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Post by Brooke on Aug 22, 2013 11:50:39 GMT -5
See JC, I knew you'd choose them over me, so why would I stick to keeping Superboy? I had your back over everyone else's, including Holly's, despite what you may think, but you didn't have mine first. So that's why I couldn't trust Superboy.
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Post by kailey on Aug 22, 2013 12:00:25 GMT -5
1. If you could change your gameplay in anyway, what would you change?
I would have talked more! I would have had conversations with people and built up relationships with them. By the time I realized I should be doing this, I felt as if it were too late and if I would have tried it would have just looked like I was taking to people to make sure they didn't vote me out. And that would have seemed fake. I didn't want that. But if I could change something I would have talked to people in the beginning of the game for sure.
2. How big of a part do you think Holly really had in your alliance during the game? Was it really her controlling everyone, or was it more of a team effort?
I know that Holly talked to others more than me, so she had more information about what was going on with everybody else. So in that aspect, a big part. But it was never Holly coming to Daniel and I saying, "Okay we are going to vote this person out this week" never. I guess to some it could seem that way because we were always in agreement. But we had a final five deal and a final three deal, I think that's why we always seemed to agree on who to vote out because we knew where we needed to get to. But each vote we did discuss sometimes we didn't originally agree and had to be convinced by each other. But I never felt that it was Holly running the alliance.
3. Why do you think the jury seemed to view you and Daniel as Holly's followers?
I think I sort of answered that in question 2 and 1. I'm guessing I looked like a follower because I was quiet and always voted the same way Holly did. But I had no reason to vote against Holly. She came to me very very early in the game and offered me a deal. She also saved me from being voted out more than once. So I voted with her. I don't see that as being a follower, I see that as having an alliance with someone and keeping your word to them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 12:04:26 GMT -5
Jimmy
1. What do you think you could have done differently in the game to get you farther in the game? I could of won that final 4 challenge lol no but the whole I was planning on getting Holly out at a certain point. I did not anticipate going into a final 4 situation with 2 other people who were actually okay with losing the game. You can't really plan for a situation like that. Up until that point I was running along smoothly so if I was going to change something it would have to be from way early in the game and it's hard to say if I would have made it further than I did.
2. What's the status on you and Holly? Are you two still at odds? What caused your dislike for her? I don't really need to talk to her, she hasn't tried to talk me either so oh well.
3. Was it your strategy to not do well in challenges throughout the season, or did it just happen that way? Of course it was. If you'll remember early on I was pretty good in challenges. Once we got to merge challenge threats became targets so my mindset was to be so bad in challenges that everybody would want to keep me around assuming they could beat me in final 4, final 3 whatever. Now that's not to say had I tried to win them that I would have because Daniel was great in challenges. I do think I could of won or came close in some of them but you can still lose a challenge and come off as a threat to win which I didn't want to do.
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Post by Magnum on Aug 22, 2013 12:08:47 GMT -5
1. Do you regret not trying harder to get Outlast and Jimmy to flip to your side at the final six?
Yeah, I definitely could have done a better job that week. I was already kinda mentally out of the game at that point though, I sent them both a plea as a last ditch effort before the immunity challenge and then just left it at that. Maybe if I approached them earlier it would've made a difference, but I gave them all the information I had at that point. There wasn't much I could do since their alliance with Holly/Daniel/Kailey was already solid for a long time.
2. Were the alliances at the merge Vets vs. Newbies, or did the Newbies just trick all the vets into thinking they were in alliances with them?
It wasn't Vets vs Newbies at the merge, that was the plan before the merge as far as I know. It might have changed at the swap I think. We were outnumbered from the beginning, so I figured it would be smart to band together. I think JC & Brooke got close to Holly and Stan to Outlast and Jimmy and it just never came together.
3. If the vets all voted together and the vote had been tied at the merge, and a newbie possibly went home that night, how different do you think this game could have went?
Well if we would've stuck together we would've been the Final 5. But that is no guarantee.
