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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 20:47:31 GMT -5
I mean ok, I'll give you the 2048. 1 win (that I got you or that was an auto win) and 2 2nd place finishes. Quite the resume you have there. I never stated that I was amazing at challenges. But I was about the same level on challenges as you and Tom (take into account that I wanted to vote in every premerge tribal council) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 20:50:00 GMT -5
Say what you want, the numbers prove otherwise bud.
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 20:56:53 GMT -5
Say what you want, the numbers prove otherwise bud. I said that I did want to go to each premerge tribal council. That means that my scores weren't good because I did not want them to be. Gosh, its like explaining to a five year old. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 20:58:52 GMT -5
Statistically you weren't as good as Tom and I premerge, and weren't as good as Bryan post. You can do all the hpyotheticals you want. The numbers say you weren't as good.
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 21:10:29 GMT -5
Statistically you weren't as good as Tom and I premerge, and weren't as good as Bryan post. You can do all the hpyotheticals you want. The numbers say you weren't as good. It's not a hypothetical. It's fact. Bryan is better than me at challenges hence is victories post merge. You and Briq are not. Congrats on beating someone who was attempting to lose, must have been real tricky |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 21:13:10 GMT -5
Statistically you weren't as good as Tom and I premerge, and weren't as good as Bryan post. You can do all the hpyotheticals you want. The numbers say you weren't as good. It's not a hypothetical. It's fact. Bryan is better than me at challenges hence is victories post merge. You and Briq are not. Congrats on beating someone who was attempting to lose, must have been real tricky You have no proof... |
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 21:16:56 GMT -5
It's not a hypothetical. It's fact. Bryan is better than me at challenges hence is victories post merge. You and Briq are not. Congrats on beating someone who was attempting to lose, must have been real tricky You have no proof... Why would I lie? Not like you seem to be doing every time you speak, I am not trying to put myself on a pedastal as being the best player in the game. Everything that I've said has been brutally honest. There is no point lying at ponderosa. I'm not trying to please anyone like you seem to be doing |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 21:22:18 GMT -5
But like, I'm using actual data and evidence from the game.. You're just saying "I am good because I say so." Half of my post merge stuff was done around starting a new job working 12 hour days on top of getting ready for my fall semester at school, but I'm not saying I could have done better. I did as good as I did and that's that, no theoreticals.
I'm not lying about anything rofl, everything I said was true imo. Obviously we have different opinions, I'm sorry yours are wrong.. Plus I don't have to place myself on a pedestal because I played one of the better all around games. Good players lose sometimes and floaters win sometimes, it's how Survivor works. Who would I be needing to please? Tom already thinks I'm better than you and Bryan just got here.
I have no problem with you as a person, you just tried to talk big about your "great game" and I had to put you in your place.
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 21:32:07 GMT -5
But like, I'm using actual data and evidence from the game.. You're just saying "I am good because I say so." Half of my post merge stuff was done around starting a new job working 12 hour days on top of getting ready for my fall semester at school, but I'm not saying I could have done better. I did as good as I did and that's that, no theoreticals. I'm not lying about anything rofl, everything I said was true imo. Obviously we have different opinions, I'm sorry yours are wrong.. Plus I don't have to place myself on a pedestal because I played one of the better all around games. Good players lose sometimes and floaters win sometimes, it's how Survivor works. Who would I be needing to please? Tom already thinks I'm better than you and Bryan just got here. I have no problem with you as a person, you just tried to talk big about your "great game" and I had to put you in your place. That statement right there is placing yourself on a pedestal. You are saying that good players lose suggesting that you yourself are a good player. You mention your real life suggesting that you had a disadvantage yet you seemed to do so well. "Tom already thinks I'm better than you" also reconfirms that you are looking for the appraisal of others. I didn't say that i played the most dominant game. I got myself into a position to win based on the people around me. I think we can agree that Major, Azri and Vova would get no votes along anyone of us on the jury. I got myself into that position but my plan didn't fall through. We have different opinions of playing a great game but obviously being in a dominant alliance of six and controlling everyone as based on your word, you did, was not a very good game as you finished in 8th |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 21:37:44 GMT -5
Major is still in the game. That invalidates your "you finished 8th argument".
And we've been through this, I ran the game through post merge but I got sloppy. My pre merge game was the best and my post merge was top 2-3.
