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Post by Dewie890 on Jun 4, 2015 19:30:38 GMT -5
Welcome everyone to the finale of Big Brother: Back to the Basics!
Now Briqsquad and Magnum, please use this time to create your opening statement! Please PM them to me and Kenny. We will post them here once we have both to ensure that whoever goes second does not use their opening statement to refute the others statements. Once we post the statements, it will be the jurors chance to address you.
The rules for the jurors:
- You MUST wait to make your post until after the opening statements are posted.
- You can only make ONE POST on this thread. NO EDITS on your post.
- You can NOT respond to something one of the final 2 say and start an argument.
- Please address both contestants, you may ask them each a question or make statements.
Rules for the final 2:
- You can only respond to a direct question to you or statement towards you.
- You CANNOT use your response to refute something stated by the other person.
After the jurors have been addressed, you will each PM me and Kenny your closing statements.
Once the closing statements are posted, the jurors can cast their votes for the winner of the season!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:54:52 GMT -5
Magnum
What's up jury. Not sure how to begin, but I'll just get right into it I guess. I'll try to keep this concise. I didn't come into this game with a set strategy or alliance, my vague game plan was to play more aggressively than I have in previous forum games and do whatever it took to get to the end. Right off the bat I got into a big/majority alliance (that being Myself, Jhon, Briq, Cole, Vova, YM, and Alad, which I'm sure everyone knows by now), which made it quite easy to coast along throughout at least the first few weeks. I didn't plan on playing that way, therefore I made the decision to go for the 2nd HOH, while pretty much everyone else in my alliance didn't seem to want it. I figured this would give me leverage to make deals and talk to people outside of my alliance. I feel like that was pretty important for me because it seemed like at least in the early part of the game that everyone assumed all the "vets" were sticking together, and not many people had approached me to that point.
Although I did throw some challenges here and there when it made no sense to win, for the most part I tried in every competition (especially HOH's). It's pretty hard to build a winning resume and make strong/aggressive moves in the game without winning anything. In turn, winning competitions and putting people up on the block can make you a big target, and I did end up being nominated more than I would've liked. But I feel like I did a pretty good job of weathering the storm and not completely burning any bridges, which helped me get out of a few tough situations throughout the game. There were two POV competitions I lost that I thought for sure I needed to win to save my game (one to Alex, and one to Phil), and in those cases I was able to strike deals to ensure my safety.
If I were to point to one move I made in the game that was the turning point which led to me getting to this point, it would be the week we got rid of Cole. I was just on the block the previous week and the only person I didn't have a deal/alliance with at that point was Phil, so right off the bat he was my initial target. Then immediately upon winning HOH, I'm informed by Jhon that Phil might have had a DPOV (we all kinda speculated that he had something). At that point I had to completely flip my game plan because there was no way I was gonna take the chance of putting Phil up, who was arguably the strongest player in the game, only for him to whip out a DPOV and proceed to come after me for the rest of the game. I was able to strike a deal with Phil and get rid of Cole, which made the last few weeks of the game a lot easier on me considering Phil and I were winning just about everything at that point. By the Final 3/4, I had a Final 2 deal with everyone, but I think pretty much everyone did at that point. It was gonna come down to competitions and I was able to win them when I really needed to.
Again, everything I did in the game was to advance myself. Did I feel bad about going back on certain deals? Absof*ckinglutely. You'll see that in my DR's. But at the end of the day I had to stick to what I said I was gonna do from the start, which was to play for myself and playing to win. If anyone is upset with me, I get it. But hopefully you at least understand why I did what I did in this game. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:56:14 GMT -5
Briqsquad
Hey everyone this was an awesome season and I am glad to share it with you all. I first want to thank Dewie and Kenny for putting me on this season and for them being great hosts and probably the best 1-2 punch in this sites history of hosting (previously held by me and stan on UC summer challenge).
Alright now to the game. I believe I played the best big brother game this season. I strategically and socially played this game as well as you can. Physically, I know I didn’t do much but I’m going to tell you why that comps are irrelevant if you’re really strong socially and strategically. Socially, I played so well that I was in an alliance with every single person in the game. Literally, every single person that was in the house, I was aligned with them or in Daquans case some small talk. This is very risky and would most likely blow up in my face that I was playing everyone but that didn’t happen, it almost did, but I backed my way out of it. After every eviction, I had to vote out my ally and if that ally had allies I was aligned with, I covered it up so it wouldn’t come back bite me in the a**. Here’s one of many reasons why an HOH would be unnecessary, if I won HOH I’d be putting up an ally, so I threw about 90% of the comps. At all times, I knew what everyone was thinking and I can plan my moves a couple of steps ahead of everyone else. I was also only put on the block once, technically twice, but that was because I told magnum to put me up with Phil for strategic reasons.
