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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 21:47:00 GMT -5
Started? She made comments about Will hoarding food TO Jenn and others not named Will and then he blantalty confronted her with a ton of personal attacks. Why should she take responsibility for Will being terrible? exactly. She started it I have no idea how you came to that conclusion but ok.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 21:48:42 GMT -5
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion but ok. "she made comments to Jenn and others saying will was hoarding food" Seems like she started a pot stir in my eyes. If I'm someone who shares my food then gets blamed that I'm hiding my food, especially on survivor where food is scarce, then I would be a little upset too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 21:49:09 GMT -5
Why bring it up as if the people on here said it? Lol When did I say people on here did? I said he's hailed as a great player by the general public when he isn't at all and Shirin gets a lot more SH*T, especially after this recent episode. "Yeah because Spencer was just like Shirin in this episode. He also gets hailed as a good to great player which lol. Shirin gets massive heat for Nate thinking she's inventive."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 21:49:55 GMT -5
Jhon when you defend your argument you can't bring up things we didn't even say
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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 22:00:12 GMT -5
When did I say people on here did? I said he's hailed as a great player by the general public when he isn't at all and Shirin gets a lot more SH*T, especially after this recent episode. "Yeah because Spencer was just like Shirin in this episode. He also gets hailed as a good to great player which lol. Shirin gets massive heat for Nate thinking she's inventive." Where does this show me saying I said people on here said he's a great player?
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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 22:01:21 GMT -5
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion but ok. "she made comments to Jenn and others saying will was hoarding food" Seems like she started a pot stir in my eyes. If I'm someone who shares my food then gets blamed that I'm hiding my food, especially on survivor where food is scarce, then I would be a little upset too. That's not starting an argument, idk why that's hard to believe or grasp. Nothing wrong with getting a little upset, but that's not what Will did at all.
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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 22:01:36 GMT -5
Jhon when you defend your argument you can't bring up things we didn't even say Such as?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 22:04:52 GMT -5
Jhon when you defend your argument you can't bring up things we didn't even say Such as? "He was voted in rhap last year in a top 20 players list. Think you should have done your research before thinking people make things ups about players." You're generalizing those votes and myself and Kenny together like we knew that. We never included those votes nor are we hailing spencer as a great player like you previously said. All of this is implying that we actually said it when we actually didn't. So that's why I said you are putting words in our mouths
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 22:06:30 GMT -5
"she made comments to Jenn and others saying will was hoarding food" Seems like she started a pot stir in my eyes. If I'm someone who shares my food then gets blamed that I'm hiding my food, especially on survivor where food is scarce, then I would be a little upset too. That's not starting an argument, idk why that's hard to believe or grasp. Nothing wrong with getting a little upset, but that's not what Will did at all. Let's get off the topic of survivor for a minute and let's make a scenario. Jhon is strolling through the streets and calls a random person an insult about their mother Said random person beats jhon up Jhon claims he was no where in the wrong. Is jhon right that the entire situation was not his fault in any way?
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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 22:08:34 GMT -5
"He was voted in rhap last year in a top 20 players list. Think you should have done your research before thinking people make things ups about players." You're generalizing those votes and myself and Kenny together like we knew that. We never included those votes nor are we hailing spencer as a great player like you previously said. All of this is implying that we actually said it when we actually didn't. So that's why I said you are putting words in our mouths Kenny asked me who thinks Spencer is great and that post was my response to it, I didn't generalize anyone. If Kenny didn't know about those votes he shouldn't have said I'm making things up in my head when there's evidence of it. That's why you're wrong.
