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Post by briqsquad on Sept 17, 2015 19:43:42 GMT -5
If Vanessa wins, I need to see bb4 and determine who the best bb female player is. Vanessa is probably the best strategical female of all time The way y'all go in on her and her game I'm surprised she's even being considered for this Her end game has been pretty good, dont know about jury management tho. If she somehow gets the votes then thats impressive. Shes basically pulling a Dan bb14 |
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 17, 2015 19:43:57 GMT -5
Ew. No she's not. I take account of the entire game, not just the jury phase. She did sh*t all before jury que? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 19:49:42 GMT -5
Ew. No she's not. I take account of the entire game, not just the jury phase. She did sh*t all before jury que? Sí señor. She did terrible pre jury. And actually up until Beckys eviction. She bullied and cried. Steve said it best at the final 4 "You just won veto, why are YOU crying?" |
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 17, 2015 19:53:04 GMT -5
Sí señor. She did terrible pre jury. And actually up until Beckys eviction. She bullied and cried. Steve said it best at the final 4 "You just won veto, why are YOU crying?" As far as I'm concerned she had a say in a lot of those evictions. She was also outnumbered the first couple of weeks until she got in with shellie clay liz and Austin and won comps. The people who left pre jury are not voting so it doesnt matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 19:59:50 GMT -5
Your argument claims she had the best gameplay ever. Now instead of nit picking you should generalize her entire gameplay as a whole.
Adding in that jury phase only counts is asinine
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 20:13:04 GMT -5
Like Austin said I think Vanessa played a very flawed game. Also Austin and Shelli were both strategic minds within their alliance so I think that should be looked at as well when we are ranking her gameplay.
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Post by violet vova on Sept 17, 2015 20:14:50 GMT -5
im just still surprised as to how vanessa manipulates people into throwing a comp.
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 17, 2015 20:17:26 GMT -5
Your argument claims she had the best gameplay ever. Now instead of nit picking you should generalize her entire gameplay as a whole. Adding in that jury phase only counts is asinine I never said she had the greatest gameplay ever? When she convinced julia to pick austin, she spun the twins hatred toward austin LOL. Austin was even begging for forgiveness haha. Shes been doing this all season. People end up feeling sorry for her instead of getting angry at it. If she owned her game, then you guys would see it. She also convinced Steve to throw the final 4 POV and just convinced liz to throw the first HOH. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 20:17:16 GMT -5
im just still surprised as to how vanessa manipulates people into throwing a comp. Steve has mother issues and then you have Liz and Julia who are very naive lol |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 20:19:33 GMT -5
Your argument claims she had the best gameplay ever. Now instead of nit picking you should generalize her entire gameplay as a whole. Adding in that jury phase only counts is asinine I never said she had the greatest gameplay ever? When she convinced julia to pick austin, she spun the twins hatred toward austin LOL. Austin was even begging for forgiveness haha. Shes been doing this all season. People end up feeling sorry for her instead of getting angry at it. If she owned her game, then you guys would see it. She also convinced Steve to throw the final 4 POV and just convinced liz to throw the first HOH. Didn't Austin say in his confessional that he only did that to play nice with Vanessa because he needed her to think everything was good for next week? |
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Post by briqsquad on Sept 17, 2015 20:26:40 GMT -5
I never said she had the greatest gameplay ever? When she convinced julia to pick austin, she spun the twins hatred toward austin LOL. Austin was even begging for forgiveness haha. Shes been doing this all season. People end up feeling sorry for her instead of getting angry at it. If she owned her game, then you guys would see it. She also convinced Steve to throw the final 4 POV and just convinced liz to throw the first HOH. Didn't Austin say in his confessional that he only did that to play nice with Vanessa because he needed her to think everything was good for next week? Did he? I couldve missed that part. I mean saying vanessa is one of the best female players is not an understatement. It's not like I said shes the best female survivor player or anything haha |
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Post by Jgrubl on Sept 17, 2015 20:35:13 GMT -5
I don't get how she played a flawed game? Yeah she was over paranoid which is basically the exact opposite of Derrick but that shouldn't diminish her game. Everyone knew she was a big target and strategic player but she's in the final 3. She aligned herself with other big targets and deflected the heat right off of herself when it was put on her to make people feel sorry for her. People say they didn't trust her yet the very next sec they were making deals with her. When she did find herself in trouble (which Derrick never did) she immediately found away to put the target on someone else. I mean she was dead in the water against Shelli then somehow got them to evict her. Imo she's def top 5 females
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 20:39:45 GMT -5
I agree than Briq, if she OWNED her game instead of lying to us in the Diary Rooms like we can't see her on the feeds and what she actually does, then maybe I would prospect her as a possible top female strategist
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 20:50:16 GMT -5
Sybil has a lot of screws loose and I f*cking hate her... but I can't deny she's played a good game. Also like... I'm still confused why nobody thinks Steve deserves the W
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Post by Jgrubl on Sept 17, 2015 20:59:41 GMT -5
Sybil has a lot of screws loose and I f*cking hate her... but I can't deny she's played a good game. Also like... I'm still confused why nobody thinks Steve deserves the W I think he does. He has what 4 hoh wins? Plus he's been studying for the final part of the hoh while the other two have been sleeping. |
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Post by Nate on Sept 17, 2015 21:00:51 GMT -5
If Vanessa wins, I need to see bb4 and determine who the best bb female player is. Vanessa is probably the best strategical female of all time LMAO IM CRYING |
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Post by Coke on Sept 17, 2015 21:05:27 GMT -5
If she wins, I can see Vanessa going down as one of the most flawed winners ever. At this point, she deserves it. But the way she played the game 9 times out of ten will not work. Jun is by far the better winner of the two. I think Maggie is above Vanessa too.
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Post by Jhonmarco on Sept 17, 2015 21:08:37 GMT -5
If she wins, I can see Vanessa going down as one of the most flawed winners ever. At this point, she deserves it. But the way she played the game 9 times out of ten will not work. Jun is by far the better winner of the two. I think Maggie is above Vanessa too. A top female players would be something cool to rank tbh. On top of those mentioned, you got Danielle Reyes, Neda, Diane, etc. |
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Post by violet vova on Sept 17, 2015 21:13:37 GMT -5
my gf janelle
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 21:23:23 GMT -5
I don't get how she played a flawed game? Yeah she was over paranoid which is basically the exact opposite of Derrick but that shouldn't diminish her game. Everyone knew she was a big target and strategic player but she's in the final 3. She aligned herself with other big targets and deflected the heat right off of herself when it was put on her to make people feel sorry for her. People say they didn't trust her yet the very next sec they were making deals with her. When she did find herself in trouble (which Derrick never did) she immediately found away to put the target on someone else. I mean she was dead in the water against Shelli then somehow got them to evict her. Imo she's def top 5 females I'm not even going to get into everything that she did wrong this season but... 1. Week 1 she cried all night and secluded herself from everyone in the house. 2. She made an 8 person alliance to get rid of Austin but then decided to go back on that deal. 3. Her jury management has been terrible. She had a rocky relationship with Shelli her last two weeks in the house, she backstabbed Jackie, Becky just hates her, James hates her as well, Meg probably hates her for how she left, Austin already said she isn't getting his vote, and Johnny Mac has always disliked her lol. If Vanessa takes Liz to the final 2 then she's breaking another deal with Steve and she loses Austin and Julia's votes. If Vanessa takes Steve to the final 2 then she loses 3 votes for backstabbing Liz lol. Oh and they did the bold part on their own. They already thought it was better to keep Vanessa around so that Vanessa and Becky go at it while they sit back and watch. |
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