Strategically, I played just as well. I convinced or had a say in everyone’s nominations and evictions. Coming into this game, I realized that I would have a big target on my back by being a recent winner of Survivor and I had my f2 partner with me vova. I knew people were going to use that against me eventually to split me up and that’s why I had a new partner this game that no one knew about and that was Jhon. Jhon and I basically knew everything that was going on in this game. I was close with one side of the house that he was not well connected with and vice versa. This is why the both of us didn’t get nominated until Phil realized that we haven’t been on the block, because we would convince one side of the house to not put us up if we were in danger, which only happened later in the game. This is another reason not to win comps because people won’t find you threatening if you don’t win comps. But the irony behind all of that is one winning HOH is actually not threatening, being a part of majority is actually threatening and that’s where I thrived in the game. Being a part of majority helps you remove people from the game and avoids getting put on the block. Winning HOH only puts 2 people on the block, while not voting, and only playing POV next week. Winning comps like HOH is actually a disadvantage in the game. My biggest advocate to show that winning a comp is irrelevant, was when I convinced Magnum to take me to the end over Phil. He told me he was taking Phil to the final 2 before the Final HOH, and after I lost, I spent 2 hours persuading him that Phil is the wrong choice and that Phil will destroy him. He finally gave in and sided with me. A lot of Magnums big moves are actually influenced or were not even possible because of me but your questions can delve into those scenarios.
There is a reason why I picked Dr. Will, it’s because I wanted to play a game similar to his and I think mine was close. I really look forward to your questions in this game because I’d love to explain the moves I made to help me get where I am. Thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 21:04:13 GMT -5
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Post by Coke on Jun 4, 2015 23:39:01 GMT -5
Hello finalists. Briq and Mag, you both played spectacular games in two very different ways. On one end, Magnum won competitions and was targeted quite a bit, but he was able to deal and maneuver his way out of sticky situations. Briq, never being in danger, relied on his social skills and the ability to get good with both sides of the house to get here. That's literally what you just said. But I'm just being sure I understand what's going on. I'm not a smart fellow.
Briq, this is a game where big moves usually get rewarded. But looking at your resume, you never really had any big moves. I mean yeah you did a lot of behind the scenes work that kept you safe, but you never had that one defining moment that led you here. What would you consider your biggest move in the game and how does it match up against some of Magnum's strategic decisions?
Magnum, awesome game bro. Great balance of physical, strategic, and social games. That being said, that doesn't mean you for sure have my vote. You've said you've broken people's trust in this game and that you felt bad about it. Interesting. I would like for you to briefly (not too brief) explain all the vote offs and your involvement in them, as well as your reasoning, starting from Alex's eviction and working all the way up to Phil's exit.
Well fellas, all I can say is good luck to both of you. You're both Cole approved GOATs.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 5, 2015 0:08:58 GMT -5
Hello finalists. Briq and Mag, you both played spectacular games in two very different ways. On one end, Magnum won competitions and was targeted quite a bit, but he was able to deal and maneuver his way out of sticky situations. Briq, never being in danger, relied on his social skills and the ability to get good with both sides of the house to get here. That's literally what you just said. But I'm just being sure I understand what's going on. I'm not a smart fellow. Briq, this is a game where big moves usually get rewarded. But looking at your resume, you never really had any big moves. I mean yeah you did a lot of behind the scenes work that kept you safe, but you never had that one defining moment that led you here. What would you consider your biggest move in the game and how does it match up against some of Magnum's strategic decisions?
Magnum, awesome game bro. Great balance of physical, strategic, and social games. That being said, that doesn't mean you for sure have my vote. You've said you've broken people's trust in this game and that you felt bad about it. Interesting. I would like for you to briefly (not too brief) explain all the vote offs and your involvement in them, as well as your reasoning, starting from Alex's eviction and working all the way up to Phil's exit. Well fellas, all I can say is good luck to both of you. You're both Cole approved GOATs. I'm glad you asked that cole because I'm dying to explain my moves this game. If I had to chose one move that was defining for me in this game was flipping the house on you and making you the main target when you ratted out the alliance. I knew you were coming after me before you knew I knew. Jhon and james were feeding me info on what you were planning. So when you messaged james outing the SMDRQ alliance, James quickly came to me and showed me what you said. I knew I was in deep trouble because I had to explain myself to james about this alliance I had behind his back. So I messaged everyone in our alliance explaining what you did before I talked to james. I basically told them to deny everything we have this game and that you're lying, if James asked. I then responded to james saying that you're lying and he believed me. In that instant I could have had my game in shambles but instead of it taking me down, I had everyone in the house make you the number one target. SMDRQ alliance even made a PM without you in it as our main target. I even went to you and said I wasnt mad and lets keep working together when initially, I knew whenever I had the chance to take you out I would. So basically, I kept my alliance intact with SMDRQ, kept my alliance with james and phil who believed me over you even though you gave james concrete evidence about me and other alliances. And the most importnant thing was that my main target became everyone elses main target. With Magnums strategy, I'm not sure what he considers his main strategic moves but I know one of his bigger moves was because of me. Remember the week alex won HOH and put up magnum and alad? Alex won POV and Magnum was headed out the door that week. I know I needed magnum here to win comps and try and take down people like alex and phil later in the game, so I told mags to talk alex into taking him off the block. Not only that, I literally told him what to say, I told mags to make up ridiculous deals like letting alex have one nomination if he won HOH, and not ever voting him out basically what dan did to ollie on season 10. The result ended up being that Alex used the veto on magnum to backdoor kaitlyn. You can check our SMDRQ PM if you dont remember. |
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Post by Jhonmarco on Jun 5, 2015 0:43:06 GMT -5
Ok so first, congrats guys! My two closest allies making f2 makes me really happy and if I couldn't make it, glad it was you two! Anyway, let's get down to it.
