Survivor: Tonga - Final Tribal Council + Reunion

[Bryan]

LMAO I'M JOKED OUT!!! Y'ALL WENT SO HARD ON THEM TWO LOL

Vova, how do you think you outwitted and outplayed me? Besides a simple "I made it farther than you". Also what did you think of my gameplay?

Briq what did you think of my gameplay? Why choose vova as the one to work with and bring to the finals over, say, Major or Azri or anyone else?

Okay my q's are lame but whatevs.

[Azri]

did you just bring vova to get an easy winning or do you have other reason to beat him ? duhhh

[violet vova]

Ima answer everything I am currently doing a FF Draft right now.

[briqsquad]

Aug 28, 2014 20:29:33 GMT -5 tsky429 said:

*clears throat, and sticks out two middle fingers*

Let me begin with what I thought I was going to be saying to both of you BEFORE reading through some answers.

Vova: You lucky son of a b*tch. You played a bad game, a bad, bad game. The only reason you are here is because I assume you have pictures of Nate in pink panties. The fact that you got to come back destroys me. Why were you gifted the opportunity to play when we were not?!? It pisses me off to no end, and knowing you are the reason I got voted out , I had some sleepless nights at Ponderosa. Here is why nobody respects you and the game you played:

1. You were given a second chance in this game, you were voted out already, in my mind the game was tarnished until you got voted out for good. I don’t blame you for coming back, why wouldn’t you take the offer, but that is why no one respects your game, you had an unfair chance none of us had.

2. You played a very poor game. Let’s start with the alliance you referenced between us at the beginning of the game. I was reaching out to everyone at that point saying the same sh*t, “what’s up, I’d love to work together, you seem cool, let’s get an alliance” You responded “yee sure bro whatever idc.” WHY WOULD I KEEP AN ALLIANCE UP WITH SOMEONE WHO GIVES ME THAT RESPONSE. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME. Let’s now fast forward to post merge. Your entire post merge strategy was garbage. It was win immunity and find HII, you did not make contact with anyone, you wanted everyone to hate you, so you can play HII. Finding and using them effectively is certainly a feather in your cap, but that can’t be your entire game and it was. Survivor is at its core, “a social experiment” you need to be good with people, but also strategic enough to know when to vote them off. You did none of this

3. You are arrogant. Responding with GIFS and SMDRQ for the entire game is like Larry King, old...Your speech to briq was keep me so I look better in the future. Terrible response. Your opening statement is basically “vote for me, if not, whatever, move on.” Not exactly the blueprint on how to receive jury votes.

Basically you played a very poor game, and the fact that you got a second chance is complete bulls*it ruined the entire game.

Briq, my speech for you BEFORE reading through the comments.

You imbecile. You had my vote. It was yours, you were going to win, you could have brought Azri to the end, who you would have beaten for sure (no offense Azri you are one of the nicest people I’ve ever encountered), and you would have taken the goat in a move that preserved the integrity of the game because Vova WAS VOTED OUT ALREADY. Bringing him is a real sh*tty thing to do because it means that this game is tarnished from start to finish. The fact that you brought him with you along with your responses in TC like “SMDRQ” to serious questions makes me think you have no respect for this game I love so much. And it makes me sick that I have to vote for one of you two. I may vote for you because like I said Vova WAS VOTED OUT ALREADY, or I may vote for Vova so this mockery of a game is complete with the first person voted out, winning and making you feel like a coward and a fool for bringing him to the end. You could have made the smart strategic move in bringing Azri and won, but you did this..DISGUSTING…

Now here are the comments and questions I have upon reading through some questions and answers.

Vova: Not much of what I said changes. The only thing is I guess you did kind of have an “alliance” but from the looks of it it’s more like you were the hoe and Briq was the pimp, and he dragged you all the way to the altar (FTC), (what a metaphor, I should be a poet). I still don’t have much/any respect for the game you played and it still really bothers me you got a second chance. I gave you too much credit for finding HII because Briq found one for you, but too little credit in your strategic because I said you had no alliances and you did have an alliance with Briq.

