go to a tie and possibly it drawing rocks. I didn't want one of my closest allies and the realest homies leaving. But I thought that it would help me out in later on the game and that time it made sense. And I wasn't in on getting rid of you, it wasn't in my intentions, but others felt that you were just too much of a threat and that you'd find a way to win the game, same with why Expert left. That idea was Magnam's and Cole's idea, I'm not going to take any credit from them. And I'm sure they'll agree with me. However, I thought that voting you out would make my relationship with both Alex/Ricardo improve, but I still had my doubts. Like I said before, I always knew that voting out Jimmy I wouldn't benefit from it because I knew if I reached the final five, I'd be the first to go. And I wanted to keep my word I made to Tom because I felt that it would be, personally, a good thing to do. Also, if I wasn't so busy that day I would have talked to Magnam a lot sooner, but we discussed it later that day. Keeping in mind that I knew I wasn't thinking strategically but personally. Magnam did help me acknowledge that I shouldn't take the game personally and that I should do the right thing. And so I did, knowing it was the best choice for me while making Tom really pissed off at me, which, I don't blame him. So when you voted for me the intention was to take me out to better your game? Or was it solely to gain the others trust? You knew Bryan was voting jimmy out?
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 10:29:53 GMT -5
Enchilada: I believe that I am the greatest of all time (there are many with this belief), do you agree with me or am I just completely delusional and out of my mind?
I would say you are completely delusional and out of your mind. Your post actually reminded me of Superboy, which amused me. You said yourself in your post, "I know it doesn't make much sense, but it does." And yeah, it kind of didn't make any sense. Although I totally love your self-confidence. That's definitely something admirable. But in all seriousness throughout the game your comments and posts cracked me up. If you wanna be the GOAT, then go out there and be the GOAT.
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 10:59:07 GMT -5
My computer has crashed THREE times while trying to type this I wanna die.
COLE: What 3 people do you feel deserve to be in the final 3 over you? First of all I'd like to respond to a comment you made about me. Can I do that? Idc I'm doing it anyway. "UTR is a strategy I respect if people just came out and said they played UTR." I think that's the point I was trying to get to in my opening statement, I just never got to those exact words lol. But at that point of the game I knew that the best thing for me to do was just to lowkey slide on by so that turned out to be the strategy I adopted, is being UTR. That's what I meant by saying "strategic". Sorry I didn't make that clearer.
As for your question, I'd have to say you, Magnum, and Ricardo. For one, none of y'all were ever really targets until, well, your vote offs. Obviously you and Magnum played A+ strategic games and ran this bih. I would have to say that Magnum's social game was better than yours, though. As for Ricardo, well he's just like the nicest, sweetest, most inoffensive person ever. But he wasn't some doormat, he was out there strategizing and talking and trying to get things to go his way. He's honestly just an A+ person and everyone loves him. I mean, which is hard to accomplish in a game like Survivor where you inherently have to vote other people off. Anyway, yeah it's the three people who made it just before the FTC but there's a reason y'all made it that far. I remember being at the final 6 and being like "well, it's a toss up as to who makes it to the finals from here". Things just shook down the way they did but I can see y'all being here instead of us.
