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Post by briqsquad on Feb 17, 2017 23:37:44 GMT -5
It was regarding to nates scenario. Nah im just saying.. even if she was ab actual goat like baaah people would say she deserves to win just cause she makes ftc true and she'd probably get some votes to
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 1:08:54 GMT -5
Sandra has always been a goat ![](http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/3w2MWDX.png)
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Post by Jhonmarco on Feb 18, 2017 1:11:19 GMT -5
Yeah I think Aubry has said she'd vote for her on making it to the end alone lol
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Post by Lan on Feb 19, 2017 7:53:41 GMT -5
Can you blame ppl for tryna win tho 🤔 Not at all. I don't have an issue with people trying to get rid of the threats. I think for some people it's smart to keep a few of them around for a little bit to keep the target off of them, but for people who are last on everyone's hit list it makes total sense to start at the top. My issue is with the casting this season. If you're going to bring back Sandra, Cirie and that caliber of player, fill the season with that caliber of player. If you want to bring back Hali/Sierra hoping for a second Parvati/Wentworth situation, fill the season with that caliber of player. It almost feels like this season is meant to destroy the reputation of a few of these survivor legends by setting them up for an early boot. Regarding Sandra, I want her to at least make it past the first three boots so her record is better than Russell's in every season she's played in, although preferably I hope she can magically make jury and roast whoever's at the FTC.
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Post by Nate on Feb 19, 2017 10:19:59 GMT -5
This season seems to be the equivalent to like Rivals II (but with a better cast) where they probably had a really good format and then didn't get the exact cast they wanted so they gave up and just did a bullsh*t format with who they had.
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Post by James on Feb 19, 2017 10:21:54 GMT -5
Can you blame ppl for tryna win tho 🤔 Not at all. I don't have an issue with people trying to get rid of the threats. I think for some people it's smart to keep a few of them around for a little bit to keep the target off of them, but for people who are last on everyone's hit list it makes total sense to start at the top. My issue is with the casting this season. If you're going to bring back Sandra, Cirie and that caliber of player, fill the season with that caliber of player. If you want to bring back Hali/Sierra hoping for a second Parvati/Wentworth situation, fill the season with that caliber of player. It almost feels like this season is meant to destroy the reputation of a few of these survivor legends by setting them up for an early boot. Regarding Sandra, I want her to at least make it past the first three boots so her record is better than Russell's in every season she's played in, although preferably I hope she can magically make jury and roast whoever's at the FTC. I mean tbh imo if theyre as good as we think they are they'll be able to make lemonade outta lemons. Theres def bigger threats than sandra and cerie out there lol.
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Post by Jgrubl on Feb 19, 2017 16:33:16 GMT -5
I agree with James. I don't think people are gonna go after those two right away because there's people who consider themselves bigger threats. You have Ozzy Malcolm tony all up there on people radars. For all we know they could all gang up and decide to target one another near the end.
I just think Ian you are already making an excuse if they go early. Let's look at Bananas in challenges. He turns sh*t into gold and he makes it far with the bare minimum sometimes. There's no reason that they can't work their social games to get farther in the game. If they can't then I'm sorry they aren't as good as we thought. You have to adapt your game
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Post by Jhonmarco on Feb 19, 2017 16:58:27 GMT -5
I agree with James. I don't think people are gonna go after those two right away because there's people who consider themselves bigger threats. You have Ozzy Malcolm tony all up there on people radars. For all we know they could all gang up and decide to target one another near the end. I just think Ian you are already making an excuse if they go early. Let's look at Bananas in challenges. He turns sh*t into gold and he makes it far with the bare minimum sometimes. There's no reason that they can't work their social games to get farther in the game. If they can't then I'm sorry they aren't as good as we thought. You have to adapt your game I mean Ozzy and Malcolm haven't won and aren't known as strategic threats or anything. Also you can't compare Challenge to voting format games like Survivor or Big Brother with their not even being any elimination rounds or anything. There is definitely times where people are just f*cked and are gonna have a tough time from the start regardless of what they do based on reputation alone and agendas of players. I think Sandra and Tony are these two people on this season btw.
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Post by Jgrubl on Feb 19, 2017 17:29:39 GMT -5
I agree with James. I don't think people are gonna go after those two right away because there's people who consider themselves bigger threats. You have Ozzy Malcolm tony all up there on people radars. For all we know they could all gang up and decide to target one another near the end. I just think Ian you are already making an excuse if they go early. Let's look at Bananas in challenges. He turns sh*t into gold and he makes it far with the bare minimum sometimes. There's no reason that they can't work their social games to get farther in the game. If they can't then I'm sorry they aren't as good as we thought. You have to adapt your game I mean Ozzy and Malcolm haven't won and aren't known as strategic threats or anything. Also you can't compare Challenge to voting format games like Survivor or Big Brother with their not even being any elimination rounds or anything. There is definitely times where people are just f*cked and are gonna have a tough time from the start regardless of what they do based on reputation alone and agendas of players. I think Sandra and Tony are these two people on this season btw. Yeah but let's be honest any season with any players with Sandra she's a target. If you have all high caliber players they would most def want her out first. She's just not going to get an easy trip to final 3 so not sure why everyone expects her too or maybe she just shouldn't have done another season.