Briq, you were my #1 ally before this game even started and Mags you were my ally from day 1 in this game until I was evicted. I know a ton about both your games, but I wanna hear why I shouldn't vote for the person sitting next to you, but why I should vote for you. Also, for fun, compare each juror with an actual BB player in terms of how similarly they played and mention why they are similar to said big brother player. I wants to be entertained, good luck guys!
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Post by Magnum on Jun 5, 2015 1:07:04 GMT -5
Hello finalists. Briq and Mag, you both played spectacular games in two very different ways. On one end, Magnum won competitions and was targeted quite a bit, but he was able to deal and maneuver his way out of sticky situations. Briq, never being in danger, relied on his social skills and the ability to get good with both sides of the house to get here. That's literally what you just said. But I'm just being sure I understand what's going on. I'm not a smart fellow. Briq, this is a game where big moves usually get rewarded. But looking at your resume, you never really had any big moves. I mean yeah you did a lot of behind the scenes work that kept you safe, but you never had that one defining moment that led you here. What would you consider your biggest move in the game and how does it match up against some of Magnum's strategic decisions? Magnum, awesome game bro. Great balance of physical, strategic, and social games. That being said, that doesn't mean you for sure have my vote. You've said you've broken people's trust in this game and that you felt bad about it. Interesting. I would like for you to briefly (not too brief) explain all the vote offs and your involvement in them, as well as your reasoning, starting from Alex's eviction and working all the way up to Phil's exit. Well fellas, all I can say is good luck to both of you. You're both Cole approved GOATs. Alex: I believe he was up against Phil this week. This was right after the deal I made with Alex to come off the block, so I ended up voting to keep him. This was one of the HOH's I threw because I knew the alliance would expect me to put him up if I won, which I just agreed not to do. It would've been stupid for me to win it and go back on a deal when I didn't have to. James: This was when you suggested the 4 man alliance between Run JMC (Jhon, Magnum, Cole), and James, and tried to get us to go after Briq/Vova. That whole thing blew up quick because James went to Briq, who came back to the alliance, and pretty much everyone knew about it within hours. I already didn't trust James at this point because someone told him I was trying to backdoor him earlier in the game, so we pretty much never worked together. As far as my involvement in this eviction, all I know is that myself and Jhon were pushing pretty hard for him to go when it seemed like you were leaning towards going after Briq that week. We revealed some things he said to us about you, which might've helped sway your decision there. Alad: I was up against him this week, so I really had nothing to do with his eviction other than I guess campaigning for votes against him. Cole: After I found out about the whole Phil DPOV thing, I knew I was gonna have to screw someone over. Everyone remaining in the game was in my alliance at that point. I remember kinda going back and forth between you and Vova at first, but ultimately decided on you because I was more worried about you in competitions down the line. Plus, Vova just seemed like he'd be a more loyal ally at that point. Jhon: I voted to keep Jhon this week because I trusted him more, and I knew he was taking me to the Final 2. I told Briq flat out that I was voting him out this week. Vova: Didn't put him up, wasn't really intending to get rid of him (I didn't think Briq or Phil would either). I felt like I would have had an easier time beating Vova in the Final HOH than Briq and Phil based on how recent comps have gone. Phil: I really went back and forth on this. As far as who I thought played a more impressive game in the eyes of the jury, it was definitely Phil (no offense Briq). He won the most comps, and almost everyone in our alliance overlooked him and focused on getting rid of Alex/James. On the other hand, I knew Briq was/is cool with Vova, Alad, Cole, and Jhon. Game wise, Phil would be tougher to beat, but I thought based on relationships in the jury, Briq would have a few votes locked up no matter what. I didn't know much about Phil's relationships in the game. After Briq told me about his Final 3 with Vova/Phil, and Phil confirmed it, I decided to just go up against who I thought I had a better argument against, and that's Briq. I probably felt the worst about this, because I told Phil I was keeping him and ended up going back on that. |
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Post by Phil on Jun 5, 2015 1:42:30 GMT -5
Hi guys, you made it to the end. Congrats! This is the F3 I wanted, so I guess I'm pleased, even though I wish I was sitting there instead of you. I had a lot of fun playing with both of you in different capacities. This truly was a very fun game and y'all were a part of my experience so just know that y'all cool! However, we have serious business to get to so put on your serious faces. No smiles.