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 11:42:46 GMT -5
MAGNUM: what was your strategic thought process throughout the game? Things obviously didn't go your way all the time, but who were you planning to go to the end with, and what moves did you orchestrate throughout the game to lock the game down for yourself?Hey Magnum first of all I wanted to say I'm lowkey upset we didn't get to talk that much cause you seemed like such a great person. Like you were always so nice to me which you didn't have to do at all tbh. Probably would have voted for you had you made it here. In the beginning of the game I think I said my ideal final 4 would be me/Ashley/Briq/Alex just cause those were my best friends in the game lol but even I knew that was not gonna be realistic because of the way alliances were shaking down. Truthfully I was down with Tongan Mafia 100% because those were the guys I played the game with before and knew. And I KNEW that Briq, Tom, and Vova are playas and that made me really nervous but at the end of the day I just told myself I had to trust them. And even when I lost trust and got mad and almost considered flipping on them, I didn't end up doing that because I guess I really did want to go the end with them. Do you know how many people came up to me telling me to get rid of Briq and I can't trust him? I almost did consider voting him off but I try not to be a shady person and I couldn't do that to my friend. Besides the Mafia I also really wanted to bring Ash/Ricardo/Alex as far as possible. Ashley, well it just seemed inevitable that she was going to go as much as I didn't want her to. But EVERYONE was on board and no one was changing their mind. I was really conflicted but I did end up telling her the plans just in case she could pull a Vova and come up with a million idols. Alas, the efforts were futile. As for Ricardo, at first he didn't figure too highly in my plans and I'll admit to that. We lost touch after the tribe switch and everything. And after the merge I wasn't sure if I could trust him. But through our conversations I really began to believe he was with me in this and I wanted to bring him to the end. He's a great guy and I tried to stick with him as much as possible. As for Alex well he is a beast lmao and I was totally just like take me under your wing HAHAHA. Just kidding. But Alex is one of my friends and obviously I want my friends in the game with me. Even when I was sticking with the Mafia, I was planning on taking Alex with me to the end. In a way I couldn't betray any of these people and I couldn't see myself voting them off, and I didn't actually vote any of them off. Which is where the "things not going my way" came from, I guess. I just wasn't going to sit there and vote off my friends and allies who have stuck with me the whole game. Like I said, I stick to my integrity lol. So my unwillingness to backstab my friends really made it hard for me to take any sort of lead in controlling the strategy of the game. What moves did I orchestrate to lock the game down? Number one I tried to keep up my social reputation. You said that everyone seemed to like me which I totally appreciate because I tried to be as genuinely friendly with everyone as much as possible. It's no secret that, for example, Cole/you and I were not exactly on the same side for like...the majority of post-merge. But that's not going to stop me from having conversations and being a nice person. Like I said, the Social tribe was a fitting distinction for me because that's really where I excel. So specifically I tried to reach out to people and keep in contact as much as I could. And I KNOW there were problems with me not responding to my PMs in a timely manner. I was on vacation for a week and a half smack in the middle of this game. No computer, wifi, nothing and i had used 90% of my data prior to the vacation (well, my brother did but we're on the same plan) so I had to take it easy with using my phone. That's the explanation for that, lol. I'm not stupid or naive so I could see when things were going pretty badly, i.e. the Tom vote off. After that point it was 4 vs. 3 and it was just a matter of time until us 3 were picked off. Alex and Ricardo went into strategy mode; I decided to become as little of a target as possible. No offense Alex but I knew he was gonna be the first of us 3 to go; I just wanted to outlast Ricardo. I KNEW no one was gonna flip because why would they? It would be a stupid move on their part. So I played UTR until people came to their senses and voted you and Cole out. And Jimmy DOES get all the credit for starting that but believe it or not it was my intention to get us 3 to vote y'all out too. You can believe me or not believe me but I was planning on sending out that exact same PM. Okay this is getting extraordinarily long and I forgot my point HAHA so please hit me up if you need any extra clarification or questions.
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 12:01:42 GMT -5
ALAINA: 1. Describe the obstacles that you had to overcome to get to this point.
Number one was figuring out who I can trust and who I can't. Several times throughout the game I had reasons to not trust people who I thought I could. But at the end of the day I know where my friendships are and I decided I couldn't spend the whole game worrying. So that was a big obstacle, to learn to stop being so paranoid.
Obviously one of the biggest obstacles to my game was the entire stretch of game basically after E left to the final 5. Aka Cole and Magnum's reign. I was just watching my allies fall one by one, waiting for my turn. Being the last person standing of a minority alliance is hard, yo. I've already gone into detail about how I attempted to stay and everything. However, prior to this I never had any qualms about my position in the game. Even when I heard my name brought up (by Dewie for example) I felt like I was in a safe enough position.