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Post by Daniel on Aug 22, 2013 12:09:03 GMT -5
Daniel
1. Do you have any regrets during this game, that maybe could have helped you win in the end?
Nope. I could have been more pro-active in forming alliances and making deals, but I didn't feel comfortable doing so and in the end I did end up in the perfect alliance that had my back all game long so it all worked out.
2. Why do you think winning challenges seemed so overlooked in the end? I mean, you won a majority of them but that seemed to have little effect on voting.
It's only a small part of the game though, like there are 10 people, 1 immunity, 9 people vulnerable to be voted out. Strategy is at least as important, and while I think I was pretty strategic throughout, Holly formed all these alliances and I think that was the key to her success. All the deals and alliances and picking the right people for them, that's something that I did not do and what made Holly very deserving of the win.
3. How did you feel about working with the guys in this game? Why did you seem to feel like an outcast with the guys?
Well I had the feeling they perceived me as expendable and inactive. I never had a conversation with any of them pre-merge except for one PM that I exchanged with Outlast. I was sure they must have been talking game though and that's why I felt left out. Not sure if that was even the case. Later on I had no problem at all working with Jimmy and Outlast though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 12:13:42 GMT -5
1. What do you think of JC's bitterness while in Ponderosa?
I think it was childish, but understandable in a way.
2. Who did you think was on your side when you were blindsided? Why do you think they turned on you?
I thought I had pretty much everyone but kailey and Daniel on my side. They turned on me probably because I was seen as a threat and that I never included hollys inner circle into my own.
3. Do you have any regrets as far as your gameplay for this season?
My biggest regret, is talking too much in the PM's. Had I stayed quiet and not been ecstatic about my safety I honestly think I could've done damage this season.
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Post by Daniel on Aug 22, 2013 12:17:47 GMT -5
What's the deal with vets/newbies on this site btw since the board exists since like May of this year? I guess there was another site before that? Was this the first game for everyone who was called a newbie?
I didn't really like that alliances were based on that to be honest, instead of on in-game relationships and original tribes (or deals that were made after the swap). But yeah if anyone can explain lol that would help since I was clueless about this whole newbies/vets division.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 12:19:16 GMT -5
Wow JC, how are you gonna b*tch and moan about me not tellin you stuff and me not "Havin your back" when the two people you had their backs the most were superboy and magnum?
Why do you always play the f*cking victim but never admit you do the same thing as others?
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Post by hollylockets on Aug 22, 2013 12:20:55 GMT -5
Wow JC, how are you gonna b*tch and moan about me not tellin you stuff and me not "Havin your back" when the two people you had their backs the most were superboy and magnum? Why do you always play the f*cking victim but never admit you do the same thing as others? *fans self* Steppin back on this one. |
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Post by hollylockets on Aug 22, 2013 12:22:16 GMT -5
What's the deal with vets/newbies on this site btw since the board exists since like May of this year? I guess there was another site before that? Was this the first game for everyone who was called a newbie? I didn't really like that alliances were based on that to be honest, instead of on in-game relationships and original tribes (or deals that were made after the swap). But yeah if anyone can explain lol that would help since I was clueless about this whole newbies/vets division. Well Jimmy and I came up with the idea after the swap initially, because we figured the vets were gonna be suicide to go up against in the finals for any of the newbies, so we all kind of banded together. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 12:24:45 GMT -5
And magnum, it's amazing how quick you swapped on our alliance.
I was gone to pack my bags and went on a 6 hour flight. You literally switched alliances in a matter of 7.5 hours. Had you stayed with voting Brooke I could've Atleast done a tie breaker challenge from the votes.
