Stan
Fresh Meat
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Post by Stan on Dec 19, 2019 3:51:50 GMT -5
All those losses and yet he’s still won 6 times
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Post by pepper on Dec 19, 2019 19:22:49 GMT -5
All those losses and yet he’s still won 6 times I mean he’s had 19 stabs at it... Landon is 3 for 4, Jordan is 3 for 5, Darrell is 4 for 8, Derrick is 3 for 10. Give them 19 tries and not a single doubt in my mind, the outcomes would be better. Plus, wins don’t mean much in terms of competition statistics and abilities. Wins would hold weight if we talking greatest players all time, because accolades is one of the most important criteria in that subject matter. But if we speaking competitors, Johnny’s 6 wins doesn’t give him any extra value. All it says is he an elite finals competitor, but in no way does it defend his atrocious elimination record and performances.
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Stan
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Post by Stan on Dec 19, 2019 20:34:09 GMT -5
All those losses and yet he’s still won 6 times I mean he’s had 19 stabs at it... Landon is 3 for 4, Jordan is 3 for 5, Darrell is 4 for 8, Derrick is 3 for 10. Give them 19 tries and not a single doubt in my mind, the outcomes would be better. Plus, wins don’t mean much in terms of competition statistics and abilities. Wins would hold weight if we talking greatest players all time, because accolades is one of the most important criteria in that subject matter. But if we speaking competitors, Johnny’s 6 wins doesn’t give him any extra value. All it says is he an elite finals competitor, but in no way does it defend his atrocious elimination record and performances. okay fine- what is impressive is his 6 wins in 8 final appearances.
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Post by pepper on Dec 19, 2019 20:55:21 GMT -5
I mean he’s had 19 stabs at it... Landon is 3 for 4, Jordan is 3 for 5, Darrell is 4 for 8, Derrick is 3 for 10. Give them 19 tries and not a single doubt in my mind, the outcomes would be better. Plus, wins don’t mean much in terms of competition statistics and abilities. Wins would hold weight if we talking greatest players all time, because accolades is one of the most important criteria in that subject matter. But if we speaking competitors, Johnny’s 6 wins doesn’t give him any extra value. All it says is he an elite finals competitor, but in no way does it defend his atrocious elimination record and performances. okay fine- what is impressive is his 6 wins in 8 final appearances. Yeah, I’m not knocking him down on that. What is most impressive about his finals resume is that he’s 4 for 5 in individuals and pairs finales (aka the type of finals in which he has more room to lead and control his own destiny). The only time he ever lost a pairs/individual final was Rivals II since he had came out of shape that season and wasn’t regularly conditioning himself in the off-season prior. I think I’d take Johnny in a final over anyone not named Landon, Kenny, Jordan, or Darrell. Shoot, I’d actually take him over Darrell in an individual final because of swimming and puzzles (which Darrell really struggles in). Only way I’m taking Darrell over Johnny in a final is if it teams or if Darrell is paired up with a puzzle wiz, like he was paired with Aviv for example.
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Post by briqsquad on Dec 19, 2019 22:17:41 GMT -5
Is Darrell a bad swimmer?
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Post by Donald on Dec 20, 2019 0:47:12 GMT -5
no
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Post by pepper on Dec 20, 2019 2:23:06 GMT -5
I thought it was common knowledge Darrell wasn’t that good of a swimmer. Maybe I’m remembering wrong?
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Post by Brooke on Dec 20, 2019 13:33:47 GMT -5
I thought it was common knowledge Darrell wasn’t that good of a swimmer. Maybe I’m remembering wrong? He used to make quotes about how he was scared of heights, I think.
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Post by pepper on Dec 20, 2019 17:38:44 GMT -5
Even if Darrell still isn’t bad at swimming, I’m still taking Johnny over him. Darrell would’ve been dead last in the Fresh Meat finale, if it was an individual final.
Darrell’s one of my favorite competitors ever, but a final consists of a lot of logical decision making/critical thinking/puzzles. Darrell’s not too bright when it comes to things like that. Guys like Bananas, Jordan, Landon, and even Kenny are (he’s proved this in the Rivals final, which is arguably the best finale performance of all time - even better than Landon’s FMII).
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Post by briqsquad on Dec 20, 2019 22:08:06 GMT -5
Depends on what final tbh. Like the rivals final, I'm taking darrell over anyone. Those were just checkpoints and not puzzles but like rivals 2 final, he wouldnt finish
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Post by pepper on Dec 21, 2019 14:39:28 GMT -5
So you guys aren’t gonna post a top 10? :the thinker:
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Stan
Fresh Meat
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Post by Stan on Dec 21, 2019 15:03:43 GMT -5
I’m rewatching some shows first
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Post by briqsquad on Dec 23, 2019 1:01:15 GMT -5
1. CT 2. Landon 3. Theo V 4. Dan S 5. Mark Long 6. Evan 7. Jordan 8. Derrick 9. Miz 10. Abram
Jordan's mission stats def the weakest out of the group. Jordan never clearly dominated or was the best performer on a season of the challenge like any of the Top 10 tbh. That's the best way to see their consistency as a competitor.
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Post by Bryan on Dec 23, 2019 9:02:26 GMT -5
Plz explain Evan cause I ain’t seeing it
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Post by Donald on Dec 23, 2019 12:00:22 GMT -5
Plz explain Evan cause I ain’t seeing it Fresh Meat Duel 1 Duel 2
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Post by Bryan on Dec 23, 2019 12:05:13 GMT -5
Plz explain Evan cause I ain’t seeing it Fresh Meat Duel 1 Duel 2 Duel 2 he got lucky. That was Mark and Landon’s season
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Post by briqsquad on Dec 23, 2019 17:52:48 GMT -5
Ruins and G3 he was really good also
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Stan
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Post by Stan on Dec 23, 2019 18:04:37 GMT -5
Every season, besides rivals 1, Evan was a better than average competitor easily
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Post by Bryan on Dec 23, 2019 22:35:39 GMT -5
Idk IMO he good but he not number six.
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Post by pepper on Jan 1, 2020 19:53:53 GMT -5
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