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 12:35:10 GMT -5
ALAINA: 2. Compare everyone in this game (including nate) to someone from one of these shows. Include explanations.:
Lost One Tree Hill Gossip Girl The Challenge The OC BB (seasons 2,7,8,12-17)Literally the only show I've watched of these is the Challenge. Okay yes and a little BB too. Yes I know I am pitiful. I barely watch TV. Kyle - don't know him at all so I'm gonna go with Jeff from Fresh Meat 2 cause who is that Jamie - Brianna Taylor because I thought she was gonna be a threat based on her bio and instead she was out 2nd Lizzie - Ibis. Idk why you just seem like Ibis to me Outlast - Don't know you at all but I think you're nice lol. Derek Chavez Kenny - Santucci James - Veronica. Specifically Ruins Veronica LOL. Just cause I was expecting you to dominate and you got unlucky Joey - Knight Kaitlyn - Casey lmao. Which is not a bad thing in my book Stan - John Jacobs lmao Dewie - Bananas Phil - Timmy cause you're chill but hilarious Dusty - I'm gonna say Mike Mike. Idk why it just seems fitting Alaina - Kimberly. Sweet personality and underestimated but you can be a threat. For the record I love Kim. Ashley - Probably Coral which isn't a completely accurate comparison but you're the queen. Expert - Jordan Wiseley. Same personality. Lol Briqsquad - I'm gonna say CJ which once again isn't a completely accurate comparison but you're nice, level headed, a good player, good friend. All that. Tom - Derrick cause you never give up Alex - A mix of Danny Roberts cause you're a cutie with a great personality and Landon cause wtf at you and these challenges Ricardo - Lowkey Mark Long cause you just command respect and you're such a nice person Magnum - high key Mark Long cause you know how to play a game yet you're not a d*ck Cole - hmmm I'm gonna go with Wes but, like, on one of his good seasons Jimmy - Johnny Reilly on Free Agents Vova - Darrell lowkey Nate - Dunbar cause you suck (<3)
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 13:05:27 GMT -5
BRIQ: So explain specific strategical moves that helped put yourself in a better position. Give me an example in each phase, Social tribe, not the strength because we killed it on that tribe, then the sideline tribe and then merge.
I'M SORRY I SUCKED AT RESPONDING OMG. read my response to Magnum I explained why lol. Literally there's a week and a half in my confessional with just one post and it's like "omg what is going on I can't keep up can we just wait until I'm back from vacation". Also I was at work like 24/7 this summer. Sorry bout it but I gotta get that money haha.
Well in the Social tribe there wasn't much strategy going on because we never actually went to TC and never had to figure out who to vote off. But first of all I did make an alliance with Ricardo, like a genuine one. And that lasted all the way until he was voted out. I also tried to make friends with the vets. I knew they were probably gonna have an advantage and I probably couldn't INFILTRATE their alliance but I could get on their good side long enough to make it to a merge and link up with my other friends in the game. Oh also I was in an all boys alliance on that tribe too but I think Joey is the only one who took it seriously lol.
Now onto the first switch, honestly I think this is where I was on vacation so I don't remember it that well. My confessional literally says "I haven't been online enough to understand what's going on" lol. Which wasn't my fault!! If I could have been here I would have. But during this time I made alliances with Alex, Alaina, Phil, and this is where the whole anti vets thing came up. Honestly I'm not gonna try and spin it like I was in control at this point, I was on vacation and knew I had the anti vets to fall back on and I knew I had people who would look out for me. I felt safe enough to be able to be on vacation and not use my 10% left of data to scheme and strategize lol.
Second tribe switch, I was just in a good position honestly. It was Ashley/Jimmy and Stan/Alex and me in the middle. Safe to say I didnt think there was any way I was gonna be voted out, although it was hard because on the other hand I didn't particularly want to vote any of them out. Of course I knew I had to stick with Stan and Alex because Ash and Jimmy's relationship was probably stronger. Well we all know that Stan got the boot after Jimmy played that idol. But once again I was sitting pretty and never felt threatened.