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Post by kailey on Aug 22, 2013 12:27:32 GMT -5
I did not anticipate going into a final 4 situation with 2 other people who were actually okay with losing the game. You can't really plan for a situation like that. It's not that I was okay with losing. I knew that if I could win the final immunity challenge I would bring Holly. And I was 96% sure if she were to win she would bring me. Yeah Daniel was still there, and he is amazing at challenges. But that doesn't mean that I couldn't go and try to do what I had intended to do. If I had voted with you and voted Daniel off there are two things that could have happened. Holly could have won the final immunity and voted me off because I completely went against our alliance. (well i guess there are three things that could have happened but I'm only going to talk about 2). You could have won the final immunity, brought me to the finals, and I still wouldn't have won. You were on the jury's good side for being honest with people and letting them know that they were leaving. Either way I still wouldn't have won. So like I told you, it was a moral thing for me. I gave Holly my word, so I was going to stick with it. |
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Post by Nate on Aug 22, 2013 12:36:20 GMT -5
Daniel, yes, there was a site before this one and as much as I hate it too, there's always that divide in these games. I agree with you though. I wish it was more based on in-game relationships.
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Post by Daniel on Aug 22, 2013 12:36:45 GMT -5
What's the deal with vets/newbies on this site btw since the board exists since like May of this year? I guess there was another site before that? Was this the first game for everyone who was called a newbie? I didn't really like that alliances were based on that to be honest, instead of on in-game relationships and original tribes (or deals that were made after the swap). But yeah if anyone can explain lol that would help since I was clueless about this whole newbies/vets division. Well Jimmy and I came up with the idea after the swap initially, because we figured the vets were gonna be suicide to go up against in the finals for any of the newbies, so we all kind of banded together. Yeah I get that, and from what's been said here, a lot of vets were working together so it was a good move. I just wonder like who were all new here and was this the first game for every newbie? |
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Post by Magnum on Aug 22, 2013 12:36:47 GMT -5
And magnum, it's amazing how quick you swapped on our alliance. I was gone to pack my bags and went on a 6 hour flight. You literally switched alliances in a matter of 7.5 hours. Had you stayed with voting Brooke I could've Atleast done a tie breaker challenge from the votes. Had I voted out Brooke I was certain I would've been next though. After JC left, Brooke was the first person to approach me and we formed an alliance with Holly/Daniel/Kailey. I wasn't sure I could trust them, but it at least gave me a chance to make it into the final 5 if they were being honest. My options were to stick with you and be outnumbered for sure, or join that alliance and hope they're being honest. I admit, in retrospect it made no real difference, but at the time I thought it would give me a chance. |
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Post by hollylockets on Aug 22, 2013 12:38:50 GMT -5
Well Jimmy and I came up with the idea after the swap initially, because we figured the vets were gonna be suicide to go up against in the finals for any of the newbies, so we all kind of banded together. Yeah I get that, and from what's been said here, a lot of vets were working together so it was a good move. I just wonder like who were all new here and was this the first game for every newbie? Yeah I think Jimmy and Outlast have played games before based on things they've said, but this is my very first one, I had just heard they even existed a few weeks prior and said I HAVE TO. As far as I know, The 5 of us, and all the premerge voteouts barring Danielle were newbies. |
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Post by Nate on Aug 22, 2013 12:41:04 GMT -5
Morgan wasn't a newbie either.
This season would have easily taken title of hardest season if there weren't so many damn inactives...
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Post by hollylockets on Aug 22, 2013 12:44:38 GMT -5
Morgan wasn't a newbie either. This season would have easily taken title of hardest season if there weren't so many damn inactives... The game started at the swap, really. That's when everything we thought went down the toilet and all the crazy lying backstabbing gameplay started. Well I can't speak for Tapurai, since I was never a member, but that's how it was on Sambora. How did JC put it? Oh yes, 'That sh*t Show Sambora." |
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Post by Daniel on Aug 22, 2013 12:47:34 GMT -5
Idk if anything happened on Tapurai honestly xD I was just hoping we wouldn't lose two challenges in a row.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 13:32:26 GMT -5
Yeah honestly Daniel you would've been voted off had tapurai lost a challenge.
But the guys side was extremely smooth when it came to voting and agreements.
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