BRIQ: Here is a warning from me to you: you need to be careful of what you say, because some of the things that you have said so far are either wrong or severely misguided assumptions or misrepresentations of my game, and perhaps others’. To me, this “I had a say in everything” attitude in the Final 2 just shows that you don’t know how you actually impacted people’s decisions. Considering you were not actually a decision maker most of the time, it’s pretty bold to suggest you were when you essentially had to adapt to decisions made by other players who were in power to get you to the end. I’ll say this because I’m not afraid to drop truth bombs, but your amateur is showing. Blanket statements are not your friend and you’ve just proven that you don’t understand my game, which I think is extremely important. Tone it down and only say what you know is true, because you’ve got a bunch of jurors here that will dissect the sh*t out of everything you say, myself included. Your task tonight is to prove to me that you understand my game by explaining some of the things you said in your opening statement that quite frankly are untrue. Please explain to me how you knew what I was thinking at all times and how you planned your moves a couple steps ahead of mine. Further, explain to me how you convinced me or had a say in my nominations and how I voted. Hint: I nominated a lot of people that you didn’t want me to nominate, including yourself, so you’re pretty bold to suggest that you convinced me of doing anything. Be very careful because this is extremely important so if you misrepresent me in this or future answers, I will notice.
MAGNUM: I just wanna say I loved our secret alliance. It was hot and cold, but I honestly respect the sh*t out of you for how you handled yourself in the game when it came to me. I knew people wanted to use me against you, and probably you against me, but midway through the game we started our own thing and just worked together, after a few rounds of trying to make up with each other or recovering from nominations. I think we are very alike sometimes, and that certainly worked to our benefit. Despite targeting you and being targeted by you a few times, I never truly felt like we were against each other. Although I talked to you perhaps the least out of anyone in the F8, I feel like I really got to know your game, and you and I probably had the realest talks out of everyone – substantive game talks full of truth bombs and realness. Your social game was on point and I’m glad I got to be a part of it. I might not have said it in my confessional, but I definitely wish we were playing *together* more than we were. I loved your independent thinking and your willingness to stick to your guns and just do what you wanted to do. You certainly had to make a lot of decisions to guide your path to the end, so this leads me to my question for you. I would like you to explain to me how Briq convinced you or had a say in your nominations, eviction votes, or other important decisions.
That’s it you guys! And yes, I will be your friend after this, thanks for asking.
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 5, 2015 1:45:13 GMT -5
Ok so first, congrats guys! My two closest allies making f2 makes me really happy and if I couldn't make it, glad it was you two! Anyway, let's get down to it. Briq, you were my #1 ally before this game even started and Mags you were my ally from day 1 in this game until I was evicted. I know a ton about both your games, but I wanna hear why I shouldn't vote for the person sitting next to you, but why I should vote for you. Also, for fun, compare each juror with an actual BB player in terms of how similarly they played and mention why they are similar to said big brother player. I wants to be entertained, good luck guys! You shouldnt vote for magnum because you and I both know that there were instances where magnum would have went home if it weren't for our connections in the house. I can think of two big reasons where he should have gotten voted out. 1.) Where Alex won HOH and POV and ended up using it on mags to backdoor kaitlyn was heavily influenced by me. 2.) The week cole put up james and phil. Phil told me about his DPOV when cole won POV and phil said he was going to use it and put up magnum. So I told you to tell cole to use his POV to save phil then you told cole and he put up Alad. That was huge because if phil used the DPOV, magnum was getting voted out over james. You should vote for me because I played more of a pure game. Socially and strategically I outplayed everyone and Magnum only has me in the Physical department. So mathematically, I beat him 2 out of 3. Alex- Hayden voss. Both are good competitors and didnt really get the chance to show their full potential and got screwed in a fast forward week. James- James Rhine. Both are comp beasts and have a reputation for not being trusted and the house always viewed him as a threat. Plays hard. Alad- Chicken George- the goofball of the house that everybody loves and won his only HOH in a fast forward week as well. Cole- Zach Rance- Both were entertainment of the house and self destructed toward the end of their game. Jhon- Dr. will (bb7)- I'm not even trying kissing your a** right now but I cant think of anyone else who won 0 comps and had that good of a social game to where you swayed peoples minds. You both were eliminated unexpectedly as well. Dont think you played a GOAT game like him but similar in stats Vova- Cody- Other then comps, you both had great social games and played UTR most of the season. Phil- Janelle- Beast in comps but just missed Final 2. |
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Post by Magnum on Jun 5, 2015 2:12:08 GMT -5