Then the merge. The first votes were to get rid of Alaina and Ashley. Honestly I didn't really want them to go and I did bring it up to you but it was just inevitable. I did give the information to Ashley in hopes she could do something with it but I could only do so much at that point. Then came the blindside. Specifically in the group message you said you were worried about the ghost vote and weren't sure if it should be this round, or something to that nature. I think we lowkey settled on E but Jimmy's name kept creeping up and I was like no, I'm sorry Briq you have to worry about this ghost vote but this is what we need to do. And then y'all went and voted for Alex which kind of sealed the fate for the rest of the game, in which Cole/Magnum took over. The rest of the game was just trying to make decisions for myself and who I could trust. I was mad and felt like I couldn't trust anyone but Alex/Ricardo but in the end I felt like I had to stick with the Mafia but since y'all voted for Alex he wasn't going to flip and vote with y'all of a sudden. So down goes you, down goes Tom even after he and I convinced Alex/Ricardo to flip. Then I'm like, well I'm in deep sh*t and just bided my time by seeming like an easy win. Then came final 5 and we were able to flip the game around on those who had been controlling it.
EDIT: oops you said not to talk about the Red tribe well anyway that was my point of view from that tribe anyway.
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 13:32:54 GMT -5
ASHLEY: Did you have a strategic game plan going into this? Was there a point in this game where you had to adapt and change it up? When and how
I did not come into this game with a set strategy, really. All I knew going in was that Tongan Mafia was gonna be a thing. I don't particularly like coming into a game with a strategy because you never know how the game is going to go. And this one was no different...as luck would have it the first tribe I ended up on I had not talked to a single other person before. But that ended up being a lucky thing for me because I was able to get to know y'all!
Like I said I think my biggest strength is being able to adapt and change up my game. And sometimes, it was necessary to stay. Obviously I didn't WANT to end up in the minority alliance mid-merge with no hopes of getting anyone to flip. what does one do in that situation? You have to be able to deal with those types of situations and figure out the best way for you to survive until you're in a position of power again. And like I said I think that's how I was able to make it this far. I was never really a target because I made smart decisions about who I should be with and how I should play the game. Like I've said before I knew I had to minimize my impact so that they would get Briq, Tom, Alex, and Ricardo out over me. But during that time I don't feel like I was completely useless. I was still talking to people, still socializing, still thinking about making it to the endgame.
I would say that I do have sort of an overall take on how I want to play the game, though. First, I like to talk to people. Duh, Social tribe. That's what I'm good at. I like making friends, having conversations, all that jazz. I know in the end it will do NO good to antagonize people or to make it to the end and realize "oh sh*t, I never even had a conversation with *jury member*". Second, I never really want to betray my friends. And at the end of the day I kept my integrity in this game and didn't flip flop, which is a hard thing to do and still make it to the end.
Thanks girl love you xoxo <3
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Post by Bryan on Sept 7, 2015 17:30:47 GMT -5
TOM: 1. Bryan, you make the case to me why I should for JIMMY over either of you If I make a campaign for myself to win then it's only fair that the same campaign can be made for Jimmy. We played similar games, only backwards sorta. He floated along for a while under the radar, never really being a target. His allies went down one by one until it was just him. And then he was able to get in a majority alliance and use that alliance to further his way to the final 5, where he DOES get credit for starting that flip to vote out Magnum and Cole. It's kind of like the reverse of me. Overall he made smart moves for himself, like choosing to not flip from the majority even though he was asked to a million times. Either way he would have been with the numbers and he was not seriously on the chopping block for a good portion of post-merge.
2. Bryan, I want you to destroy Vova’s social game (his best aspect) Vova's social game? What even. Y'all give me sh*t about not responding to PMs but it was so frustrating trying to talk to Vova. It reached a point where I just stopped PMing him. Now I obviously completely understand being busy and all but if I were on the jury instead, I'd take that into consideration with my vote. Also in regards to his social game, he flipped and voted out two of his good allies. All strategic talk aside, that just makes you look untrustworthy and leads to bitter jurors. Sure he could socially get in with the RIGHT people but he left bitter jury members and some which he barely spoke to at all. (Damn Vova sorry bro lmao)
3. And lastly, I want each of you to tell me why you yourself played the best strategic game. When was I ever a target? I never had to worry pre-merge about going home. Sure, I had allies and stuff to worry about (i.e. Stan getting idoled) but I knew my name wasn't going to be written down. Post-merge, my name wasn't brought up for a long time. The one vote I received the whole game was from Magnum...who was voted out at that TC 4-1. So, how I played must have worked. People definitely underestimate the social aspect of this game. We can go on and on about being strategic and making bold moves and running sh*t but in the end it's the relationships with the people you voted out that's going to decide the winner. Those relationships helped me get further in the game and I'm happy that I stayed true to my friends and didn't turn on them when I easily could have. Even in staying loyal to the people I was with, I was never a target even though I continuously voted in the minority. Tl;dr: being social is a valid yet underrated strategy and it was the main one I used. I was never a target, only received one vote the whole game, and I never betrayed my friends or gave people a reason to be mad at me.