Briq: I don’t like the fact that you chose Vova as your shield in this game. Had you done the same exact antics with say Cloudy, and taken him to the end (or Azri), I would have nothing negative to say about your game. But it does bother me that you chose to take someone this far that shouldn’t be playing. The Mafia agreed the game was tarnished until he was eliminated, and you used him to tear us all apart, I don’t like that. I also think the smarter move would’ve been to take Azri to the end, and all I said about that stands firmly

...BUT

Besides all that, when I look at your game, there’s just one word that comes to mind: PERFECTION. Job well done, and I’m glad you proved you played the best game through the comments here, I did not expect it coming in. I envy the game you played and can do nothing but salute you bud.



Qs

Vova: When Briq approached you and gave you the idol to use on me, why not tell this to the rest of the mafia? In retrospect, this would have been better for your game and you may have had a shot and getting in on our alliance, and using the idol to blindside briq. Instead of eating out of briq’s pimphand the entire game, you would have had an alliance. If I may answer: it is because you are an imbecile. No offense, you really don’t seem like a terrible guy

2. Name 3 things you did in this game positively that don’t involve immunity, HII, or Briq, this is not an insult, this is a genuine question.

Briq:
1. When you came up with that elaborate plan to give the idol to Vova and vote me out. Why me? James was a just as big a threat physically, he had not been to tribal yet, and socially he was playing to everyone. Just wondering why me over him?

2. Name 3 mistakes you made in this game.

My last comment is to Nate: next season, T-sky vs. Vova, make it happen

First off, I want to counter some of the stuff you said. I chose vova because not many people in the jury were fond of him. Eventually I had to let the cat out of the bag and say I blindsided a couple of people and that can turn anyone away. Bringing vova allowed me to have people still hear me out and not vote against me hastily. Most of the votes I did, Vova made also, azri did not piss anyone off. So while I spill all the beans, azri is looking better and innocent while I potentially pissed people off.


I used vova because I couldnt do it to anyone else. Kennyfan and Bryan had cloudy, James had azri, Me and you had major and that left vova who I was cool with from the beginning. I literally had no choice to make a big move with anyone else because I would have been ratted out. Also convincing the Tongan mafia to vote someone else besides vova would look suspicious. I had to use vova or eventually face you and james later on which is suicide IMO.

Now to answer your questions:

1. Vova trusted james and it would be hard to sell to vote him off than you. All I told vova was, "look at the thread, Tom was pissed you came back, obviously he voted you out and he'll do it again." Once that went through, I proved James was disloyal because of all the votes were towards vova and not Kennyfan (Which James said he could get majority to vote Kennyfan) which James lied to him about. Thats how I was able to get james out.

2. One, not winning at the final four. If I didn't DQ the first part where I miscalculated my time, I would have won because I was the only won who solved the second puzzle, which would have lead me to the final 3 with Kennyfan and vova, who both would have taken me to the final. Two, maybe voting for bryan and then blaming someone else but that could have been risky, and I wasnt fully convinced to be okay with voting out bryan. I cant think of anything else tbh.

[violet vova]

Aug 28, 2014 20:43:32 GMT -5 Major said:

Well Congrats To You Both For Making It To The Final 2 Coming From Survivor: Tonga's #1 Floater Lol

My Questions For Vova:
Do You Think If You Would've Competed Against Another Eliminated Player That There Would Have Been Much Controversy About You're Return?
Also What Made You Vote Me Out In The Top 5 Instead Of Kenny Or Briq, When I Would Be Easier For You Too Beat In Challenges?

1) Not as much really. Just there was so much controversy about me is because I was the only one.
2) And Major, I had an alliance with Briq. And you were a strong competitor. Like I said before you had potential of being really good, just inactivity harmed you.

[violet vova]

Aug 28, 2014 20:47:12 GMT -5 Bryan said:

LMAO I'M JOKED OUT!!! Y'ALL WENT SO HARD ON THEM TWO LOL

Vova, how do you think you outwitted and outplayed me? Besides a simple "I made it farther than you". Also what did you think of my gameplay?

Briq what did you think of my gameplay? Why choose vova as the one to work with and bring to the finals over, say, Major or Azri or anyone else?

Okay my q's are lame but whatevs.

Bryan, to be honest with you, I really wasn't point at you. You're one of the few people I liked. And you started to bring your A game towards the end of the season. You really proved yourself. Who knows you might've not been voted out if you just had done the button challenge.

[briqsquad]

Aug 28, 2014 20:43:32 GMT -5 Major said:

Well Congrats To You Both For Making It To The Final 2 Coming From Survivor: Tonga's #1 Floater Lol

My Questions For Vova:
Do You Think If You Would've Competed Against Another Eliminated Player That There Would Have Been Much Controversy About You're Return?
Also What Made You Vote Me Out In The Top 5 Instead Of Kenny Or Briq, When I Would Be Easier For You Too Beat In Challenges?