Ok so first, congrats guys! My two closest allies making f2 makes me really happy and if I couldn't make it, glad it was you two! Anyway, let's get down to it. Briq, you were my #1 ally before this game even started and Mags you were my ally from day 1 in this game until I was evicted. I know a ton about both your games, but I wanna hear why I shouldn't vote for the person sitting next to you, but why I should vote for you. Also, for fun, compare each juror with an actual BB player in terms of how similarly they played and mention why they are similar to said big brother player. I wants to be entertained, good luck guys! Thank you. I feel like I should get your vote because I played aggressively and tried to get things done in the game, but I also didn't rely on competitions to get me here at all. I was on the block three times, and never won a competition to save myself. Every time I got off the block, it was because I had the votes or I got vetoed off. I played the social game, I played the strategic game...I just wanted to win competitions to build my resume and set myself up to get further. I was not content with just coasting by week to week and having nothing to hang my hat on at the end as far as aggressive game play. I don't wanna slam Briq's game, he did a hell of a job to get himself to this point. But at the end of the day he had to be taken to the end of the game by me. Did I save him because he's some brilliant social player and I liked him so much more than Phil? Nope. I brought him here because I feel like I played a better game than him. sh*t...this might be tough. Alex: A more laid back Frank (BB14) maybe? Tough competitor, seemed to be a big target right off the bat. James: First person to come to mind was Rachel (BB12). Really aggressive player, seemed to want to target big players immediately, pretty good competitor too. Alad: Chill, loyal, funny guy. sh*t, a few players could fit that description. I'll go with Casey (BB11) I guess. Cole: I would say Zach (BB16)....but I'd be completely lying considering I only watched like 6 episodes of that season. Although I remember someone comparing him to Zach during the game, might've been you actually. He was another aggressive player that tried to orchestrate a lot of big moves, he also wasn't afraid to stir sh*t up in the Game Thread. BB10 Libra maybe? Jhon: Solid social game and were one of the better strategic players in the game from my vanish point as well. Seems like all you were missing were the competition wins haha. Maybe Britney in her second go around (BB14)? Minus the meltdown in her Final week of course. Vova: Another great social player, and a cool/funny guy. Enzo from BB12 seems like a decent comparison. Phil: Really good all around game, and a pretty straight up/honest one too. BB6 Janelle or BB12 Hayden? Most of those were the first comparisons I could think of btw. Hope no one takes exception to any of them lol. |
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 5, 2015 2:14:20 GMT -5
Hi guys, you made it to the end. Congrats! This is the F3 I wanted, so I guess I'm pleased, even though I wish I was sitting there instead of you. I had a lot of fun playing with both of you in different capacities. This truly was a very fun game and y'all were a part of my experience so just know that y'all cool! However, we have serious business to get to so put on your serious faces. No smiles. BRIQ: Here is a warning from me to you: you need to be careful of what you say, because some of the things that you have said so far are either wrong or severely misguided assumptions or misrepresentations of my game, and perhaps others’. To me, this “I had a say in everything” attitude in the Final 2 just shows that you don’t know how you actually impacted people’s decisions. Considering you were not actually a decision maker most of the time, it’s pretty bold to suggest you were when you essentially had to adapt to decisions made by other players who were in power to get you to the end. I’ll say this because I’m not afraid to drop truth bombs, but your amateur is showing. Blanket statements are not your friend and you’ve just proven that you don’t understand my game, which I think is extremely important. Tone it down and only say what you know is true, because you’ve got a bunch of jurors here that will dissect the sh*t out of everything you say, myself included. Your task tonight is to prove to me that you understand my game by explaining some of the things you said in your opening statement that quite frankly are untrue. Please explain to me how you knew what I was thinking at all times and how you planned your moves a couple steps ahead of mine. Further, explain to me how you convinced me or had a say in my nominations and how I voted. Hint: I nominated a lot of people that you didn’t want me to nominate, including yourself, so you’re pretty bold to suggest that you convinced me of doing anything. Be very careful because this is extremely important so if you misrepresent me in this or future answers, I will notice. MAGNUM: I just wanna say I loved our secret alliance. It was hot and cold, but I honestly respect the sh*t out of you for how you handled yourself in the game when it came to me. I knew people wanted to use me against you, and probably you against me, but midway through the game we started our own thing and just worked together, after a few rounds of trying to make up with each other or recovering from nominations. I think we are very alike sometimes, and that certainly worked to our benefit. Despite targeting you and being targeted by you a few times, I never truly felt like we were against each other. Although I talked to you perhaps the least out of anyone in the F8, I feel like I really got to know your game, and you and I probably had the realest talks out of everyone – substantive game talks full of truth bombs and realness. Your social game was on point and I’m glad I got to be a part of it. I might not have said it in my confessional, but I definitely wish we were playing *together* more than we were. I loved your independent thinking and your willingness to stick to your guns and just do what you wanted to do. You certainly had to make a lot of decisions to guide your path to the end, so this leads me to my question for you. I would like you to explain to me how Briq convinced you or had a say in your nominations, eviction votes, or other important decisions. That’s it you guys! And yes, I will be your friend