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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 22:10:37 GMT -5
That's not starting an argument, idk why that's hard to believe or grasp. Nothing wrong with getting a little upset, but that's not what Will did at all. Let's get off the topic of survivor for a minute and let's make a scenario. Jhon is strolling through the streets and calls a random person an insult about their mother Said random person beats jhon up Jhon claims he was no where in the wrong. Is jhon right that the entire situation was not his fault in any way? Yeah once again this isn't comparable to Shirin/Will. Shirin suspected Will of hoarding food and mentioned it to people not named Will and Will found out Shirin did this and thought it was fair play to attack her and only her when someone else did the same.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 22:12:28 GMT -5
Let's get off the topic of survivor for a minute and let's make a scenario. Jhon is strolling through the streets and calls a random person an insult about their mother Said random person beats jhon up Jhon claims he was no where in the wrong. Is jhon right that the entire situation was not his fault in any way? Yeah once again this isn't comparable to Shirin/Will. Shirin suspected Will of hoarding food and mentioned it to people not named Will and Will found out Shirin did this and thought it was fair play to attack her and only her when someone else did the same. You didn't read what I said. I said this isn't survivor talk in this scenario. Read better
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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 22:19:40 GMT -5
Yeah once again this isn't comparable to Shirin/Will. Shirin suspected Will of hoarding food and mentioned it to people not named Will and Will found out Shirin did this and thought it was fair play to attack her and only her when someone else did the same. You didn't read what I said. I said this isn't survivor talk in this scenario. Read better I know how to read perfectly fine, thanks. It's easy to tell what you're getting at and is just not the same.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 22:24:27 GMT -5
"Yeah because Spencer was just like Shirin in this episode. He also gets hailed as a good to great player which lol. Shirin gets massive heat for Nate thinking she's inventive." Where does this show me saying I said people on here said he's a great player? You definitely left it open for us to think that and your last sentence implies that you're talking about people on here. Again why bring it up if you aren't talkimg about people on here?
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Post by Jhonmarco on Oct 1, 2015 22:28:35 GMT -5
Where does this show me saying I said people on here said he's a great player? You definitely left it open for us to think that and your last sentence implies that you're talking about people on here. Again why bring it up if you aren't talkimg about people on here? It could have been implied, true, but I brought it up because it's something that happens a lot in the survivor community and it's annoying and wanted to bring it up.
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Post by Nate on Oct 2, 2015 6:46:34 GMT -5
Shirin had good ideas in WA, but she was never able to implement them. She's not some wicked awesome strategist, but she has potential. I think socially, she's better than a SH*T ton of the gamebots we've seen on this show. Her social game is decent at best. Which gamebots have a worse social game then her? Shirin's awarness is awful af. Pulling a jhonmarco here but I heardoff camera she was trying to go after varner... WTF varner? He is super well connected like who's going to all of sudden turn on him? That couldve been the reason why she got the boot instead of spencer. Shirins adaptability is also really poor. It is the reason she got the boot according to her. And she targeted him because he was flipping to the other side and wanted to get out Spencer, her closest ally, next. She wasn't just like hehe let's get out Varner because I want make a big move.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 11:54:18 GMT -5
Jeff is doing great so far. He's definitely playing the game well. But I do see him overplaying and then getting voted out because of that.
Abi..Eh still not feeling her.
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Post by briqsquad on Oct 2, 2015 15:14:47 GMT -5
Her social game is decent at best. Which gamebots have a worse social game then her? Shirin's awarness is awful af. Pulling a jhonmarco here but I heardoff camera she was trying to go after varner... WTF varner? He is super well connected like who's going to all of sudden turn on him? That couldve been the reason why she got the boot instead of spencer. Shirins adaptability is also really poor. It is the reason she got the boot according to her. And she targeted him because he was flipping to the other side and wanted to get out Spencer, her closest ally, next. She wasn't just like hehe let's get out Varner because I want make a big move. I know but she should have realizes that targeting varner was dumb. She should have targeted someone else not named Varner. Just shows that her awarness sucks. I'm pretty sure spencer wouldve been gone if it werent for that move which could have bought her a couple of days.
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Post by Jgrubl on Oct 3, 2015 15:19:36 GMT -5
I'm with Stan 100%. How can you say Shirin wasn't at fault any for what happened? She had no proof or reason to say Will was hoarding food because nothing showed he was. And yet she made a scene about it instead of asking Will first. Things like this get people voted off in Survivor so I can see why Will blew up. Was what he said right? No! But half of the blame goes to Shirin.
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Post by Nate on Oct 4, 2015 2:44:49 GMT -5
This is like the time people thought girls who dress slutty deserve half the blame if they're harassed or assaulted.
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