My Questions For Briq:
What Do You Feel That You've Done To Deserve To Win Survivor: Tonga?
If You Do Win, Do You Think It'll Be Because You Played The Best Game Or Because A Lot Of The Players Have Harsh Feelings Toward Vova?

I took out players who were my threats when I had the chance. I left no room for error. Once someone was on my radar, most likely they left or got blindsided. Winning the last mission was huge for me as well, it helped me control my own fate. 

I definitely played the best game and I can say that with confidence and certainty.

[briqsquad]

Aug 28, 2014 20:47:12 GMT -5 Bryan said:

LMAO I'M JOKED OUT!!! Y'ALL WENT SO HARD ON THEM TWO LOL

Vova, how do you think you outwitted and outplayed me? Besides a simple "I made it farther than you". Also what did you think of my gameplay?

Briq what did you think of my gameplay? Why choose vova as the one to work with and bring to the finals over, say, Major or Azri or anyone else?

Okay my q's are lame but whatevs.

Your gameplay was phenomenal. You were a good competitor, and your social game was great. Everyone believed in you and no one would have voted you out unless if there was an idol or something.

I didnt really chose vova it just sort of happened. He was a big target and no one would come after me unless he left, so keeping him around was beneficial.

I was pretty loyal to Major and I dragged him as far as possible and I was probably more loyal to Kennyfan than vova tbh.

Azri was a wild card. He was the only person to vote against me I believe and he never truly told me that he had my back. He just listened to my plea and agree that was all. So I had to cut him when I had the chance.

[violet vova]

And now Tom.

Tom honestly stop being disrespectful. Those things you said were unnecessary. And again, I keep saying this I literally had nothing to do with Nate bringing me back. It was his decision. I was pleased and excited to be back and get a second chance because the first time was a blow and I couldn't do anything really. And stop saying I played a bad game bro. Honestly there is a reason why I am here. And not because I am ''Briq's b*tch''. Why do people all of a sudden assume that? I did my thing and he did his thing. And the reason I wasn't being social is because none of you guys like me. I am not stupid. And bro, I was probably tired when I wrote ''ye sure idc''. It obviously meant I did. And in the beginning I thought I was set with James and Briq. And stop saying it's unfair for us. Like I get it. What do you want me to do? Quit? I earned my share. You would've been even more pissed of if you knew you were eliminated and there was inactives still in the game.

And why are you saying you have to be good to people if you can't talk like a proper person without being so rude? You're acting like I am the villian. And yes you should be mad that the reason you were voted out was because of me. But shouldn't I be mad that you guys kept voting for me and you guys voted me out the first time?

And I am not arrogant bro. Just because I say SMDRQ doesn't mean sh*t. And gifs are funny. Nate uses it, Dewie uses it. Everyone uses gifs. You can express your emotions with a click of a button! And the reason I stated “vote for me, if not, whatever, move on.” is because I knew I had no chance of winning because you guys didn't want me since the beginning.

[briqsquad]

Aug 28, 2014 20:51:39 GMT -5 Azri said:

did you just bring vova to get an easy winning or do you have other reason to beat him ? duhhh

If it wasnt for me, vova wouldnt be here IMO. The way I played this game could piss some people off and vova already had people against him. If I brought you, the jury could have voted for you because you had no enemies while I gained a few.

[violet vova]

And Tom to answer your question

1) The reason I didn't tell the ''mafia'' was because I didn't trust no one except for James and Briq. And I don't play that fake sh*t Tom. You want me gone you want me gone, it's simple. Why should I do all of that and expose a good friend of mine that gave me a idol to an alliance that wanted me gone. And to be honest, what the f*ck was the ''mafia''?

2) And three things that I have probably done besides win challenges and idols is taking you guys out. Taking strong competitors out one by one. And this be taken as a compliment, you see I give credit where credit is due. You guys were strong competitors. But apparently I am Briq's b*tch. Which I don't understand why, because we did our gameplan together.

[violet vova]

And listen guys, I know it's a no brainer. But can you guys seriously stop with this ''Oh Vova you did nothing Briq did everything for you'' and ''You shouldn't be here'' nonsense.