after this, thanks for asking. You're right, the statements that I claimed were not 100% factual, instead were merely hyperbolic statements. I actually changed my speech when I saw the rules Dewie posted. I freaked out because I couldnt have a casual conversation with the jurors to explain my game and my game is not easy to understand. My game has levels to it and I was going to break it down slowly to explain all of the things I did in this game. I ended up putting bold hyperbolic statements in my speech to prove that I did play the game and I wasnt a goat of some sort because it can be interpreted as such. I was just to eager show how I played the game. So I'm not going to try and even explain these hyperbolic statements because thats impossible. I didnt meant to come off as some cocky jerk who thinks he had the game in his back pocket who also could apparently read minds. I also assumed that if people read my blanket statements it was more of some sort of an expression and not literal meaning. Some of the moves that I helped influenced, that others probably did as well so it wasnt 100% percent me, was week 3 your first HOH. You wanted YM and magnum but I remember telling you that kaitlyn should go up instead of magnum and you agreed. I think multiple people told you this and I assumed it was from the SMDRQ alliance since mags and YM were in it. Week 7 you put up alad and magnum, dont know who you wanted out but I was going to vote out alad regardless of your choice. Dont know why you kept me over jhon when I knew you guys had a final 3 and I think you kept me over vova because I told you I'd take you to the final 2. Dont know why you made those decisions but to say I didnt influence any of that would be a bit misleading. |
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Post by Magnum on Jun 5, 2015 2:41:08 GMT -5
Hi guys, you made it to the end. Congrats! This is the F3 I wanted, so I guess I'm pleased, even though I wish I was sitting there instead of you. I had a lot of fun playing with both of you in different capacities. This truly was a very fun game and y'all were a part of my experience so just know that y'all cool! However, we have serious business to get to so put on your serious faces. No smiles. MAGNUM: I just wanna say I loved our secret alliance. It was hot and cold, but I honestly respect the sh*t out of you for how you handled yourself in the game when it came to me. I knew people wanted to use me against you, and probably you against me, but midway through the game we started our own thing and just worked together, after a few rounds of trying to make up with each other or recovering from nominations. I think we are very alike sometimes, and that certainly worked to our benefit. Despite targeting you and being targeted by you a few times, I never truly felt like we were against each other. Although I talked to you perhaps the least out of anyone in the F8, I feel like I really got to know your game, and you and I probably had the realest talks out of everyone – substantive game talks full of truth bombs and realness. Your social game was on point and I’m glad I got to be a part of it. I might not have said it in my confessional, but I definitely wish we were playing *together* more than we were. I loved your independent thinking and your willingness to stick to your guns and just do what you wanted to do. You certainly had to make a lot of decisions to guide your path to the end, so this leads me to my question for you. I would like you to explain to me how Briq convinced you or had a say in your nominations, eviction votes, or other important decisions. That’s it you guys! And yes, I will be your friend after this, thanks for asking. Appreciate the compliments. You were definitely one of the realest/straight forward in the game too, which is why I had no issue discussing the game with you even after we both put each other up. I guess I gotta be careful here since I can't respond directly to what Briq said. Ultimately, Briq had zero say in my nominations in any of my HOH runs. Never talked me into voting a certain way either, other than maybe the Final vote. And it was not his brilliant persuasion that swayed me there. It was the information that Briq and Vova's votes would be up in the air against you because of your alliance with them. The week he told me to put him up against you (Final 4), I had already pretty much made that decision. I think I had already told Vova he was good by that point. He didn't talk me into anything there. Every move I made, I made 100% for myself. He told me to talk to Alex, that's about it. This was before POV btw, I was 100% focused on winning POV (for some reason I thought I stood a chance). I did not need anyone to tell me to make a play to come off the block after I lost POV, that was the obvious move. He did not tell me what to say to Alex either, I had already made my pitch before Briq suggested for me to say exactly what I had already said. Briq helped me in the game by feeding me/the alliance information about Alex and James, who he had a fake alliance with. Outside of that, he didn't influence any decisions I made much at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 13:15:10 GMT -5
Hey f*ckers.
First off congratulations on making the final 2, you both probably deserve it in some way. Then again Lizzie would also deserve it because she'd be the Goatiest of Goats. Also, f*ck you both.
Anyways. I don't really have much else to add because apparently no one on this site sleeps and they all posted their stuff while I was asleep.
Briq: Why would you lie to me? I think it's pretty obvious you were going to flip on me from the start of that week. That's ok, I'm not really upset about that. I just don't understand why you wouldn't be upfront with me like I asked. And then lie again by telling me you were "planning on taking it to the end". L0L. Gimme a break boss. I'm not a bitter juror so it's not gonna be a factor in my vote but I'm just curious why you felt the need after I asked you as a friend to be honest with me and told you it wouldn't cause a reaction.