2016: who are you supporting for the 2016 election, give me one answer, a real answer, don’t need reasoning Bernie Sanders #feelthebern
Also in regards to the perceived lack of effort, I hope my previous posts explained that. Jury questioning especially came at a terrible time for me but I hope these answers have been sufficient. If you have any more clarifications just ask.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 18:56:56 GMT -5
will winner be announced tomorrow Nate Dogg? FTC going slower than the last 30 minutes of school
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Post by Nate on Sept 7, 2015 19:01:29 GMT -5
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Post by violet vova on Sept 7, 2015 20:07:53 GMT -5
At that time I thought it was the best choice for me and the one that made the most sense. Because I thought it would be too much of a risk for it to go to a tie and possibly it drawing rocks. I didn't want one of my closest allies and the realest homies leaving. But I thought that it would help me out in later on the game and that time it made sense. And I wasn't in on getting rid of you, it wasn't in my intentions, but others felt that you were just too much of a threat and that you'd find a way to win the game, same with why Expert left. That idea was Magnam's and Cole's idea, I'm not going to take any credit from them. And I'm sure they'll agree with me. However, I thought that voting you out would make my relationship with both Alex/Ricardo improve, but I still had my doubts. Like I said before, I always knew that voting out Jimmy I wouldn't benefit from it because I knew if I reached the final five, I'd be the first to go. And I wanted to keep my word I made to Tom because I felt that it would be, personally, a good thing to do. Also, if I wasn't so busy that day I would have talked to Magnam a lot sooner, but we discussed it later that day. Keeping in mind that I knew I wasn't thinking strategically but personally. Magnam did help me acknowledge that I shouldn't take the game personally and that I should do the right thing. And so I did, knowing it was the best choice for me while making Tom really pissed off at me, which, I don't blame him. So when you voted for me the intention was to take me out to better your game? Or was it solely to gain the others trust? You knew Bryan was voting jimmy out? It was both Briq. I thought at that time it was the best decision and yeah i knew Bryan was voting out for Jimmy but you never knew because both Alex and Ricardo voted for you. My bad for the late response I was balling
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Post by Nate on Sept 7, 2015 21:27:15 GMT -5
*Briq sits down*
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 7, 2015 21:48:33 GMT -5
*Stands back up and moves nate prbst out of the way because I'm still waiting on Jimmys second response*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 22:21:39 GMT -5
Thanks for answering my question Nate
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Post by Nate on Sept 7, 2015 22:30:01 GMT -5
Thanks for answering my question Nate Read the signs E. Some of you still haven't asked questions, and none of you have voted.
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Post by Jacob on Sept 7, 2015 22:31:07 GMT -5
Do I even need to ask a question TBH there's already a ton for me to read and I'm not good at coming up with smart intelligent sounding questions that will actually add anything valuable to the discussion UGH i should've done this earlier before the good questions were gone
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Post by Nate on Sept 7, 2015 22:33:58 GMT -5
That's fine...but you guys needed to, like, address that you weren't going to ask questions.
If you're all done with questions, then vote by tomorrow at midnight like planned.
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Post by ZeroRed on Sept 7, 2015 22:34:57 GMT -5
I'm writing my thing now expect it in an hour or 2 ish.
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Post by Jacob on Sept 7, 2015 22:45:32 GMT -5
IM WRITING A LAB REPORT RIGHT NOW IM A LITTLE NOT FOCUSED IM SORRY IDK I DRANK ALL WEEKEND AND AM NOW REGRETTING IT BC HOMEWORK
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