Briq saved my a**, and I can't thank him enough. But you guys don't see that I did my sh*t to stay in the game. I was dealt with little things but I still did my sh*t. And guys, for the record I probably could've won more challenges it's just I would take these challenges in the bathroom a lot. You can ask Nate and Kenny about this.

[Deleted]

The "Mafia" is short for The Tongan Mafia which is the name we gave our 5 person alliance. I figured since we were such a dominating force for both the game and story line we needed a name.

[tsky429]

Aug 28, 2014 21:22:04 GMT -5 violet vova said:

And now Tom.

Tom honestly stop being disrespectful. Those things you said were unnecessary. And again, I keep saying this I literally had nothing to do with Nate bringing me back. It was his decision. I was pleased and excited to be back and get a second chance because the first time was a blow and I couldn't do anything really. And stop saying I played a bad game bro. Honestly there is a reason why I am here. And not because I am ''Briq's b*tch''. Why do people all of a sudden assume that? I did my thing and he did his thing. And the reason I wasn't being social is because none of you guys like me. I am not stupid. And bro, I was probably tired when I wrote ''ye sure idc''. It obviously meant I did. And in the beginning I thought I was set with James and Briq. And stop saying it's unfair for us. Like I get it. What do you want me to do? Quit? I earned my share. You would've been even more pissed of if you knew you were eliminated and there was inactives still in the game.

And why are you saying you have to be good to people if you can't talk like a proper person without being so rude? You're acting like I am the villian. And yes you should be mad that the reason you were voted out was because of me. But shouldn't I be mad that you guys kept voting for me and you guys voted me out the first time?

And I am not arrogant bro. Just because I say SMDRQ doesn't mean sh*t. And gifs are funny. Nate uses it, Dewie uses it. Everyone uses gifs. You can express your emotions with a click of a button! And the reason I stated “vote for me, if not, whatever, move on.” is because I knew I had no chance of winning because you guys didn't want me since the beginning.

so have you given up any chance of winning this game? I am not being disrespectful you seemed to wonder why people did not respect and I told you it's because you were voted out already and got a second chance. I said I don't blame you for taking the opportunity to come back, look at what I said......And okay Idc why you said "ye sure idc" but just get that that's why I broke my alliance with you, I didn't know you were tired, all I got was that response, which by all accounts, is very far from someone gung ho on making an alliance with you. And no I wouldn't have been as mad as inactives outlasted me than you.

You have to be good to people during the game. I was good to everyone in this game until I got voted out. I played a very good game, my biggest mistake was coming off as too big of a threat. I have not been rude to anyone but you. And no you shouldn't be mad. I am  not mad that you and briq voted for me, i am mad that you had the opportunity to vote. 

You have been very arrogant throughout this game, ask anyone, and gifs are funny yes, i used them, but sometimes you need to be serious and respect the game and you did not. And as I said, there was a chance I would've voted for you because I was so mad Briq took you but now I am not. 

I have no problem with you personally, honestly, I am sure you are a cool guy in real life, all I was saying is I'm mad you got a second chance and I don't think that you played a good game and was explaining to you why we all think that.

[violet vova]

I understand that this all started with me coming back, but what are you gonna do about it? You sometimes need to have a plan b or a plan c. And I personally thing I played a good game. I became a good social player towards the end because all of my targets were getting eliminated. And I knew Briq would take me to the final because he knew I had a lot of targets in my back and it was guarantee him a win.

But in your eyes you guys believe I played a bad game because I wasn't much of a social player, I was more of a ''Do the challenge, and get the job done'' type of guy. And I didn't want to try and beg for an alliance. Like I am not that type of guy. I know I played the game politically terrible. But asides from that I did pretty much good.

And I still have hope for me winning, but come on let's be real here. All I wanted to do was get to the final. That was my goal since I came back. I knew I had a small chance of winning the game. But I did have a wild journey to get here.

[tsky429]

Aug 28, 2014 21:39:17 GMT -5 violet vova said:

I understand that this all started with me coming back, but what are you gonna do about it? You sometimes need to have a plan b or a plan c. And I personally thing I played a good game. I became a good social player towards the end because all of my targets were getting eliminated. And I knew Briq would take me to the final because he knew I had a lot of targets in my back and it was guarantee him a win.

But in your eyes you guys believe I played a bad game because I wasn't much of a social player, I was more of a ''Do the challenge, and get the job done'' type of guy. And I didn't want to try and beg for an alliance. Like I am not that type of guy. I know I played the game politically terrible. But asides from that I did pretty much good.