Mags: Damn dude. I honestly thought you'd be the 3rd person out. Would have been if I had my way but that's just a pipe dream at this point. You played a great game from what I can tell, but that's mostly the fangirling of John on your play. Regardless, word on the street is your alliance thought I was "a snake" and "shady and untrustworthy". I'm just curious where that came from, and why I (someone who was true to one alliance the entire game and never broke any deals) is more shady than someone like say, Briq or Cole who are trying to make deals everywhere and throwing information around like candy?
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Post by Magnum on Jun 5, 2015 14:56:57 GMT -5
Hey f*ckers. First off congratulations on making the final 2, you both probably deserve it in some way. Then again Lizzie would also deserve it because she'd be the Goatiest of Goats. Also, f*ck you both. Anyways. I don't really have much else to add because apparently no one on this site sleeps and they all posted their stuff while I was asleep. Briq: Why would you lie to me? I think it's pretty obvious you were going to flip on me from the start of that week. That's ok, I'm not really upset about that. I just don't understand why you wouldn't be upfront with me like I asked. And then lie again by telling me you were "planning on taking it to the end". L0L. Gimme a break boss. I'm not a bitter juror so it's not gonna be a factor in my vote but I'm just curious why you felt the need after I asked you as a friend to be honest with me and told you it wouldn't cause a reaction. Mags: Damn dude. I honestly thought you'd be the 3rd person out. Would have been if I had my way but that's just a pipe dream at this point. You played a great game from what I can tell, but that's mostly the fangirling of John on your play. Regardless, word on the street is your alliance thought I was "a snake" and "shady and untrustworthy". I'm just curious where that came from, and why I (someone who was true to one alliance the entire game and never broke any deals) is more shady than someone like say, Briq or Cole who are trying to make deals everywhere and throwing information around like candy? I can only speak for myself, but it wasn't really necessarily that I thought you were shady, I just didn't think I could work with you after you were told I was gonna backdoor you in week 2 (which wasn't my plan btw, I wanted nominations to stay the same). With everyone else I'm not really sure, might have come from previous games I guess. The reason I trusted Briq and Cole more than you was because I was working with them from the start, and for the most part I knew about their other alliances. After week 2, I was pretty sure I would be one of your targets for the rest of the game so we didn't have much of a working relationship from that point on. |
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 5, 2015 18:27:00 GMT -5
Hey f*ckers. First off congratulations on making the final 2, you both probably deserve it in some way. Then again Lizzie would also deserve it because she'd be the Goatiest of Goats. Also, f*ck you both. Anyways. I don't really have much else to add because apparently no one on this site sleeps and they all posted their stuff while I was asleep. Briq: Why would you lie to me? I think it's pretty obvious you were going to flip on me from the start of that week. That's ok, I'm not really upset about that. I just don't understand why you wouldn't be upfront with me like I asked. And then lie again by telling me you were "planning on taking it to the end". L0L. Gimme a break boss. I'm not a bitter juror so it's not gonna be a factor in my vote but I'm just curious why you felt the need after I asked you as a friend to be honest with me and told you it wouldn't cause a reaction. Mags: Damn dude. I honestly thought you'd be the 3rd person out. Would have been if I had my way but that's just a pipe dream at this point. You played a great game from what I can tell, but that's mostly the fangirling of John on your play. Regardless, word on the street is your alliance thought I was "a snake" and "shady and untrustworthy". I'm just curious where that came from, and why I (someone who was true to one alliance the entire game and never broke any deals) is more shady than someone like say, Briq or Cole who are trying to make deals everywhere and throwing information around like candy? No thats not the case at all. I truly wanted to work with you this game and you'll even see in my DRs that after jhon, you and vova were my closest allies. The problem was you and jhon never trusted each other. I gave jhon my word before anyone else that I'd take him to the final 2 if possible. I lied that I would take you to the final 2 if the the final 3 was me you and jhon but with anyone else, besides vova maybe, I would have taken you. I never intended to flip on you the week you left. Vova and I were going to flip the vote and vote out phil but phil came to me and said he had DPOV and wanted to put up magnum. I thought hard about this and it was definitely the hardest decision I made in this game but it came down to who was going to take out phil for me? If magnum was gone, I was afraid of going to the final 3 with you and phil because I'd think phil would take you over me. So when Cole put up alad, I had to vote you out because phil was no longer on the block and I needed him with no strong allies. It was literally worse case scenario, I wouldnt vote you out over anyone else besides maybe vova, jhon, and in this circumstance alad. Remember the week when magnum put up Alex and ricardo and you were in that veto? Me and you strategized to make sure alex and ricardo threw the comp so that you can win and take off alex. I was afraid if one of them won veto, you were going up because everyone in smdrq alliance wanted to vote you out. I went behind their back and came with that strategy to present to the tonga-bremuda PM to mostly keep you in the game. Til this day, no one, even vova and jhon didnt know I did this. I had your back dude and if you still dont believe me, I'm sorry but I dont know what else to say. |