You claimed further back that you "orchestrated every tribal because you guys kept winning challenges. I went to every tribal in the game and made the moves nessecary to keep my numbers strong. As I was saying, Bryan is lucky that I aligned with him as I could have very easily flipped." Which is obviously not true man. It's ok dude, every game needs middle of the pack players. Not everyone can be good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 21:40:38 GMT -5
I'm the best of the worst and everyone needs to know..
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 21:58:03 GMT -5
Major is still in the game. That invalidates your "you finished 8th argument". And we've been through this, I ran the game through post merge but I got sloppy. My pre merge game was the best and my post merge was top 2-3. You claimed further back that you "orchestrated every tribal because you guys kept winning challenges. I went to every tribal in the game and made the moves nessecary to keep my numbers strong. As I was saying, Bryan is lucky that I aligned with him as I could have very easily flipped." Which is obviously not true man. It's ok dude, every game needs middle of the pack players. Not everyone can be good. That is true. You needed my vote at the Hayden vote because then Bryan would be gone. How on earth is your post merge top 2/3? What did you actually do post merge apart from being voted out, apart from being voted out that is? |
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 21:58:31 GMT -5
I'm the best of the worst and everyone needs to know.. Pedestal |
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 22:01:57 GMT -5
Major is still in the game. That invalidates your "you finished 8th argument". And we've been through this, I ran the game through post merge but I got sloppy. My pre merge game was the best and my post merge was top 2-3. You claimed further back that you "orchestrated every tribal because you guys kept winning challenges. I went to every tribal in the game and made the moves nessecary to keep my numbers strong. As I was saying, Bryan is lucky that I aligned with him as I could have very easily flipped." Which is obviously not true man. It's ok dude, every game needs middle of the pack players. Not everyone can be good. You finished eight for no good reason though. You were in a dominant alliance that you betrayed too ealy. You finished eighth because you are terrible at this game and you attempted to flip with no numbers. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 22:02:46 GMT -5
It really depends on if Bryan masterminded my vote out I guess...
Post merge is like:
1) Vova
2) Whoever in the Mafia was behind getting me out (I know it wasn't you Cloudy don't even front)
3) Bryan if he's not 2 / me
4) Me if Bryan wasn't 2.
1 and 2 are the only ones to do anything strategic, so the rest are just pure comp based/leftover pre merge strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 22:06:12 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to flip.. I voted KF in order to 1) gain Vova's trust and secure his vote at FTC and 2) Convince the Mafia that you wanted KF gone and were working with Vova. This would make it easier to vote you out after Vova and it would make them leave Major alone who Tom and I needed to win at RO7 when we planned on flipping. My vote for KF had already gone in when Tom was blindsided so I got worried and tried to play too hard with Vova. Plus Major and Azri are dumbasses.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 22:08:52 GMT -5
I will say though out of the 9 left at post merge Cloudy is a solid 6th/7th place.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 22:15:05 GMT -5
Cloudy and I are like Dunbar and Abram on Nate's favorite season of The Challenge, The Island. I'm awesome and Cloudy thought he was part of the big alliance but was actually irrelevant even though he might have looked good on paper. And Bryan is Paula stranded on the beach at the end.
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Post by cloudy on Aug 18, 2014 22:27:05 GMT -5
It really depends on if Bryan masterminded my vote out I guess... Post merge is like: 1) Vova 2) Whoever in the Mafia was behind getting me out (I know it wasn't you Cloudy don't even front) 3) Bryan if he's not 2 / me 4) Me if Bryan wasn't 2. 1 and 2 are the only ones to do anything strategic, so the rest are just pure comp based/leftover pre merge strategy. Why is it that I couldn't have masterminded your vote out? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 22:29:59 GMT -5
It really depends on if Bryan masterminded my vote out I guess... Post merge is like: 1) Vova 2) Whoever in the Mafia was behind getting me out (I know it wasn't you Cloudy don't even front) 3) Bryan if he's not 2 / me 4) Me if Bryan wasn't 2. 1 and 2 are the only ones to do anything strategic, so the rest are just pure comp based/leftover pre merge strategy. Why is it that I couldn't have masterminded your vote out? Because you couldn't even remember what time Tribal was. You showed up like 16 hours too early. |
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