And I still have hope for me winning, but come on let's be real here. All I wanted to do was get to the final. That was my goal since I came back. I knew I had a small chance of winning the game. But I did have a wild journey to get here.

Ok well we will just agree to disagree on how good of a game you played... neither of us are budging, I'm just telling you why I thought you played a bad game. And yes you had a very wild journey, but I think that had you played your cards better you'd have a chance to win. You saw Cloudy say "vote switched" from briq to you during FTC. It's just the way you carried yourself. Don't think that you have no chance to win because everyone had a personal vendetta against you, that was true for me, but like you saw with Cloudy some people just didn't like the way you have acted and didn't play a good game

But whatever, good luck

[violet vova]

Aug 28, 2014 21:44:55 GMT -5 tsky429 said:

Aug 28, 2014 21:39:17 GMT -5 violet vova said:

I understand that this all started with me coming back, but what are you gonna do about it? You sometimes need to have a plan b or a plan c. And I personally thing I played a good game. I became a good social player towards the end because all of my targets were getting eliminated. And I knew Briq would take me to the final because he knew I had a lot of targets in my back and it was guarantee him a win.

But in your eyes you guys believe I played a bad game because I wasn't much of a social player, I was more of a ''Do the challenge, and get the job done'' type of guy. And I didn't want to try and beg for an alliance. Like I am not that type of guy. I know I played the game politically terrible. But asides from that I did pretty much good.

And I still have hope for me winning, but come on let's be real here. All I wanted to do was get to the final. That was my goal since I came back. I knew I had a small chance of winning the game. But I did have a wild journey to get here.

Ok well we will just agree to disagree on how good of a game you played... neither of us are budging, I'm just telling you why I thought you played a bad game. And yes you had a very wild journey, but I think that had you played your cards better you'd have a chance to win. You saw Cloudy say "vote switched" from briq to you during FTC. It's just the way you carried yourself. Don't think that you have no chance to win because everyone had a personal vendetta against you, that was true for me, but like you saw with Cloudy some people just didn't like the way you have acted and didn't play a good game

But whatever, good luck

Can I ask you a question? In what way did I play a bad game? I mean was it my social game? Because that was my weakest point and I'll agree with you there. When I say a I played a good game is by challenge wise and idol wise.

And Tom, Cloudy called me a goat after he was eliminated. So I kinda had a feeling he was more towards Briq lol

[tsky429]

Aug 28, 2014 21:48:52 GMT -5 violet vova said:

Aug 28, 2014 21:44:55 GMT -5 tsky429 said:

Ok well we will just agree to disagree on how good of a game you played... neither of us are budging, I'm just telling you why I thought you played a bad game. And yes you had a very wild journey, but I think that had you played your cards better you'd have a chance to win. You saw Cloudy say "vote switched" from briq to you during FTC. It's just the way you carried yourself. Don't think that you have no chance to win because everyone had a personal vendetta against you, that was true for me, but like you saw with Cloudy some people just didn't like the way you have acted and didn't play a good game

But whatever, good luck

Can I ask you a question? In what way did I play a bad game? I mean was it my social game? Because that was my weakest point and I'll agree with you there. When I say a I played a good game is by challenge wise and idol wise.

And Tom, Cloudy called me a goat after he was eliminated. So I kinda had a feeling he was more towards Briq lol

Yeah you played well as far as HII and in challenges, but like I said there's more to Survivor than that. Socially, like you said you were not good, I think that yes people were against you for coming back but you could've came back and said like "look I know you guys don't like that I'm back, but I couldn't refuse the invite" (you did that kind of, but kind of in an obnoxious way) and then connected with people, you only really connected with Briq. And strategy for me entails a lot, part of strategy is to be strategic enough to know you have to have a good social game. And it seems like yes maybe Briq did not just tell you what to do and you blindly followed, but Briq was making the decisions and you were just following

[briqsquad]

Tom what did you think of my response?

[tsky429]

Aug 28, 2014 22:00:39 GMT -5 briqsquad said:

Tom what did you think of my response?

I had no real comments back, was satisfied with what you said. I understand why you took Vova because you thought you'd beat him easily but I stand by that you should have taken Azri because you would've beaten him and you know how I feel abt Vova being here, but whatever, it would have been a bigger issue for me if I did not come here and see how well you really played