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Post by Jacob on Jun 5, 2015 23:54:27 GMT -5
Hi the most irrelevant juror is here!!!! I don't really have anything to ask because I wasn't here long enough to do anything important AND i suck at coming up with questions, so I'll just make a statement I guess. Magnum: I enjoyed the brief time we actually got to talk after I won the veto haha, I know it wasn't much but still. Maybe if you had stayed on the block that week I would've done better long term, but eh I don't regret my choices. We started on a rough patch in this game with you nomming me and then me nomming you, but I'm glad we ended on good terms and I hope we run into each other again or something Briq: You won Survivor too ya??? I always get that mixed up for some reason. Anyways, I feel like we're kindred spirits because of that, so I like you. I just enjoyed playing with you in whatever limited capacity we had lmao, clearly you knew what you were doing more than I did. Plus you were like the only one to message me after my eviction apologizing lmao, I appreciated that a lot. So yeah I like this f2 a lot  TBH from my personal standpoint the f3 was perf<3 (I would've voted for Phil if he was here tho IDK I just got good vibes from that guy, he's solid) From a game standpoint I wasn't rly smart enough to know BUT i think it all worked out Next time I'm in a game with any of you ppl I expect to be invited to the cool alliances thx bai luv u all GL FINAL 2 MAY THE BEST HOUSEGUEST WIN XO |
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Post by Magnum on Jun 6, 2015 0:35:41 GMT -5
Hi the most irrelevant juror is here!!!! I don't really have anything to ask because I wasn't here long enough to do anything important AND i suck at coming up with questions, so I'll just make a statement I guess. Magnum: I enjoyed the brief time we actually got to talk after I won the veto haha, I know it wasn't much but still. Maybe if you had stayed on the block that week I would've done better long term, but eh I don't regret my choices. We started on a rough patch in this game with you nomming me and then me nomming you, but I'm glad we ended on good terms and I hope we run into each other again or something Briq: You won Survivor too ya??? I always get that mixed up for some reason. Anyways, I feel like we're kindred spirits because of that, so I like you. I just enjoyed playing with you in whatever limited capacity we had lmao, clearly you knew what you were doing more than I did. Plus you were like the only one to message me after my eviction apologizing lmao, I appreciated that a lot. So yeah I like this f2 a lot TBH from my personal standpoint the f3 was perf<3 (I would've voted for Phil if he was here tho IDK I just got good vibes from that guy, he's solid) From a game standpoint I wasn't rly smart enough to know BUT i think it all worked out Next time I'm in a game with any of you ppl I expect to be invited to the cool alliances thx bai luv u all GL FINAL 2 MAY THE BEST HOUSEGUEST WIN XO Thanks, man. I enjoyed that conversation too haha. It was really cool that you were even willing to hear me out after I just nominated you the previous week. Made me kinda regret going after you instead of trying to work something out during my HOH run, although you were a pretty big target right away, so I'm not sure if it would've made a difference in the long run. |
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Post by briqsquad on Jun 6, 2015 0:40:43 GMT -5
Hi the most irrelevant juror is here!!!! I don't really have anything to ask because I wasn't here long enough to do anything important AND i suck at coming up with questions, so I'll just make a statement I guess. Magnum: I enjoyed the brief time we actually got to talk after I won the veto haha, I know it wasn't much but still. Maybe if you had stayed on the block that week I would've done better long term, but eh I don't regret my choices. We started on a rough patch in this game with you nomming me and then me nomming you, but I'm glad we ended on good terms and I hope we run into each other again or something Briq: You won Survivor too ya??? I always get that mixed up for some reason. Anyways, I feel like we're kindred spirits because of that, so I like you. I just enjoyed playing with you in whatever limited capacity we had lmao, clearly you knew what you were doing more than I did. Plus you were like the only one to message me after my eviction apologizing lmao, I appreciated that a lot. So yeah I like this f2 a lot TBH from my personal standpoint the f3 was perf<3 (I would've voted for Phil if he was here tho IDK I just got good vibes from that guy, he's solid) From a game standpoint I wasn't rly smart enough to know BUT i think it all worked out Next time I'm in a game with any of you ppl I expect to be invited to the cool alliances thx bai luv u all GL FINAL 2 MAY THE BEST HOUSEGUEST WIN XO Thanks dude, it was fun working with you and if Ricardo came to me with the alliance a little bit earlier, the game could have been different. Never intended to blindside you because it wasnt a necessary game move since there wasnt much you could do about that situation and it was also risky jury management. I was going to tell you originally but Dewie/kenny announced it quickly so it was the least I could do for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 12:15:46 GMT -5
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TBH from my personal standpoint the f3 was perf<3 (I would've voted for Phil if he was here tho IDK I just got good vibes from that guy, he's solid) From a game standpoint I wasn't rly smart enough to know BUT i think it all worked out 