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Post by Nate on Feb 19, 2017 17:29:56 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think anyone is worried about Ozzy or Malcolm first and foremost lmao
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Post by Jhonmarco on Feb 19, 2017 17:38:09 GMT -5
I mean Ozzy and Malcolm haven't won and aren't known as strategic threats or anything. Also you can't compare Challenge to voting format games like Survivor or Big Brother with their not even being any elimination rounds or anything. There is definitely times where people are just f*cked and are gonna have a tough time from the start regardless of what they do based on reputation alone and agendas of players. I think Sandra and Tony are these two people on this season btw. Yeah but let's be honest any season with any players with Sandra she's a target. If you have all high caliber players they would most def want her out first. She's just not going to get an easy trip to final 3 so not sure why everyone expects her too or maybe she just shouldn't have done another season. I don't expect her to and yeah it sucks, but fans and sandra herself are aware of this was almost always gonna be the case when she came back unless she returned fot all winners and we had a few more people who won twice since.
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Post by Nate on Feb 19, 2017 18:26:56 GMT -5
I just think Sandra will be successful again because of how loved she is. Her personality really carries her far into the game based on the show and what people say about her that have played alongside her. At the end of the day they're all people and as much as they like to pretend they don't care about friendships, they do and establishing those relationships is Sandra's strong suit. Even people against her can't help but absolutely adore her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 18:49:29 GMT -5
Challenge threats are always bigger threats than strategic players lolz
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Post by Lan on Feb 19, 2017 18:51:26 GMT -5
Survivor is all about perception and with returning player seasons the perception coming in has a huge effect on the game. On All Stars, the winners were straight up f*cked before they even got on the beach. I don't think that reflects badly on their social game. Sure, you can try to manipulate and play the game, but even the top players can't control minds. If everyone's on the same page with regards to who should go, that person's going.
I think Cirie and Sandra are at the top in terms of threats, I think the only one with a bigger target is Tony. Ozzy and Malcolm are mostly seen as challenge threats only (which is BS, Malcolm's average at challenges and a strong social player, it's mostly appearance), so most people don't want them gone right away. I think Ciera might have a bigger target than Cirie on the basis of being untrustworthy, not because she's a threat. She's basically Cambodia Kass.
I'm not making excuses for Sandra and Cirie. If they alienate themselves from their tribe or f*ck up challenges and get booted, that shows flaws in their game. If they just end up on a tribe where people have already decided yeah bye Sandra, she's going home and there's nothing she'd have done wrong besides saying yes to playing again. I'm not saying cast 20 people at least as threatening as Sandra, but I don't see the point in bringing her back if she's not actually going to be able to play at all.
So I would have preferred if CBS had either decided to have a season with all (or at least mostly) big names which they've been able to pull off in the past, or do like a redemption for average to bad players production wants to see again, both are fine. I think this is a weird mix which will just lead to a slaughter of the big names, and I don't see a point in that tbh.
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Post by briqsquad on Feb 19, 2017 18:52:23 GMT -5
Malcom is in such a good spot, he has a real chance of getting to the end. Plus he finds idols like nothing. Ozzy won't be targeted until merge. Sandra cirie and tony are the three biggest targets out there, if any of them make merge that an accomplishment of itself. Have there been spoilers yet? Because if there are, please refrain from posting your "opinion"
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Post by Lan on Feb 19, 2017 18:56:11 GMT -5
Challenge threats are always bigger threats than strategic players lolz This is true. Everyone was worried about Boston Rob going into All Stars, Colby and James in H vs V and Joe in Cambodia over Hatch, Parvati, Stephen & Kass.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 19:10:36 GMT -5
Challenge threats are always bigger threats than strategic players lolz This is true. Everyone was worried about Boston Rob going into All Stars, Colby and James in H vs V and Joe in Cambodia over Hatch, Parvati, Stephen & Kass. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Â Meant social hehe
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Post by Jhonmarco on Feb 19, 2017 20:54:29 GMT -5
Malcom is in such a good spot, he has a real chance of getting to the end. Plus he finds idols like nothing. Ozzy won't be targeted until merge. Sandra cirie and tony are the three biggest targets out there, if any of them make merge that an accomplishment of itself. Have there been spoilers yet? Because if there are, please refrain from posting your "opinion" Spoilers are kind of all over the place right now. There is kind of a consensus for final 3 at least and the first few boots are narrowed down to like 5 people.
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Post by briqsquad on Feb 19, 2017 21:01:38 GMT -5
Malcom is in such a good spot, he has a real chance of getting to the end. Plus he finds idols like nothing. Ozzy won't be targeted until merge. Sandra cirie and tony are the three biggest targets out there, if any of them make merge that an accomplishment of itself. Have there been spoilers yet? Because if there are, please refrain from posting your "opinion" Spoilers are kind of all over the place right now. There is kind of a consensus for final 3 at least and the first few boots are narrowed down to like 5 people. avoiding sucks and reddit until after the show then.
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Post by Brooke on Feb 19, 2017 21:17:42 GMT -5
Spoilers are kind of all over the place right now. There is kind of a consensus for final 3 at least and the first few boots are narrowed down to like 5 people. avoiding sucks and reddit until after the show then. I'm going to be avoiding spoilers this season as well. I don't want to know because I think this season is going to be a good one.
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